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Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: CabriniGreen] #913970
05/29/17 08:52 AM 05/29/17 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Sonny

I think we mostly agree, but the thing is, MASSERIA had the largest family.
But this didn't translate into MILITARY power. He was badly outfought by Maranzano. That's one of the other main reasons guys were switching to his side.


Exactly. You can't have military might without loyalty. And you can't have loyalty if you aren't a good leader. Maranzano outfought Masseria because he had greater loyalty among his men and allies, which translates to military power. I believe it isn't a coincidence that Luciano, who headed the largest family, became the top boss in the end. He was never going to accept Maranzano. The one who commands the largest family is destined to be the most powerful boss.

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Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046409
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Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046452
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First American who mention the latest Italo-American bust.


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Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046711
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It is not an Italian-American bust - it is an Italian operation with investigations with the FBI - quite interesting to see

https://www.quotidianodelsud.it/cal...t-a-long-island-per-conto-di-cosa-nostra
Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046716
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english translation

The Rocca clan and the racketeering on Long Island on behalf of Cosa Nostra

https://news.italy24.press/local/amp/296477

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Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046736
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Those Italian to English translated articles are fucking horrible. There's got to be a Jerry Capeci equivalent out there who can properly translate this shit.
Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046805
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Imagine NYC becoming so saturated with other mobsters that the feds are unable to focus much resources on the 5 Families.
Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046848
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Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: miklo] #1046885
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I found pictures of many of the arrestees from social media, and I must say that they look as far from mobsters as you could possibly get. Guys like John Gotti, Neil Dellacroce, Carmine Galante, and Fat Tony Salerno actually looked like gangsters. I just can't picture these people walking up to someone and calmly putting a hole in someone's head. What you think Hollander, is this a perfect example of looks can be deceiving?
Re: The Ndrangheta in New York and the Uni [Re: Liggio] #1046923
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Originally Posted by Liggio
I found pictures of many of the arrestees from social media, and I must say that they look as far from mobsters as you could possibly get. Guys like John Gotti, Neil Dellacroce, Carmine Galante, and Fat Tony Salerno actually looked like gangsters. I just can't picture these people walking up to someone and calmly putting a hole in someone's head. What you think Hollander, is this a perfect example of looks can be deceiving?


Like in every family some have the charisma most do not, to be succesfull you got to have charisma.

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