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Cocaine Production #925660
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How much cocaine is produced each year? You think its more than 2000 tons?
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There is too much coke on the market here you can buy it anywhere 7 days of the week.

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no more than 700 tons each year
Re: Cocaine Production [Re: doggystyle] #925684
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I think why nothing oc group tried to grow the coke plant in Golden triangle in South East Asia ?
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Originally Posted By: m2w
no more than 700 tons each year


Colombia broke records this year with producing 700 something tons. So if you add upp with the other countries i think its little bit more
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Im curious of how much the big shots make on coke.

Im talking about Ndrangheta,Sinaloa,Urabenos.


Say there is 2000 tons produced each year, and thats probably to much to assume. According to media Ndrangheta controls 40 procent of it, thats 800 tons. They make about 10k profit from each K after transportation and all, thats 10 mill a ton. 800 tons = 8 billions..Lets play with it and say they make 20k a key, thats 16 billion.. Its still not the 27 billion dollars the medias estimate.
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Originally Posted By: doggystyle
Im curious of how much the big shots make on coke.

Im talking about Ndrangheta,Sinaloa,Urabenos.


Say there is 2000 tons produced each year, and thats probably to much to assume. According to media Ndrangheta controls 40 procent of it, thats 800 tons. They make about 10k profit from each K after transportation and all, thats 10 mill a ton. 800 tons = 8 billions..Lets play with it and say they make 20k a key, thats 16 billion.. Its still not the 27 billion dollars the medias estimate.


http://www.france24.com/en/20130517-en-r...cking-france-24

The ndrangheta had the 80 percent monopoly on European imports of the cocaine and where don't distribut it the ndrangheta are middle level supplier for most of the oc gruops in Canada and US.
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Is it possible to cultivate the coca plant in (parts of) Africa?

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Re: Cocaine Production [Re: furio_from_naples] #925691
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: doggystyle
Im curious of how much the big shots make on coke.

Im talking about Ndrangheta,Sinaloa,Urabenos.


Say there is 2000 tons produced each year, and thats probably to much to assume. According to media Ndrangheta controls 40 procent of it, thats 800 tons. They make about 10k profit from each K after transportation and all, thats 10 mill a ton. 800 tons = 8 billions..Lets play with it and say they make 20k a key, thats 16 billion.. Its still not the 27 billion dollars the medias estimate.


http://www.france24.com/en/20130517-en-r...cking-france-24

The ndrangheta had the 80 percent monopoly on European imports of the cocaine and where don't distribut it the ndrangheta are middle level supplier for most of the oc gruops in Canada and US.



80 percent of European and 40 percent of the Global trade, they say.

But it still wont add up to 27 billions a year just out of drug trafficking.
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I dont know about africa and other countries but Roberto Saviano said that Kosovo might be the new Colombia they are looking for ways to grow the coca plant in Kosovo. I dont know how its possible but thats what he said.. maybe he is referring to synthetic cocaine, thats a big thing amongst Albanians.


http://serbianna.com/news/archives/1161

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Originally Posted By: doggystyle
I dont know about africa and other countries but Roberto Saviano said that Kosovo might be the new Colombia they are looking for ways to grow the coca plant in Kosovo. I dont know how its possible but thats what he said.. maybe he is referring to synthetic cocaine, thats a big thing amongst Albanians.
http://serbianna.com/news/archives/1161


I think that refer to synth coke because for made a kilo of cocaine need a large quantity of plants and in South America there are large parts where grow coke plants without risk from the police,in Kosovo the situation is different.

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Re: Cocaine Production [Re: doggystyle] #925711
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Sinaloa Cartel controls most of international coke trafficking. Period.

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El chapo was on wiretap controlling the price of every kilo his crew moved into usa. Think he said 25k a piece or it might have been 22 or someshit he was shipping it to the twin brothers in chicago that flipped on him. Guess the cartel kill some of there family in mexico.
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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Sinaloa Cartel controls most of international coke trafficking. Period.


In the US yes. But Europe has become equal to the US as far as the coke trade and in Europe sinaloa dont control it. Its the italians with the colombians. Then you have Australia,Canada etc where the Calabrians are among the strongest if not the strongest.
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Originally Posted By: pmac
El chapo was on wiretap controlling the price of every kilo his crew moved into usa. Think he said 25k a piece or it might have been 22 or someshit he was shipping it to the twin brothers in chicago that flipped on him. Guess the cartel kill some of there family in mexico.


Yeah i read their testimony, but it was about Heroin i think? But even there they werent buying from El chapo untill very late. They bought from Vincente Zambada and others, but then El chapo had the better heroin for better price i think.
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Dstyle your rite he was saying to the twins 65k or 70k a kilo for the herion.
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I read in a book that even the great Pablo Escobar in the beginning started to send his guys to Europe to take over the cocaine trade without the Italians permission and his guys just wound up murdered. Then he understood that without the Italians there is no work in Europe. I can find you the article if you want
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Originally Posted By: doggystyle
Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Sinaloa Cartel controls most of international coke trafficking. Period.


In the US yes. But Europe has become equal to the US as far as the coke trade and in Europe sinaloa dont control it. Its the italians with the colombians. Then you have Australia,Canada etc where the Calabrians are among the strongest if not the strongest.


Update yourself: http://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/m...europe-europol/

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It clearly says "Colombian and Italian groups continue to dominate the European retail market," ??
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In Ameruca coke is dead. Heroin and meth
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Originally Posted By: doggystyle
It clearly says "Colombian and Italian groups continue to dominate the European retail market," ??

Mexican cartels are shifting the market and possibly replacing the Columbians. Read more on it. They was bust with a Romanian crime groups.

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Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
In Ameruca coke is dead. Heroin and meth


No. It's not.

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Yes. It is
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Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
Yes. It is


Let me clarify. Where YOU at it might not but HERE in my location it's more plentiful.

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Meth and opiates run the world now my brother
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Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
Meth and opiates run the world now my brother


Your obviously not from my state but whatever.

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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Mexican cartels are shifting the market and possibly replacing the Columbians. Read more on it. They was bust with a Romanian crime groups.


in europe the mexican cartels are barely involved, the biggest european criminal groups buy directly from the colombians withouth intermediators; mexicans are the biggest in the us market because of the proximity and the large mexican community in the states
in europe there are not mexican immigrants
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If you could grow coke in any part of the world except Bolivia Peru Colombia it would of been done by now.You really think the Mexican cartels wouldn't of done it already.It cant be done
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
The ndrangheta had the 80 percent monopoly on European imports of the cocaine and where don't distribut it the ndrangheta are middle level supplier for most of the oc gruops in Canada and US.


in the states ndrangheta is not a big player, barely involved
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Originally Posted By: doggystyle
Colombia broke records this year with producing 700 something tons. So if you add upp with the other countries i think its little bit more


it depends on the year, in 2006 colombia produced 600 tons, in 2012 only 300
colombia produces 80% of cocaine worldwide
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