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Boston #920104
09/15/17 08:59 PM
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For this familiar with me knows how I feel about who really runs the things here in Boston and providence. First off I must say this is all my opinion based from what I know in general and from what I heard and what I believe makes sense. First all,I believe esp after what I heard, that the boss is one Vinny Ferrara, underboss Matty and consigliere achille with dinunzio as acting boss bobby Russo as acting consigliere. First remember Ferrara gambale bobby Russo biago Freddy Simone and a few other old timers are retired but really the puppet masters. Ferrara has all the connections in politics known with ny Chicago and in vegas, he smart he's been around.
The providence guys been underestimated in numbers and power. Y'all know how I important and deep I believe they are. Achille is delsanto good friend along with bobo and these guys has strong ties to the older deeper guys from providence whose still around like simonelli milisi and parillo uncle sciarra and old Romano grandson galea who passed away but was the mentor of mob power tineri who is also aligned with manteiri who's father who's a very close confident with old man ray. I can sit here and hurt my fingers with family ties real union and political power and etc. and keep going to prove my case but these people won't mean nothing to many of yous unless I say names like sciarra and Lato or Bianca. But providence always had big guys low key guys real gangsters like bucci and Rossi and mantia and pisaniello or fiord or lasstucci who was Patricia sr running buddies and close gangsters. But to stay on track a few things I noticed in Boston and providence that's solidifies my reasons.
The first I noticed was the main social club changed around the corner. A longtime soldier opens and runs it who is barons cousin another close friend underling of ferrara. Ferrara for those who don't know is related to old school anselmo who's brother in law was old man Lombardo who's nephew was old school Paul intisio. Intisio was always close with nick anguilo who was Ferrara capo and mentor. The gemeni club was on Salem Up the block from cheesemans old cheese shop all during the same time. Same street that's been occupied by guys for years. Same street that's crossed prince and north margin. Those streets was ran by zannino and anguilo. Same street that Ferrara lived on before.!!!! Second thing is garbage. Sunrise scavenger is on his way out and capital and united is back in. Even seen casella and bdt with few surprising routes in surprising neighborhoods and cities. Means new routes and new contracts. A few conn guys who runs with the Boston guys runs garbage. I think one was related to a ny family and was indicted in Connecticut few years back. His uncle whom ran the garbage business worked with yes nick anguilo for the Boston guys who was Ferrara mento supporter teacher and all.
When mannochio went out and limone stepped up, scavanger sunrise a Connecticut company, took over majority of routes in bdt, capital and Campanella routes. Limone always was in garbage in his day. His uncle which is Lombardo who's sister is anguilos moms cousin. Anguilos mom is also old man anselmo family related through marriage. Now Lombardo brother Vincent ran the garbage dump in Everett and Roxbury. The same area where soldier jj pingaro current day,runs his scrap metal businesses and more. I say that to say this whole time, we know they had control of garbage how deep and who was involved I don't know but I know galante a guy in conn who deals with many Boston and bambino guys was close to Quintana who's underboss is spucky, who's childhood running buddy is bobby Russo. Spucky is protege Of legend JR Russo who's good friend is Ferrara. JR Russo brother is bobby Russo carrozza, ally of spucky and Ferrara, also acting consigliere.
Limone and Ferrara was close as he limone was close with dinunzio as well. Dinunzio is said to be "boss" but really he's the street boss. Garbage is huge as huge as union and they have union with the providence guys in tillinghast, mannochio nephew, Matty and few others. And the last thing I know is how these old school guys with this real small tight knit circles are still involved but distant from everyone except a very few like the cheese and spucky and even jimmy martorano who's very low and very influential all over and big with the colombos and genovese. Knowing how tight they are and low key they stayed I knew something was up but after I heard what I heard it makes sense. The guys they promoted, the guys who they choose to have be there trusted guys and be the gofer. Like cheese man has costa, Ferrara has bobby Russo and he has spucky and achille and. Delsanto has Matty and Matty has parillo but I'm sure longtime trusted guy in milisi will be the in between.
I mean to be honest from what I know this makes more sense than 1,2,3 but of course what do I know. And then these stories I always seen and heard. Like I never read Vincent teresa book but I heard his brother and uncles was the real dea. Say he was related to big time guy called Moretta, north end guy whose family is strong till this day. I know a guy a moretta very active his uncle is fucking huge. Anyway Teresa in his book I guess said there's was a council like what Detroit and genevise have. I heard lombardo created that system him and buccolla and Rocco and fuccillo and Catherine original cheese who they said was in with lansky and Close with Anastasia. I kind of believe that though it's hard to believe after what you read and hear about for the most part. But I never understood how many old timers just carded away and here come patraica yes powerful in his own right but even he I heard used to have people he had to answer to in providence and Boston and when they spoke I heard he listen and a name that might sound familiar was tameleo along with bucci and chairchara originally cheeseman. Even a man by the name of straccucci was so big in prov that patraiaca had to ask him for a ok. Sounds crazy I know but these old timers now who is the silent puppeteers I see them how they move and what they value. I think of old man Lombardo as strong as he was just allow things to be changed and have little say. And be active until late 60s don't make sense salvellti rocco Americo Isabella these guys who strictest providence and Boston to just diminish peacefully and allow things to disarray and crumble by new bloods. Idk those days was to crazy to easy to control and to many powerful people to just allow things to diminish. How a Theodore fuccillo killer gangster from the Lombardo days of the 20s and 30s who died in thi 90s who mentored guys like sonny Rizzo granito old Ralph rossetti and even joe Russo was in with fuccillo. What happens he just goes away like tony santienello who ran revere Everett was a killer had power he just lives until the 70s and allow anguilo and whoever do whatever with no say when his say was the say I don't get it. Even how buccolla. A close Luciano guy strong guy made guy in Sicily and Boston originator sends guys from Sicily even though he retired to Sicily just sent guys like biago and Vito and Angelo over for no reasons and still attended big meeting and all until his death. I know patraica was strong the boss. I know a lot of guys. What's to say in the 60 and 70s the Feds wasn't just so happy with all the new players power players like the new families and names and forgot about the real power and old timers who had the real politicians like a Costello and buccola and a torrio and a guy like Lombardo and Rocco and bucci said let these guys get the heat run things but they know who gives the ok and they know who's nod really matters and the Colombo wars the Boston wars bonnono wars and these casino and all the new age development of that time just allowed the old guys to fall in the back and run things like how bucollo had casinos and he left in the 50s and Lombardo still ran north end but he close down in the 50/s. And let anguilo run it but Larry zannino was reporting to Lombardo until his death so was anguilo it who knows that right. I don't I know dark small things that adds up I know the general info we get and what they say. I know one thing these secretive conniving society I grew up in and around is very sneaky full of surprises and these stories I heard didn't suprise me but what did suprise me is that this whole time my theory really really is a crazy good possibility and I really over looked it and I'm just like this whole time I forget guys like milisi intisio simonelli Cardillo paterno are real old school guys people like Joe black and torisio and noyes and sAndrelli these are real ex active day soldiers who are so close so inherited of the gangsters in their blood community remind me of the power they have the people who listens to them. And how things went by them first. Makes me think of guys like Lombardo and fuccillo and sawtelli and guys of today like biago and barons and simone. These guys are the real breed of gangsters and really makes me always think of who really runs and ran things.

Last edited by Joerusso; 09/18/17 01:23 PM.

raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Boston [Re: Joerusso] #920127
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That was a lot of fuckin knowledge.....damn


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Re: Boston [Re: Joerusso] #920129
09/16/17 11:07 AM
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Joe. I understand that VF is in charge. Has been for years. I know he has been at the helm since at least 2014.

Great post. Keep them coming.

Re: Boston [Re: Joerusso] #920130
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Makes sense. That guy would never retire. He was jammed up in a gambling operation a few years after being released from doing 16yrs in the feds. So he knows all the heavy bosses in nyc and probaly merlino. He probaly came home after 5 yrs of hanging around the north end probaly jumped back in. Big cheese and his brother seem to get high up in the boston organization cause all the old guys were still in jail or supervised release. It would be a bad look to all the guys from anguilos days for these guys to be boss.

Re: Boston [Re: Joerusso] #920132
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Theres a few captains from jerrys anguilos 1980 days even capos from ray jr days why would they not nominate one of there own as boss. The whole boss thing is different from then days if vinny f is the official boss i think his main power is the final say in disputes between all members of the organization. That power of life an death is a relic of the past. Hes probaly making great money of all his restaurants and apartments. Maybe takes gifts from his guys. I read the whole little war between ray jr and the 3 capos started because ray jr thought vinny animal was gonna roll like phil leonetti did in early 1989 and ray wasnted him dead. He knew to much. So jr russo and them went on the offensive. Thats probaly water under the bridge they both went to prison for long times probaly kissed and made up.

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I wonder how many hits the guys did for ray jr. He took over as official boss in late 1984. Before they started beefing rays made all them guys capos . Russo was probaly one already. So his 5 years as boss not one murder got blamed on him which is strange cause you no he orderd a few. Got lucky i guess.

Re: Boston [Re: Joerusso] #920145
09/16/17 02:22 PM
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Pac your right I too believe he Ferrara makes the overall decision and like he has been and he is six to probably seven men away from anything and these are fucking solid brick men so for him to come up in anything would be deep, turbulent, fucking a earthquake. As far as ray jr he was involved with some big guys as well. I think he not only was jr russo throwing his weight around but ray jr he was good with a few of ray sr good guys and yea he was involved and did a few hits from what I heard.
His first hit i Hears was with his uncle jow patraica whom he took after low humble soft demeonar, same brother patraica almost had clipped. His son, jow patraica is a lawyer in same building as cicciline, longtime mob lawyer in providence, whom patraica jr his cousin has many dealings with and super close with. A distant cousin even changed the name a bit to be a broadcast anchor in providence. But ray jr still had all the ok from the hits in providence and there were a few from 84 to 90 or whenever he got picked up. Russo was just trying to get rid of all the dead weight, salemme because he never thought salemee was material and that salemme was with Flemimi and bulger and Russo was always trying to get rid of both since the 60s when him and his good friend decienzo was clipping things like a barber. Russo was one of the go to guys with his right hand decienzo, one of the frizzi brothers ninni frizzi, fuccillo son In law a young hitman by the name sally ciampi young bobby Russo and spucky was around and decicienzo cousin santoro. Prochilo father who they call leo who is huge is the labor union was close with old man fuccillo who always ran eastie but prochilo was never close with Russo which plays down in the 90s with bobby Russo and ciampi and Rossettis going back with old man Ralph who is also close with Russo and prochillo as well. Ralph was dangerous as well real close with Russo and a good friend common prochillo. So when you add ray jr hits it mainly concerns providence because in Boston. He had no say and older providence guys wasn't going disrespect his father but he was getting punked and making providence look bad and that's when Nicky who was close with Russo kind of started being the fox and switching sides but Russo was ruthless and didn't care for bianco as he can go too.
Ray jr hits is more of tha approval of numbs in providence calends but whatever crazy little like real low level street shit that he would approve of never no serious family business but he knew the life well. Just didn't have that demand and respect to lead and put respect in the rest of the real gangsters. I know a few of the providence guys who were out said they wouldn't interfere due to the fact that ray jr wasn't asking for help from them bust instead pleading his way and they didn't like that at all. Bianco who was goin to step up was worried about getting more territory in Connecticut from his close ties with the colombos and Russo thought he should have the seat and run the fAmily like a old school thing.

Russo was capo before ray died when the anguilos got picked up he took over the east Boston faction where he is from and always has control. When he was fighting for control he gave rizzo the captain seat for revere/beachmont crew and brother bobby Russo dealt with the rest of the eastie/ Winthrop crew. Salemme slick ass for for some guys like Rossetti and even Quintana on his side because they thought he was being power to Boston in which he was doing was bring in the rest of winter hill and whoever he dealt with. You have to remember salemme was connected becuse of flemmi and flemmi was connected because of his brother the bear. Salemme never was in the real circles of the family he knew and dealt with real close guys of course but never was he under no one not even zannino or even lastrucci who stated the Marconi club and was a big guy in Roxbury for the family in the days when salemme he flemmis and zannino whom they was under for a while one the old days. So these guys like Russo and biago and Ferrara and delsanto or Masselli all with bloodline or just in their blood for that life allow ray jr to just let salemme come and run things on your behalf it can start a big riff that any tension or ripple just adds to the bullshit. Russo is old school and went to get the ok that's when more people was made people was bumped and more indictments that just opened the doors for another bunch of guys who had been disliking each other and just grouped with these other guys Rosetti and delicate and Salemme trying to take over the rackets but the east Boston guys wasn't haven't it and bobby Russo said no and got guys like my good friends and cold killer scraps and ciampi and lepore and even Romano a old school Russo underling to fight the salemme eastie crew of Rosetti devlin Souza and prochilo and others who tried taking over the rackets per order of new boss salemme. Then came down indictments and new boss mannochio come in and rizzo who was always neutral but aligned with Ferrara, and Rosetti and guys like prochilo and buffalino and got made and bumped up and dinunzio came back and settled the spucky Simone beef and things shaped up from there.

But providence played little part while they re builded got stronger the whole time. But ray jr allowance of reckless hits in providence and his role as boss being disrexpeged and rattled caused a series of indictments a power shift a war and more reckless cowboys style of war and murder. Rays jr has more blood on him than his old man can ever have. His old man order controlled hits he couldn't do blood spilled so much it covered the entire 20 odd some years of cold blood from his lack of using those big rubber lips.

Last edited by Joerusso; 09/18/17 01:27 PM.

raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Good to see you posting again JR, always appreciated.

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Ton of info Russo...as you said, opinion,,I agree with a good chunk of it..not all of it though...far as disagreement, I say biag days are long over...Richie g as well..both did well legit, god bless..but the street isn't a place for them....regarding jimmy m...check with your sources, I don't say that disrepectfully( I know we have had issues in the past), what I mean is, I think you may find esp now, that things arent what they appear.......you allude to some good friends in the second post.....well then, we have some things in common....pmac...vinny does well...and he married good too lol

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There's probably some good/great information here but with the one paragraph, typos, spelling errors and no punctuation, I got dizzy and puked all over my keyboard after the second sentence.

What a shame


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Russo ive read a few places that bulger was to be killed by the winter hill gang in early 70tys like 71 72. Bulger was friends with jr russo who called for a sitdown between howie winter and a few guys and jimmy bulger. Russo went to bat for bulger and howie and friends gave him a pass an let him into the fold. Thats when whitey started journying out of southie. Theres a bunch of pics from 1980 at whiteys car shop with him shotting the shit with vinny animal femia and donato anguilo plus others. Whitey was one of them he just new when jerry and his brothers went to prison he could get a way bigger slice of the pie and he did.

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Pmac, I've heard to..story...of jr going to bat from whitey, in books and I think 302s..not sure I believe in their...friendship...so to speak..regarding the pics, could be wrong I don't think vinny is pictured with him, Nicky femia is though

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Originally Posted By: azguy
There's probably some good/great information here but with the one paragraph, typos, spelling errors and no punctuation, I got dizzy and puked all over my keyboard after the second sentence.

What a shame



I agree 100%. I'm sure this is amazing stuff but it is too long and no paragraphs. Bummer.

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It makes me sick when i read what a few of you write on here. JOERUSSO WHERE do you get your information from. Do you write things just for people to write back to you because you are so far off it is sicking. Now i know some of you are going to say well newengland if you know the truth then tell us but i can not do that. What i can tell you is that if you know anything the word RUBBER LIPS came from two SCUMBAG RATS. [FRANKIE AND BOBBY AKA THE RAT BROTHERS] So when JOE RUSSO writes this about RAY JR he really is defending two SCUMBAG RATS. The other thing is when you choose to get in the game no matter what decision's you get good or bad you always fly straight. The other thing is if Vinny, Bobby C, or Ray Jr were sitting in front of YOU JOERUSSO or PMAC the both of you would not open your mouth unless you were told to. One last thing so you do know i am not some jerk off writing on here. RAY JR REAL NAME BACK THEN WAS ABRAHAM and you can take that to the bank.

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I new you would crawl out of your hole welcome back new england you twat.

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Only a man would laugh at what you wrote i am laughing right now. You really are funny. You must also be a FACEBOOK gangster. LMAO.

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First off I didn't know we was in grade school and worried I about grammar. I'm no professor and I'm not proof reading shit ESP Robbie correct grammeraticly for no blog. I thought it was convos and discussions not grammar school. Is my punctuation right. And I'm not feeding to you clown not at all. They called Abraham I think when he applied for school or referred to him when is old man was in the can. As for rubber lips as long as you can see you see why they call him rubber lips and no one is going to disrespect someone obviously that's a mocking name. But yea pmac I believe I read that somewhere to but I don't think they was tight Russo and whitey. I know Russo didn't trust like or think highly of Russo or flemmi. I know Russo never like flemmi because if flemmi brother Vincent and Russo never like each other. Russo was just as dangerous and flemmi.flemmi was a nut Russo was a cold blooded gangster. Anyway Russo was always good with king and nee esp nee. I know for a fact Ferrara and nee are real good friends now.😉 But Russo I think backed nee for a sitdown with winter to stop the southie war and split the neighborhood. I heard Russo was good with king nee and winter helped winter back up whitey. But def a sitdown happened and Russo was the guy to make it official. So that shows his power and this is before the Barboza hit. Now I wonder what was Russos cut from all this? If it was even different from the sports betting thing Howie had with anguilo. ? Now it makes me think? Wonder if that's why anguilo was quick to send Russo and his crew to take out bulger and flemmi if needed because he knew Russo had reasons too clip whitey? Wonder if he knew whiter clipped king and was just not his business.


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Originally Posted By: pmac
I new you would crawl out of your hole welcome back new england you twat.
LOL


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...

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