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Who supplied the 80s dealers? #917033
07/15/17 09:23 AM
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So it is well documented that Nicky Barnes for example was supplied by Joe Gallo and Matty Madonna in the 70s but who supplied the drug gangs of the 80s like the Supreme Team etc?

Were the 5 families involved in supplying the crack and heroin dealing crews throughout New York?

Its hard to believe they didn't get involved in this. Who did the Gotti crew supply as they were known to be big in heroin?

Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: LouDiMagio] #917035
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Idk about the heroin, but the crack dealing crews of the 80's most likely linked up straight with Latin American connects.

Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: LouDiMagio] #917036
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crack is derived from cocaine. so the mob would just sell the gangs coke and they took it upon themselves to make it.

Nicky Barnes got his heroin from Matty Maddona. so there is a example for the 80s.

Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: LouDiMagio] #917037
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New York was a Cali cartel territory that had a secret cell called the 400 to distribute the coke.Until the 1985 the heroin come from sicily, after from the golden triangle,the coke from colombians or cubans.

Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: LouDiMagio] #917039
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Mark Reiter, Gene Gotti and crew, possible triad involvement to some extent, purple gang and pizza connection

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Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: LouDiMagio] #917049
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A lot of heroin came out of Bushwick brooklyn. A crew of zips. Thats a fact.
Up until the mid 80's.
Coke came from corona queens via the colombians and some cubans.

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Frank Matthews, Ike Atkinson and other wholesale to mid level dealers involved in heroin as well. Definitely the columbians & Dominicans traffickers involved in moving coke to the crews of NYC.


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Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: LouDiMagio] #917061
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Who took over Galante's market after 1979?

Galante seemed to have a huge chunk of the market until they took him out.

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Cesar "the tall one". One of Galante's "trusted" zip bodyguards. Massino had him whacked, had he remained alive he would have been indicted for the pizza connection.

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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
Frank Matthews, Ike Atkinson and other wholesale to mid level dealers involved in heroin as well. Definitely the columbians & Dominicans traffickers involved in moving coke to the crews of NYC.


That was 1970s

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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
Who took over Galante's market after 1979?

Galante seemed to have a huge chunk of the market until they took him out.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=884773#Post884773


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Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: blueracing347] #917081
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Originally Posted By: blueracing347
Cesar "the tall one". One of Galante's "trusted" zip bodyguards. Massino had him whacked, had he remained alive he would have been indicted for the pizza connection.


If memory serves me correctly, Sal Catalano was even higher up than Cesare Bonventre. It was rumored somewhere that Sal was almost made boss of the Bonannos in the early eighties but he either didnt speak English or his English was so poor that he didnt end up in the top seat... which was problematic because he wouldn't have been able to communicate to his captains. If this were true, I wonder why he couldn't have had someone who was bilingual to translate and serve as a messenger.


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Originally Posted By: Extortion
Mark Reiter, Gene Gotti and crew, possible triad involvement to some extent, purple gang and pizza connection


James Jackson was the big heroin dealer in Harlem that the gotti crew supplied

http://www.upi.com/Archives/1988/02/02/Two-reputed-mobsters-indicted-in-drug-ring/1642570776400/


http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/848/336/291565/


Act of Racketeering Nine
It was a part of the pattern of racketeering activity that, from on or about January 1, 1980, up to and including October 31, 1987, in the Southern District of New York and elsewhere, MARK REITER, ANGELO RUGGIERO, VITO LOIACONO, RAYMOND CLARK, a/k/a "Romar," LEONARD ROLLACK, a/k/a "Petey," a/k/a "Peter Rollack," a/k/a "Peter Ifill," TIMOTHY SMITH, a/k/a "Heartbeat," and ALFRED DICKS, the defendants, and James Jackson, a/k/a "Jack," a/k/a "James Bentley Jackson," a/k/a "Steven Gates," Eugene Romero, a/k/a "Mike Mellon," a/k/a "Eugene Prince," a/k/a "Mellon," Anthony Osborne, a/k/a "Oz," Anthony Mackenzie, a/k/a "Mac," a/k/a "Anthony Curry," Jerome Harris, a/k/a "Bones," Joseph Rodney Stokes, a/k/a "Littleman," Joseph Sherman, Matthew Walton, Ted H. Key, a/k/a "Ted Harold Key," a/k/a "Teddy Keys," a/k/a "Dwayne Sykes," Marco Wyche, Warren Cooper, Sherman Flowers, a/k/a "Sherman Bent," Anthony Johnson a/k/a "Tony Johnson", [sic ] Russell Fleming, Cherie Brown, a/k/a "Cherie Sloan," Joseph Bethea, a/k/a "Bey," James Simmons, a/k/a "Boo," Jerry Davis, a/k/a "New York Jerry," and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, unlawfully, intentionally and knowingly did conspire to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute a Schedule I narcotic drug controlled substance, to wit, quantities of heroin, in violation of Section 846 of Title 21, United States Code.


Reiter's trial commenced on May 2, 1988. The evidence against him included the testimony of numerous cooperating witnesses, including Leroy "Nicky" Barnes, James Jackson (who testified, among other things, that Reiter had supplied him with many kilograms of pure heroin, and that Reiter had personally ordered the murders of Beverly and Steven Ash after learning that Nicky Barnes had begun to cooperate with authorities (Tr. 316-343)), Salvatore Corallo (who testified, among other things, that his responsibilities were "to test, package heroin, weigh heroin, deliver [kilogram quantities of] heroin and collect cash from the sales of those heroin deals" to Reiter (Tr. 2235-36)), Vito Loiacono (who testified, among other things, that he worked "distributing the heroin for Mark, pick[ing] up money, set[ting] up appointments, pick[ing] up the drugs and stor[ing] it" over a period of years (Tr. 4028-4048)), and Russell Fleming (to whom Vito Loiacono delivered heroin for Reiter, and who Reiter ordered killed after he learned that Fleming was cooperating

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: Stubbs] #917087
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Originally Posted By: Stubbs
Originally Posted By: blueracing347
Cesar "the tall one". One of Galante's "trusted" zip bodyguards. Massino had him whacked, had he remained alive he would have been indicted for the pizza connection.


If memory serves me correctly, Sal Catalano was even higher up than Cesare Bonventre. It was rumored somewhere that Sal was almost made boss of the Bonannos in the early eighties but he either didnt speak English or his English was so poor that he didnt end up in the top seat... which was problematic because he wouldn't have been able to communicate to his captains. If this were true, I wonder why he couldn't have had someone who was bilingual to translate and serve as a messenger.


Catalano led the Sicilians and I always asumed he stayed with them untill today now he's back in Sicily.


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Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: Louiebynochi] #917104
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Leonard Rollack who was in that case was the father of Pistol Pete who went on to be a big drug dealer. Could he have been supplied by mob?

https://www.biography.com/people/pistol-pete-rollock-21370673

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http://www.nytimes.com/1983/08/24/nyregion/13-are-charged-with-operating-big-heroin-ring.html

An article from 1983, did the mob lose their grip on the drugs trade throughout the 80s due to the main suppliers been either killed or jailed and them losing the people with the contacts on the street and also the know how for the trade?

With the crack explosion did that result in less heroin been sold throughout that time or more? There would have been more addicts created. Would use heroin to come down from crack?

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Re: Who supplied the 80s dealers? [Re: LouDiMagio] #917116
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Originally Posted By: LouDiMagio
Leonard Rollack who was in that case was the father of Pistol Pete who went on to be a big drug dealer. Could he have been supplied by mob?

https://www.biography.com/people/pistol-pete-rollock-21370673


Pistol Pete was the founder of the sex money murda set of the bloods much later on. I doubt he had any mafia connections, i think it was through an uncle or stepdad that he was supplied.


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