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Re: CNN [Re: dl] #925651
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I'm paying attention.

Fox and every other news organization is biased. Evidence of the bias is not one guy's (even a CEO's) opinion. Actual reporting is more convincing.

Criticizing Fox has been trendy for at least 10 years now so I'm always skeptical of critics. A few years ago it was "understood" that Fox sued for the "right to lie". That claim was pushed for a long time until it was shown that it was not Fox news (it was an affiliate, could have been "The Simpsons"), and it was not suing for the "right to lie". People assume the worst about Fox. Its kind of a guilty until proven innocent thing, so I need to hear real proof before I believe it.

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The problem with libtards is they can't move on. They must dwell and find scapegoats for their problems in life. When we were introduced to our new CEO at the hospital, I'll never forget what he said. There's problems everywhere you go. But if you come to me with a complaint or problem, you better have a solution. When Oak doesn't get laid, he blames his parents for not letting him lock his door when his boyfriend is over. Instead of moving out of his parents basement and getting his own place, he blames Trump and hard working American's (the deplorables) for his inability to make something of himself. And to say that anyone has it hard and are suppressed by white people and republicans is absurd. People come to this great country from all over the world to make something of themselves. I feel that it's safe to assume that not one of them come here and turn to the news to guide them in the correct path of success.

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I agree that most people's problems are a consequence of their actions, at least in the U.S. and probably most other democracies. I'm dealing with a self-inflicted problem right now. Its my fault and that makes it worse, but it also means that I can avoid it in the future, and that's a good thing.

I'm guessing (just a guess) that people blame their problems on others. I have not seen OakAsFan blame any problems on anybody else. In my opinion, he's wrong, but he's not assigning blame. I'm 100% convinced that I'm right about this, and I don't consciously have any dogs in the race, so I'm very comfortable with my arguments.

On a related note, has anybody been listening to Ben Shapiro? I first heard of him a few weeks ago and I'm very impressed.

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Time Warner is a huge corporation, several shareholders. lol. Ailes was the CEO of FoxNews, and he made it clear that he considered the Democratic party to be "the other side". FoxNews was the only news network designed to be a political propaganda network. Those are the facts.


Time Warner being a huge corporation that donates a lot of money to the DNC bolsters our arguement that CNN is a puppet of the democratic party. If Ailes considers the Democrat party as "the other side" then why did he also hire democrats on FOX news like Megan Kelly, Juan Williams, Alan Comes, Geraldo Rivera, Sheppard Smith, Chris Wallace, John Roberts and more. Your facts are wrong once again.
And even if Ailes did say that, he is allowed to voice his political views as long as the company that he runs is fair and balanced. Like hiring people from both sides of the political spectrum. Unlike fake news CNN.They put one republican on and then gang up on him or her.

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"The. Other. Side."

That's not a "view". Those are words of war.

FoxNews was designed to attack progressive politics. To discredit them, to isolate it's outspoken supporters, and to intimidate others from sharing such views. None of the other networks were designed this way They're all subsidiaries of entertainment corporations. Murdoch just dumped off his entertainment assets to shore up the war chest for his political propaganda. With Republicans in control of government, FoxNews is essentially state television. Like North Korea.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Wow, like North Korea? So what's your solution to this problem Oak?

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
"The. Other. Side."

That's not a "view". Those are words of war.

FoxNews was designed to attack progressive politics. To discredit them, to isolate it's outspoken supporters, and to intimidate others from sharing such views. None of the other networks were designed this way They're all subsidiaries of entertainment corporations. Murdoch just dumped off his entertainment assets to shore up the war chest for his political propaganda. With Republicans in control of government, FoxNews is essentially state television. Like North Korea.


"The other side".... Maybe Roger Ailes was on to something:
- When you see the previous administration give away 20% of its uranium to Russia
-allowed ISIS to establish a caliphate.
-Give money to the the Iranian mullahs so that they can continue terror in the middle east.
-giving ammunition to the Mexican cartels
- spy on the opposition party

These are only but a few examples of "the other side's" behavior.

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
"The. Other. Side."

That's not a "view". Those are words of war.



As opposed to what...? The inclusiveness of liberals?

Maybe we just want to be able to use the bathroom without a man dressed as woman walking into the bathroom. Maybe I don't want my wife to be in a bathroom when a man dressed as a woman walks in.

Maybe the fact that we are even debating this complete and utter insanity has had an effect on conservatives and separated us into two groups. If that's your world, you are the other side.

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Most public restrooms are switching to private, single person use, anyway, which is long overdue. Why do we need mens rooms and womens rooms? It's not the 1950s. Do you need to hang out with the guys from Grease and talk about your cars while peeing? Is this what conservatives want?


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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We need mens rooms because men piss standing up and urine goes all over the place. Women sit on those toilets.
Cnn and msnbc are trash and fake news. Fox, although far from perfect , is a voice for conservative values.

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Most public restrooms are switching to private, single person use, which is long overdue.


Environmental stewardship and ocean conservation is long overdue. Sitting around talking about where I piss isn't.

Recognition of our deteriorating labor unions is long overdue. Sitting around talking about where I piss isn't.

Attention to skyrocketing autism rates on Long Island is long overdue (especially among male newborns). Sitting around talking about where I piss isn't.

Discussion on drug addiction and alcoholism is long overdue. Sitting around talking about where I piss isn't.

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Do you need to hang out with the guys from Grease and talk about your cars while peeing? Is this what conservatives want?



Men can't have privacy, yet women can:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/style/the-wing-womens-social-club-magazine.html

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
It's not the 1950s.


This is my favorite feminist quote. Reimagining the 1950's as a female dystopia. Yet ignoring the fact that if we hadn't succeeded in the 1940's, no American woman would currently exist.

(My second favorite feminist quote is "barefoot and pregnant". I think about it every time I see a pregnant woman at the mall with a bag full of high end items, notably shoes)

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Ever see a play on Broadway the women’s line is much longer then the men’s line because women take a long time to do everything. Unlike men who piss standing up. Then we go to the bar in the Theather and have a few while we wait for the women to leave the ladies room. Then return to our seats just before intermission ends.


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Originally Posted By: Aces
We need mens rooms because men piss standing up and urine goes all over the place. Women sit on those toilets.
Cnn and msnbc are trash and fake news. Fox, although far from perfect , is a voice for conservative values.


So, when you pee in your toilet at home, it goes all over the place? Ever considered getting your prostate checked? Or, didn't your mom teach you during potty training that your aim is better when you hold your wee wee? Or, do you just pee intentionally with your arms to your side, like you're the king of your own little bathroom universe?
I can imagine what your place smells like.


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It's not the 1950s.


This is my favorite feminist quote. Reimagining the 1950's as a female dystopia. Yet ignoring the fact that if we hadn't succeeded in the 1940's, no American woman would currently exist.

(My second favorite feminist quote is "barefoot and pregnant". I think about it every time I see a pregnant woman at the mall with a bag full of high end items, notably shoes)


I just said 1950s because I thought of people talking in bathrooms in movies like Grease, like this was once a thing to do. Why else would anyone want "mens rooms" and "womens rooms"? To watch other people go? Maybe we can leave this to the states. Let the advanced states on the coasts build individual use public restrooms, and let the midwest and southern states keep their men and womens rooms, complete with full length mirrors in the ladies' room and a long urinal in the men's room, so the good old boys can "bond" (or whatever else they do in there). Problem solved.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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My hospital in FL along with many stores have what you're describing Oak. I have to agree with you. I don't know how many times I've had to wait for a single men's toilet and knock on the women's and if nobody is in there I relieve myself. I make sure I put the seat down.

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The space used to create the old fashion mens and womens rooms could create enough single use restrooms to serve public traffic with the right planning. Beaches have been doing this for years. Venice Beach is a zoo on weekends yet those single use restrooms work fine. They have long buildings with entire rows of them on each side.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
The space used to create the old fashion mens and womens rooms could create enough single use restrooms to serve public traffic with the right planning. Beaches have been doing this for years. Venice Beach is a zoo on weekends yet those single use restrooms work fine. They have long buildings with entire rows of them on each side.



Citing examples of sexual misconduct on trains, an author recently floated the idea of gender segregated subway cars in NYC. As if sexual assault were an epidemic, which it isn't, the author uses stats from 2017. Here are some other gender related statistics for the modern era:


NYPD rape stats 1990 through 2016:
1990: 3126
2016: 1438
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf

Victims of assault related deaths in London, 2016:
Male: 197
Female: 109
https://www.statista.com/statistics/285451/assault-related-deaths-in-england-and-wales-by-gender/

Overdose deaths in NY State, 2017:
Male - 1574
Female - 592
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/opioid-overdose-deaths-by-gender/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D

US National statistics on workplace deaths, 2015:
Male: 4,492
Female: 344
https://www.investors.com/politics/comme...lace-death-gap/

US Murder victims in 2016 (white):
Male: 6576
Female: 1906
https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/

Now here is the article about the fake sexual assault epidemic and need for segregated cars:
https://www.amny.com/opinion/get-on-track-with-women-only-subway-cars-1.13130301

Be right back. I have to go to the bathroom...







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Wikileaks released the book Fire and fury by the bullshitter Michael Wolff. Just google no registration required. Wikileaks gets it's revenge.

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Rape stats are down because oak stopped following girls and guys and transsexuals. smile


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Did you see trump negotiate with republican and democrats on immigration reform yesterday.

It seemed confusing but it wasn’t. First he knows democrats hate him. Also republicans believe since they got trump in their pocket they can hard bargain democrats.

So what does trump do he says he will stay out of the negotiations and will sign any bill both sides can agree on.

But he also said they need the wall and a stop to relative immigration.

Democrats asked for a clean bill for doca now and later will hammer out the details. They assumed he would say no to that and shut down the government then they can blame trump and the republicans now they can’t say that.

Trump will let the doca people stay here now he said that during the campaign if they are not criminals they can stay.

So the democrats can’t use it against trump in 2020.

But if the wall is not given the okay before the 2018 election republican will hold both houses. Because the democrats will be seen as total obstructionists and liars.

Republican will get more money for defense and have the high ground.

Over all trump really understands how to get what he wants eventually without all the hate.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
The space used to create the old fashion mens and womens rooms could create enough single use restrooms to serve public traffic with the right planning. Beaches have been doing this for years. Venice Beach is a zoo on weekends yet those single use restrooms work fine. They have long buildings with entire rows of them on each side.


I am seeing this in NYC Resturants as well.

Walk downstairs and right into a an open long area of doors to the left and wash up for all on right. Works perfectly, it seamed a bit strange to me at first but made perfect cense and not a problem for anyone.


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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...cnn-big-winner/

CNN was the big four-time award winner in President Donald Trump’s Wednesday night “Fake News Awards” unveiling that presented eleven total awards.

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