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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: GangstersInc] #914822
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Gotti jr cant do time?? He did a total of 8 years, 2 of which were in solitary.
He told his dad he wanted to walk away then he did 6 years, its when he came out and his father passed that he officially walked away. This was after he did 6 years.

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Agree.

I love it how people on this board love to shit on Jnr. About how he's absolutely not a tough guy, etc. etc.
What a joke. The guy did EIGHT fucking years inside but no, that's nothing, according to people here who've done zero fucking time.
The guy could also tear anyone on this board a second one, but, yeah, he's a pussy.

What a joke.

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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: GangstersInc] #914853
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How many tough guys on the street do you know do their fighting on the internet ??

Matter of fact people get mocked on this board for doing exactly that...

Doing the 8 years,yeah that's tough...Having your battles on the internet instead of face to face is anything but tough !!

If he was smart he'd just let it go already, because it only embarrasses him more !!

Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: GangstersInc] #914869
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(Sorry forget to hit quote Tiger's post)
I agree he has nothing but what do U expect

He's done long stint abroad and whatever money he had/ that's assuming he even had any to begin with is gone

Unlike Gotti Jr he doesn't have a rich daddy to come home to

All these rats don't have much- especially the lower tier guys like Alite. They go into witsec and get some dead end job etc

Guys like Sammy were able to keep their money or Leonetti who robbed his uncle

Plus with a criminal record it's going to be hard trying to set up a business, unless u have a lot of money and don't need a loan

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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: Aces] #914870
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Originally Posted By: Aces
Gotti jr cant do time?? He did a total of 8 years, 2 of which were in solitary.
He told his dad he wanted to walk away then he did 6 years, its when he came out and his father passed that he officially walked away. This was after he did 6 years.




Your missing the point

He did 8 yrs because he saw the light at end of the tunnel

In his mind he figured he'd plead the case, do his time and get out

Leonetti would have done 8 yrs sitting on his head. 45 yrs is a different matter

Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: GangstersInc] #914898
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Did Gotti really do two years in solitary?

Or was it two weeks and he embellished it?

He seems like the kind of guy who would embellish something like that.

What I don't like is one guy acting as if he holds the moral victory over the other.

Gotti wrote a book. Gotti is doing a movie. Gotti's family are Z list reality TV stars. Gotti gave the Feds intel. Gotti gave interviews.

All rat moves.

A rat by any other name is still a rat. I'm going to paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson in 187: if you are going to be a rat, don't be a half assed rat, be an all the way rat.

Can you imagine real gangsters like Bobby Manna and Jimmy Ida pulling the shit Gotti did?

They would rather die first.

And just because you are a mobster doesn't automatically make you a badass.

The guys at the top (Casso, Amuso and Gotti senior) all comfortably got their asses beat when they threw their weight around in prison.

There is a reason lowly associates pick up debts and not them.


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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: GangstersInc] #914902
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Junior shared a cell with dutch crime boss Henk Rommy in the MCC. Gotti advised him to take a plea deal, because eventhough the case is weak, the prosecution usually wins. But Rommy is defiant and takes his chances in court. He's still serving time. Release Date: 05/31/2021


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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: Moe_Tilden] #914920
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Did Gotti really do two years in solitary?

Or was it two weeks and he embellished it?

He seems like the kind of guy who would embellish something like that.




He sure does...And if he was doing 2 years in solitary you could guarantee he would send mommy to do an exclusive with the NY Daily News about his unfair treatment like he's sent her out numerous other times on his behalf !!

Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: GangstersInc] #914922
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Did JGJ serve his sentence at MCC or was he held there pretrial?

Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: bostonattorney] #914935
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mcc and mdc are pretrial and holding places .. very few guys serve out sentences there..

Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: Hollander] #914936
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Originally Posted By: Hollander
Junior shared a cell with dutch crime boss Henk Rommy in the MCC. Gotti advised him to take a plea deal, because eventhough the case is weak, the prosecution usually wins. But Rommy is defiant and takes his chances in court. He's still serving time. Release Date: 05/31/2021


Rommy's case was a classic example of entrapment by the DEA.


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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: bronx] #914961
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Any sentenced inmate at an MCC is suspect. They house a great number of cooperating witnesses there.

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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: bostonattorney] #914964
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true, many c.i.s there.. make them bunkie's of guys even in there designated joint,

Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: DiLorenzo] #914974
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I highly doubt Jr did 2 years in Solitary ! To see what he did with those 302's says it all,2 years in Solitary/The BoxI think he might have went all in on cooperating but who knows ? And Mobsters in general are fake tough guys,I'd say seeing firsthand and hearing things, most would get they're asses handed to them and have in the street only to then have others handle they're beefs ! It is true,The part where Alite was a straight psychopath in the streets and many were very fearful and scared of the guy for many reasons but during his ratting and now after I don't get the guy ? He just lies like a rug ! I'm not as old as Alite but I knew him very well from the neighborhood. Ronnie was the man in Ozp,woodhaven,HB and always looked out for Alite but Alite goes and fucks Ronnie too ! When no one,I mean the bigger guys in the neighborhood wanted nothing to do with Alite Ronnie took care of him and bent over backwards for the guy

Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: BillyBrizzi] #914980
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
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Junior shared a cell with dutch crime boss Henk Rommy in the MCC. Gotti advised him to take a plea deal, because eventhough the case is weak, the prosecution usually wins. But Rommy is defiant and takes his chances in court. He's still serving time. Release Date: 05/31/2021


Rommy's case was a classic example of entrapment by the DEA.


True, the DEA have quite a few operatives in the Netherlands.


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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: Moe_Tilden] #914995
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Did Gotti really do two years in solitary?

Or was it two weeks and he embellished it?

He seems like the kind of guy who would embellish something like that.

What I don't like is one guy acting as if he holds the moral victory over the other.

Gotti wrote a book. Gotti is doing a movie. Gotti's family are Z list reality TV stars. Gotti gave the Feds intel. Gotti gave interviews.

All rat moves.

A rat by any other name is still a rat. I'm going to paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson in 187: if you are going to be a rat, don't be a half assed rat, be an all the way rat.

Can you imagine real gangsters like Bobby Manna and Jimmy Ida pulling the shit Gotti did?

They would rather die first.

And just because you are a mobster doesn't automatically make you a badass.

The guys at the top (Casso, Amuso and Gotti senior) all comfortably got their asses beat when they threw their weight around in prison.

There is a reason lowly associates pick up debts and not them.



Moe good point especially regarding Ida and Manna, no way would those real deal stone gangsters pull that shit

And Alite is a total punk bitch. His book claiming he got in a fuckin Die Hard John Mcclain like shootout at his farmhouse in Jersey staving off a team of assasins is just one thing in a line of his bullshit


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Re: Mob rat John Alite got beat up at a strip club [Re: GangstersInc] #915000
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Yeh Alite defo bullshits a lot on some of his stories but I guess that's how they want to sell heir books, what with these fictitious stories

However one thing I do give credit to Alite is he says it how it is

And that there is no code on the streets "nobody takes care of u when your away, every guy is looking to bang your wife, your best friend would kill u" etc

He also tells anyone (young guys) who want to be tough guys that they will end up in the slammer and that's the reality of "the life"

Can't knock him on that subject

Whereas most other rats like Leonetti, Sammy, Big Ron could could careless about giving out advice

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Alite also comes across as a bully that preyed on the weak. Again, he was a boxer!! What was his amateur record? He surely fought in the gold gloves?
How the fuck can he say he was a boxer !!!!! Remember, on the street he gets to pick his marks whereas in the boxing ring he would of had to fight guys his own size and also he would have to fight actual boxers and not some shit head in a bar.. thats why you will never see his boxing record.
He tells a story how he abused some guy at his home , i think a contractor.
It was sadistic and bordered on sexual assault. Some weird shit. A good human being would never do something like that.

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Originally Posted By: DiLorenzo
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Did Gotti really do two years in solitary?

Or was it two weeks and he embellished it?

He seems like the kind of guy who would embellish something like that.




He sure does...And if he was doing 2 years in solitary you could guarantee he would send mommy to do an exclusive with the NY Daily News about his unfair treatment like he's sent her out numerous other times on his behalf !!


Well he openly said in his book he filed a complaint or something against the prison, whereas uncle Gene being oldschool refused to and just stayed in solitary until they decided to let him out

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Originally Posted By: Aces
Alite also comes across as a bully that preyed on the weak. Again, he was a boxer!! What was his amateur record? He surely fought in the gold gloves?
How the fuck can he say he was a boxer !!!!! Remember, on the street he gets to pick his marks whereas in the boxing ring he would of had to fight guys his own size and also he would have to fight actual boxers and not some shit head in a bar.. thats why you will never see his boxing record.
He tells a story how he abused some guy at his home , i think a contractor.
It was sadistic and bordered on sexual assault. Some weird shit. A good human being would never do something like that.


Of course he was a bully, that's the whole point of being a monster. The strong prey on the weak. The only ones that aren't bullies are the less hands on type earners/ businessmen

But even they can be bullies by bullying other contractors etc who says they have to get their hands dirty. Does it look like the "sweetheart Tommy Gambino" was going to come round and beat ya ass... he sends someone else to do it

They're all coward bullies

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Originally Posted By: Tonytough
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Did Gotti really do two years in solitary?

Or was it two weeks and he embellished it?

He seems like the kind of guy who would embellish something like that.




He sure does...And if he was doing 2 years in solitary you could guarantee he would send mommy to do an exclusive with the NY Daily News about his unfair treatment like he's sent her out numerous other times on his behalf !!


Well he openly said in his book he filed a complaint or something against the prison, whereas uncle Gene being oldschool refused to and just stayed in solitary until they decided to let him out


What do ya mean..he filed a complaint for being in solitary ??

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Originally Posted By: DiLorenzo
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Did Gotti really do two years in solitary?

Or was it two weeks and he embellished it?

He seems like the kind of guy who would embellish something like that.




He sure does...And if he was doing 2 years in solitary you could guarantee he would send mommy to do an exclusive with the NY Daily News about his unfair treatment like he's sent her out numerous other times on his behalf !!


Well he openly said in his book he filed a complaint or something against the prison, whereas uncle Gene being oldschool refused to and just stayed in solitary until they decided to let him out


What do ya mean..he filed a complaint for being in solitary ??



I read his book last yr so can't remember word for word, but seems like he was in and out of solitary and getting transferred around at times....

The incident I'm referring to was when he was put in solitary for no apparent reason (authorities alleged he was conspiring with his uncle Gene and Pete) to whack the Marion warden (think Gotti Jr claims it was Kasman or Joe Watts) who provided this info

Jr says he himself filed a complaint to get himself out of solitary, whereas uncle Pete wasn't technically in jail yet. Well he was but he was awaiting trial and had more rights so he was taken out of solitary

Whereas Gene outright refused to sue the authorities and just stayed in solitary according to Jr (said his uncle was "old school)

But admitted he himself felt u had to
Use the law to deal with the law

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