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Military OC? #924280
12/07/17 09:06 AM
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Hello there,

This might be a rather unorthodox question/discussion but as I assume there are Americans here with more knowledge on the subject than me I decided to ask here;
Militia's(patriot movements) are an interesting subject to me as in many American states they are constitutionally legal, but many of the people involved with these movements end up indicted.

Recently I read the following article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/18/arizona-militia-men-drug-plot-smugglers-fbi
The guy was set up by the FBI into stealing a stash of coke from a cartel.

My question is if there are OC schemes surrounding militia's in the united states, how do certain members make money and keep these movements running?

Re: Military OC? [Re: Immortale] #924283
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This is a really good question. Has OC every dealt with militias selling them weapons, drugs, or using them to deal in contraband, etc.?

Re: Military OC? [Re: Jimmy_Two_Times] #924626
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Originally Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times
This is a really good question. Has OC every dealt with militias selling them weapons, drugs, or using them to deal in contraband, etc.?


I wonder too, is there anyone here with knowledge on the subject?

Re: Military OC? [Re: Immortale] #924929
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Anyone with knowledge?

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Military or militias? Thread title says military but the opening comment seems to ask about militias. Regarding the military, it was ripe for corruption under Donald Rumsfeld. The private contracting went to Dick Cheney's mob and other corporate thieves in the oil and energy industries. Recruitment numbers were pathetic during the Iraq war. Seems with all of the support for the war and all of the faux patriotism, nobody wanted to actually go and fight in it. Go figure. They didn't want to impose a draft, figuring it would doom Bush's reelection, so they instead decreased the recruitment requirements. The military began recruiting people with criminal records, and people on gang files in their local law enforcement jurisdictions. Not sure if any mafia members or associates ended up serving, but the time was certainly ripe, because nobody was looking. They wanted recruitment numbers, and they didn't care how they got them. Naturally, several criminal operations took place within the military ranks during this time, from stealing weapons and supplying gangs with them, to drug dealing right on bases. There was also a drastic increase of known white supremacists in the military ranks in this time. Basically, Donald Rumsfeld turned our armed forces into an extension of the prison system. They recruited from the same pool. There's a book called "Irregular Army" that goes further into this.

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Re: Military OC? [Re: Immortale] #924942
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Thanks Oak!

Re: Military OC? [Re: OakAsFan] #925314
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Military or militias? Thread title says military but the opening comment seems to ask about militias. Regarding the military, it was ripe for corruption under Donald Rumsfeld. The private contracting went to Dick Cheney's mob and other corporate thieves in the oil and energy industries. Recruitment numbers were pathetic during the Iraq war. Seems with all of the support for the war and all of the faux patriotism, nobody wanted to actually go and fight in it. Go figure. They didn't want to impose a draft, figuring it would doom Bush's reelection, so they instead decreased the recruitment requirements. The military began recruiting people with criminal records, and people on gang files in their local law enforcement jurisdictions. Not sure if any mafia members or associates ended up serving, but the time was certainly ripe, because nobody was looking. They wanted recruitment numbers, and they didn't care how they got them. Naturally, several criminal operations took place within the military ranks during this time, from stealing weapons and supplying gangs with them, to drug dealing right on bases. There was also a drastic increase of known white supremacists in the military ranks in this time. Basically, Donald Rumsfeld turned our armed forces into an extension of the prison system. They recruited from the same pool. There's a book called "Irregular Army" that goes further into this.



Althought I did mean militia's, as in; Amateur organizations usually made up of veterans. The info you provided was interesting nonetheless. Thanks!

Re: Military OC? [Re: Immortale] #926605
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Sorry for all the bumps but I'm really interested as to if there's someone with knowledge about the subject here. As this community draws some of the most well read people about aspects of crime.


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