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He's been in jail for a while now, do you think it will dawn on him he won't be out for 20 + years soon and turn rat? Or do you think he will stick it out?

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Originally Posted By: TopCLass
He's been in jail for a while now, do you think it will dawn on him he won't be out for 20 + years soon and turn rat? Or do you think he will stick it out?


As long he thinks he has a second change even after all those years he would stick it out. He's calabrian he won't snitch.


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Welcome by the way. smile


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Scarfo?//never in a million yrs., that's if he even croaks at all..like his nephew said,he wont die until he or his mother goes, & Nancy is gone so...


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Scarfo?//never in a million yrs., that's if he even croaks at all..like his nephew said,he wont die until he or his mother goes, & Nancy is gone so...


Not Scarfo Sr. he means Anthony Nicodemo, but he's from the scarfo/merlino school those guys will never flip.


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Welcome by the way. smile
Scarfo?//never in a million yrs., that's if he even croaks at all..like his nephew said,he wont die until he or his mother goes, & Nancy is gone so...


Not Scarfo Sr. he means Anthony Nicodemo, but he's from the scarfo/merlino school those guys will never flip.
Oh..sorry


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Originally Posted By: TopCLass
He's been in jail for a while now, do you think it will dawn on him he won't be out for 20 + years soon and turn rat? Or do you think he will stick it out?


Number 1, he was facing life. It dawned on him he could do 20 years instead of life and still be viewed as a stand up guy instead of doing zero time and ratting out his friends. So no, he knew he would do most of the 20 before being released, it's not going to be any different when he is 10 years into his bid. He knew what he was facing. It was his own fault for one of the dumbest hits in history. It was his own fault. No need to take down everybody else for his stupidity.

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He's serving 25 years (minimum).


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Welcome by the way. smile


Thank you and thank you everyone else who replied some good answers.

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What is the story with this Merlino guy and his LCN family? Was just told that they had a beef and beer fund raiser for Merlino. Are these guys for real or what!!! What a joke these guys really are. This is what the Philly mob turned into today. No respect, no loyalty, and most importantly NO MONEY. WTF!!! Next thing we will hear is that they are having a yard sale.

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Nicodemo wasn't the shooter on the hit--he was driving the getaway car, which even the Feds admit. The shooter hopped out of Nicodemo's Honda and blasted DiPietro, then hopped back in--all in broad daylight. Most people in SP would just look the other way, but there was a postman right there who described the shooter as "short and stocky."

Now, pretty much everybody assumes that it was Baby Dom Grande (including the feds), but they can't make a case if Nicodemo won't rat--Nicodemo was caught with the gun in his car, and no one else can ID Grande. So basically Nicodemo must know that Grande and others will take care of his wife and kid while he's away (and also watch his business interests--guy was pretty successful in the legit world), because even as a guy doing 25 years, he has the ultimate card to play--he can take down the whole family if he flips.

I think the Philly FBI office also suspects Nicodemo was in on the Johnny Gongs hit, and he was also Merlino's driver at one point. He knows a lot.

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Anyone have an idea of this "Twitch" character is mentioned as a suspect in the Johnny Gongs hit when the investigation was just initially started:

http://mycitypaper.com/articles/2003-11-27/cb.shtml

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Originally Posted By: Giacomo
Nicodemo wasn't the shooter on the hit--he was driving the getaway car, which even the Feds admit. The shooter hopped out of Nicodemo's Honda and blasted DiPietro, then hopped back in--all in broad daylight. Most people in SP would just look the other way, but there was a postman right there who described the shooter as "short and stocky."

Now, pretty much everybody assumes that it was Baby Dom Grande (including the feds), but they can't make a case if Nicodemo won't rat--Nicodemo was caught with the gun in his car, and no one else can ID Grande. So basically Nicodemo must know that Grande and others will take care of his wife and kid while he's away (and also watch his business interests--guy was pretty successful in the legit world), because even as a guy doing 25 years, he has the ultimate card to play--he can take down the whole family if he flips.

I think the Philly FBI office also suspects Nicodemo was in on the Johnny Gongs hit, and he was also Merlino's driver at one point. He knows a lot.


Don't believe it's ever been reported that Nicodemo wasn't the hitter. So far, at least to my knowledge, it's just speculation someone other than Nicodemo was the shooter. I've heard both arguments from those who believe he wasn't and others who believe it was specifically Dom Grande. I think there are valid points for both sides to be made. As far as the topic goes, I say he eats it.

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The general consensus from law enforcement is that Gongs was one of the Martorano shooters along with his brother Stevie Gongs, then Nicodemo whacked Gongs, and then Nicodemo aided Dominic Grande (make his bones) in whacking Gino DiPietro who was supposedly giving the Feds information on the Gongs hit.

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Everyone knows Dom Grande was the shooter in the DiPietro hit in South Philly, law enforcement just doesn't have enough evidence to charge him. Grande reported to Nicodemo and Nicodemo proposed Grande to be made. Grande and Nicodemo also had legitimate real estate investments together. The Borgata Bookmaking bust is a perfect example of Nicodemo's "crew" I use the word crew loosely, more like his criminal network. 9/10 of those guys in the Borgata Bust were loyal to Nicodemo, Mikey Lance only got roped into that bust because he was Nicodemo's captain the time of the Borgata bust (charges were eventually dropped on Mikey Lance)

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Originally Posted By: phillyguy39
What is the story with this Merlino guy and his LCN family? Was just told that they had a beef and beer fund raiser for Merlino. Are these guys for real or what!!! What a joke these guys really are. This is what the Philly mob turned into today. No respect, no loyalty, and most importantly NO MONEY. WTF!!! Next thing we will hear is that they are having a yard sale.


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Everyone knows Dom Grande was the shooter in the DiPietro hit in South Philly, law enforcement just doesn't have enough evidence to charge him. Grande reported to Nicodemo and Nicodemo proposed Grande to be made. Grande and Nicodemo also had legitimate real estate investments together. The Borgata Bookmaking bust is a perfect example of Nicodemo's "crew" I use the word crew loosely, more like his criminal network. 9/10 of those guys in the Borgata Bust were loyal to Nicodemo, Mikey Lance only got roped into that bust because he was Nicodemo's captain the time of the Borgata bust (charges were eventually dropped on Mikey Lance)


at this day in age, it's only a matter of time before grande gets indicted or caught on tape without nicodemo having to say anything. If that happens, he could appeal and get out earlier or withtime served on a lesser offense. plus nicodemo has a gorgeous wife, won't be long at her young age before she's had enough and that could change the entire ballgame

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Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
Anyone have an idea of this "Twitch" character is mentioned as a suspect in the Johnny Gongs hit when the investigation was just initially started:

http://mycitypaper.com/articles/2003-11-27/cb.shtml

Only guy I could think of would be Mikey "Penknife" Virgilio. "Twitch" because of the tourettes.

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Anyone have an idea of this "Twitch" character is mentioned as a suspect in the Johnny Gongs hit when the investigation was just initially started:

http://mycitypaper.com/articles/2003-11-27/cb.shtml

Only guy I could think of would be Mikey "Penknife" Virgilio. "Twitch" because of the tourettes.
Penknife, I believe, is not among the living anymore, I think i remember reading somewheres..I may b wrong...


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Yes, Virgilio was a knockaround guy who was tight with all of Merlino's crew when they were growing up in South Philly--his dad was Nick The Blade Virgilio, one of Scarfo's guys (hence the son was "Mikey Pen-Knife"). He died about ten years ago.

A famous moment in the Merlino trial back in the 1990s came when Ralph Natale said that Virgilio and Michael Lancellotti had been the shooters in the Joe Sodano hit--and Jack McMahon asked them both to stand (they were in the back row of the courtroom) so Natale could point them out. Virgilio was shaking so badly from his Tourette's that he didn't seem like much of a hit man--and it played a major part in Natale's credibility being destroyed. And the jury had to wonder--if these guys were the shooters and Natale was credible, why weren't they in jail or on trial?

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does anybody know if nicodemo's wife is 'truly' willing to raise her kids on her own with anthony in the can? i know some wives who stick it out and many others do not, especially those with a very young family. i gotta give nicodemo alot of credit, hes a tough sob

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is merlino firmly in charge of philly or is mazzone still the street boss? and if you are from philly and know some of these guys, do you think mazzone is more effective as a boss than merlino? merlino seems small time compared to some of the bosses that have come out of philly. i only know what i read on philly.

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Originally Posted By: dinocrocetti
is merlino firmly in charge of philly or is mazzone still the street boss? and if you are from philly and know some of these guys, do you think mazzone is more effective as a boss than merlino? merlino seems small time compared to some of the bosses that have come out of philly. i only know what i read on philly.


Merlino is still considered the Boss. Though a lot of people would agree that on the street; Mazzone has more respect. He's the go between the Merlino faction and Scarfo guys like the Narducci's and Pungitore's.

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is merlino firmly in charge of philly or is mazzone still the street boss? and if you are from philly and know some of these guys, do you think mazzone is more effective as a boss than merlino? merlino seems small time compared to some of the bosses that have come out of philly. i only know what i read on philly.


Merlino is still considered the Boss. Though a lot of people would agree that on the street; Mazzone has more respect. He's the go between the Merlino faction and Scarfo guys like the Narducci's and Pungitore's.


good info, thanks irishkaos. do you think the scarfo faction would rather deal with mazzone or merlino? i know alot of those guys were close to joeys dad but i always wondered what they truly thought of joey.

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Everyone knows Dom Grande was the shooter in the DiPietro hit in South Philly, law enforcement just doesn't have enough evidence to charge him. Grande reported to Nicodemo and Nicodemo proposed Grande to be made. Grande and Nicodemo also had legitimate real estate investments together. The Borgata Bookmaking bust is a perfect example of Nicodemo's "crew" I use the word crew loosely, more like his criminal network. 9/10 of those guys in the Borgata Bust were loyal to Nicodemo, Mikey Lance only got roped into that bust because he was Nicodemo's captain the time of the Borgata bust (charges were eventually dropped on Mikey Lance)


at this day in age, it's only a matter of time before grande gets indicted or caught on tape without nicodemo having to say anything. If that happens, he could appeal and get out earlier or withtime served on a lesser offense. plus nicodemo has a gorgeous wife, won't be long at her young age before she's had enough and that could change the entire ballgame

I'm sure Nicodemo was aware of all of this before agreed to plead guilty. He knows as well as anyone in Philly how the life works. Since no witnesses could identify the shooter, I don't think Grande ever gets arrested unless he's caught saying something on wiretap or Nicodemo flips.


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Everyone knows Dom Grande was the shooter in the DiPietro hit in South Philly, law enforcement just doesn't have enough evidence to charge him. Grande reported to Nicodemo and Nicodemo proposed Grande to be made. Grande and Nicodemo also had legitimate real estate investments together. The Borgata Bookmaking bust is a perfect example of Nicodemo's "crew" I use the word crew loosely, more like his criminal network. 9/10 of those guys in the Borgata Bust were loyal to Nicodemo, Mikey Lance only got roped into that bust because he was Nicodemo's captain the time of the Borgata bust (charges were eventually dropped on Mikey Lance)


at this day in age, it's only a matter of time before grande gets indicted or caught on tape without nicodemo having to say anything. If that happens, he could appeal and get out earlier or withtime served on a lesser offense. plus nicodemo has a gorgeous wife, won't be long at her young age before she's had enough and that could change the entire ballgame

I'm sure Nicodemo was aware of all of this before agreed to plead guilty. He knows as well as anyone in Philly how the life works. Since no witnesses could identify the shooter, I don't think Grande ever gets arrested unless he's caught saying something on wiretap or Nicodemo flips.


Maybe nobody wants to identify him; maybe the neighborhood closed ranks?


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is merlino firmly in charge of philly or is mazzone still the street boss? and if you are from philly and know some of these guys, do you think mazzone is more effective as a boss than merlino? merlino seems small time compared to some of the bosses that have come out of philly. i only know what i read on philly.


Merlino is still considered the Boss. Though a lot of people would agree that on the street; Mazzone has more respect. He's the go between the Merlino faction and Scarfo guys like the Narducci's and Pungitore's.


good info, thanks irishkaos. do you think the scarfo faction would rather deal with mazzone or merlino? i know alot of those guys were close to joeys dad but i always wondered what they truly thought of joey.


They thought of Joey as a punk kid, who if not for his dad probably would have went. They absolutely would rather deal with Mazzone and clearly do. I'm sure Ligambi also helped to make it a smooth transition for a lot of Scarfo guys coming home in recent years but from what most believe is that Merlino has no contact with any of the Scarfo Era guys. Maybe even one reason why when he got out, he setup in Boca Raton.

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is merlino firmly in charge of philly or is mazzone still the street boss? and if you are from philly and know some of these guys, do you think mazzone is more effective as a boss than merlino? merlino seems small time compared to some of the bosses that have come out of philly. i only know what i read on philly.


Merlino is still considered the Boss. Though a lot of people would agree that on the street; Mazzone has more respect. He's the go between the Merlino faction and Scarfo guys like the Narducci's and Pungitore's.


good info, thanks irishkaos. do you think the scarfo faction would rather deal with mazzone or merlino? i know alot of those guys were close to joeys dad but i always wondered what they truly thought of joey.


They thought of Joey as a punk kid, who if not for his dad probably would have went. They absolutely would rather deal with Mazzone and clearly do. I'm sure Ligambi also helped to make it a smooth transition for a lot of Scarfo guys coming home in recent years but from what most believe is that Merlino has no contact with any of the Scarfo Era guys. Maybe even one reason why when he got out, he setup in Boca Raton.


understood. especially if the scarfo contingent had issues with chucky merlino, I'm sure the old timers hold grudges until their dying day. is borgesi earning? last I heard, he wasn't happy with the current situation. he seems like a straight up punk

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If Nicodemo was gonna rat, he would have done it a long time ago. Being locked up for a year and then you snitch seems pretty dumb. I would think he would snitch after a few weeks or months...

He is from Philly so who knows...they are no bright down there.


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dinocrocetti:

Borgesi is earning. When he got out, he was causing problems because Marty Angelina had taken his Delco rackets over and he wanted to kill Angelina. Supposedly Merlino from Florida sided with Marty but then Ligambi was brought back into the mix to settle things. Borgesi had a social club at 11th and Jackson up until August, before it went up for sale. About the same time Merlino was indicted.

Borgesi has always had a reputation as a problem. Was once recorded boasting about knocking out fat Angelo Lutz.

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