Aside from general statements like "the suburbs", where does the 5 families operate. Consider that there are fewer than 5 real NYC Italian neighborhoods left. Consider that Howard Beach is just about finished after the fabric of that neighborhood was destroyed last summer. Consider that Ozone is not even remotely Italian except for Linden Boulevard. Woodhaven is Italian on about one lone block.

Whitestone, Bayside, Auburndale, Middle Village and Maspeth are all fading fast. Astoria is more greek than Italian, and more hipster than either. Bensonhurst is done.

What's left?

We've got North Jersey, especially the northern stretch of Bloomfield avenue, Caldwell, lodi, Rutherford, etc. Staten Island (though a heroin epidemic there threatens the future of that enclave), parts of yonkers, toms river, farmingdale, meachem avenue in Elmont, frankilin square, carle place, bellmore, seeaford, etc.

What else?

Is Bensonhurst really done? Where do all of the Colombo guys operate?

Gravesend, Dyker Heights, maybe?

Park Slope is all gentrified now. A lot of Brooklyn is, as you know, Flushing. But those neighborhoods I listed seem a bit like throwbacks. I could be wrong here, but Brooklyn is still loaded with C's. They have to be posted up somewhere.

Been in Bensonhurst 4 years now !

I am from Brooklyn, flushing is in queens maybe they moved it here?

I will be in Howard Beach on Sunday. I will tell if the Italians and moved out of it

So this may be a dumb question and if it is I do apologize but im a Philly guy...but since the Wiseguys moved outta BK and the Bronx largely, do you guys think they hold court in bars/restaurants in the more suburban Long Island/ North Jersey areas where they typically reside? ... i would think the days of the Gambinos for instance having regular meetings at restaurants in Dyker Heights or Bensonhurst would be dwindling simply because of gentrification but I have no clue... any insight?

So this may be a dumb question and if it is I do apologize but im a Philly guy...but since the Wiseguys moved outta BK and the Bronx largely, do you guys think they hold court in bars/restaurants in the more suburban Long Island/ North Jersey areas where they typically reside? ... i would think the days of the Gambinos for instance having regular meetings at restaurants in Dyker Heights or Bensonhurst would be dwindling simply because of gentrification but I have no clue... any insight?

I'm Sicilian,And Bensonhurst still has tons of Italians,along with Dyker and Bay ridge ! There are Social clubs everywhere !! On the Ave I live on ,If you mean "(social Clubs)" as in the general meaning of the word there is 11 "Social Clubs" within 4 blocks of my residence ! But,If you mean places where they "SOCIALIZE" Forget it, There's cafe's, restaurants big and small and many other businesses where they congregate,It could be a number of places,Jewelry store,Butcher ,Pizza parlor,used car lot,Funeral parlor,Bars or,the number of non descript storefronts on side blocks or avenues with just a doorway and a window with the shades drawn ! Staten Island "Mob Island" as us locals call it is totally controlled,inhabited by Italians,Whites ! 99% of people would have absolutely no idea or clue if they were amongst "WISEGUYS" ! Even the Gang members today don't represent themselves like they did 10-20 years ago !! Ex:The way they dressed,spoke,colors ,signs,etc etc !! Don't people do "MOB TOURS" these days for a fee ?? Lmao,Now that is some funny shit ! Historic hangouts of THE MOB ! What a joke !!

agree H

I was at Regina Pacis last week. Drove in the old neighborhood. Dyker is still Dyker . But Bensonhurst is much different than it was. Even 18th avenue has chinese signs outside most of the stores. It was fucking depressing. It looks like Sunset Park.

I dont know how old you are, but you can't seriously compare the way it is now to the way it was in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Ive also never heard anyone local refer to SI as mob island. Although we did always call the Verrazano the Guinea gangplank. And the north shore of si is definitely not inhabited by italians, and really never was, even 20-30 years ago. Just the south shore.

Im very curious as to where these 11 social clubs in a 4 block radius in bensonhurst are. Can you give a general location, avenue or cross street.

did you go to coluccio bros

Pay no attention to "MrJustSayNo", he does nothing but post broken link after broken link and claims long defunct families (according to LE) as still being factors today. If you ask him, whether it's Cleveland, Ybor City, or Kansas, there's "LOADS OF ITALIANS!!" in all these places and they all still aspire to be nothing more than mobsters.

yes 60th..next time in..what state you in

Areas like Glen Cove, and Manhasset, and other towns further out east on Long Island has a presence of Bonannos. Some of the guys who were pictured and mentioned in those articles about Joe Cammarano Jr. were Queens/LI based Bonannos, by based I mean where most of them currently reside. And I believe the pictures of the meeting Cammarano Jr had were taken in LI, I could be wrong though. There are a few social clubs in these areas, very few. And you simply don't see guys hanging out and holding court outside of bars/restaurants/social clubs anymore.


And while these mobsters moved out to LI, they don't live in Italian enclaves like they once did back in their days in the cities, these suburban areas in Long Island are also very mixed, there's a lot of "white" areas, but real WASP, American types, no blue collar Italians. But a mix of various caucasian types. So they can't sit out for that reason either, they'd stick out like a sore thumb.

Jersey. Monmouth county. Its not bad. Theres a lot of brooklyn people here so you can get pretty good food and groceries, but not like home.