your first movie on the list is selena???, more good than the godfather. are u kidding me?

Jackie Brown above GF & Scarface? that's a disgrace, Jackie Brown sucks, so overrated cuz Tarantino made it

anyway

1 Scarface
2 The Godfather
3 Goodfellaz

^^ Them 3 are my clear favourites, the rest go in any order

Friday
Heat
Taxi Driver
Carlito's Way
Training Day
Raging Bull
Pulp Fiction

1.scarface
2.carlitos way

1.scarface
2.carlitos way
3.serpico
4.dog day afternoon
4.godfther trilogy
6.donnie brasco
7.goodfellas.
8.casino
9.as good as it gets
10.willy wonka

THIS IS WITHOUT THE LISTS OF OWEN AND DAIGO MICK FRIEND

I can give all films they mentioned "5" points though...


1.THE GODFATHER _103 points
2.SCARFACE _81
3.THE GODFATHER PART II _73
4.PULP FICTION _58
5.MEMENTO _44
6.GOODFELLAS _42
7.FIGHT CLUB _36
8.THE USUAL SUSPECTS _25
9.THE RETURN OF THE KING _22
10.TAXI DRIVER _20
11.RESERVOIR DOGS & THE GODFATHER PART III _19
13.APOCALYPSE NOW _17
14.FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING & TWO TOWERS _16
16.GLADIATOR & RAGING BULL _15
18.CARLITO'S WAY _13
19.BEN-HUR & SNATCH _11


91 films mentioned
The Godfather Part II is the best on average (8,111) of all films with more than five votes

Over-rated? What the hell are you talking about it? All I hear is people bashing it 'cause it isn't "as good as Pulp and Dogs." It's a very clever, very good film. One of the best? No. Well made? Yes.

And did you notice me say that this is for FAVORITES, and not for what I perceive to be the best? I can think a film is better than another, but like one more. The Godfather is the best movie of all time, but I like Pulp Fiction better.

And hahahah, you say Jackie Brown sucks yet you mention Scarface? Scarface is good -- but that's over-rated.

I have watched so many movies that making this list was hard! This isnt even my final because as soon as I post this, I'll think of one that I love and didnt list
10. Godfather part 1
9. Road to Predition
8. Man on the Moon
7. Help
6. LOTR the fellowship of the ring
5. Dumb and Dumber
4. A Hard Days Night
3. My Girl
2. Forrest Gump
1. Scarface

I'd have to disagree with you there about Scarface. Compared to LOTR, Scarface is an unknown. But we all have our opinions, but I don't understand how Scarface is overrated? As for me, I said Jackie Brown was my favorite Tarintino movie because of Samuel L. Jackson & the dialogue. Plus it had a great cast (like all of his other films), but I loved Samuel L., Chris Tucker, and Robert De Niro! The movie is a little long, I'll give you that, but Samuel L. just cracks me up too much!

People say "Scarface is the best movie ever!" all the time. I hear it all the time, at least. And it's not even close to one of the all time greatest films. The Godfather, Pulp Fiction, Taxi Driver, etc... Those movies are considered "the best." Scarface doesn't rank up there for me. Sure, it's really good -- but one of the best? Not in my eyes.

People NEVER give Jackie Brown the credit it deserves... So how in the blue hell can it be over-rated?

I have to agree with you Anthony. I think Scarface is a perfect example of a film that does not pass the test of time. After 20 years to me it seems to be gaining some what of B movie quality. In another 20 years I see it becoming more of a goof movie with a cult like following. The Soundtrack, The look & feel of the film and even Pacino's over the top performance are not aging well. I compare it to a film like "Rebel Without a Cause". Rebel in it's day was considered a great film. Watch it now it is pretty much a comedy.

Usually when people say Scarface is the best movie of all time, they usually just mean that it's their favorite. I agree that Raging Bull, Goodfllas, etc are considered some of the best movies ever made, whereas Scarface is really a cult classic. As for Jackie Brown, I never said it was overrated. In fact, if anything it's underrated!

Nah, I hear people saying Scarface is the "best" in terms of quality and actually being the best film there is -- which is a complete pile of horse shit. Scarface is a GOOD movie, but the best? Nope. Therefore, it's over-rated, as I said earlier.

DaigoMickFriend -- right on, I agree. It's just getting to the point where it's gaining a following purely 'cause of it's surrounding.

IrishMan -- I didn't say you said it was over-rated; I was talking to Knocc Out who said Jackie Brown "sucks" and is "over-rated." I agree it's under-rated... How can a movie be over-rated when it's never said to even be good? Jackie Brown is always over-looked by Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs. Sure, PF and RD are better films, but Jackie Brown is still amazing and clever.

I coudln't agree with you more about Jackie being overlooked by Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, and now Kill Bill (which was probably my favorite movie of 2003, besides X2). How about you Anthony, what was your favorite movie of 2003? What's your favorite movie so far for 2004? Mines definately 21 grams! I hope Naomi wins the Oscar and I hope Benicio wins or is even nominated, because he should be! In terms of Scarface, I again agree, it's a GREAT movie, but not the best ever made...but it's my favorite!

2003 would have to be Kill Bill, of course. My favorite director. And I think QT did a great job with a new genre. He's used to crime epics such as PF, RD and JB, and his first attempt at a ninja-esque samuri movie was excellent. Clever, witty dialogue we know QT for, excellent story-telling, super-cool characters that seem to blister off the screen... Just all around great.

Of 2004? Probably Mystic River. It's made more of an impact for this year than last, with the Oscars and everything. It's a 2003 film, but as far as impact I'm putting it in my own category of 2004.

I'm going to see 21 Grams this Friday. Can't wait.

Enjoy, and let me know what you think about it!

among American "best off" lists you'll find all over, there a couple of films mentioned at the top so often, that it is almost (almost!!) fair to say these films ARE the best ever.

(btw these lists differ mostly in regard to the amount of 'classics' (pre 1960) in the list, like the AFI list who has a lot)

CITIZEN KANE
CASABLANCE
THE GODFATHER
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA
GONE WITH THE WIND
VERTIGO
2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
THE WIZARD OF OZ

here's the AFI list
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Screen/6601/

Years with most AFI films = 1939 (5)
Most Represented Directors=Steven Spielberg (5 )
Most Represented Actors= Robert Duvall (6)
Most Represented Actresses=Katherine Hepburn (5)

Color=39
Black and White=61
Silent=3

and quite often as well:
TAXI DRIVER
PSYCHO
APOCALYPSE NOW
SINGIN IN THE RAIN
THE GRADUATE
ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE
ON THE WATERFRONT
SOME LIKE IT HOT
SUNSET BLVD
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST

international films:
8 1/2
BATTLESHIP POTYEMKIN
LA DOLCE VITA
THE SEVEN SAMURAI
PERSONA
METROPOLIS
LA REGLE DU JEU
SUNRISE
RASHOMON
PASSION DE JEANNE D'ARC
BOUTTE DE SOUFFLE

the new top-ten-lists-overall-standings are:

The Godfather: 104
Scarface: 91
The Godfather II: 73
Pulp Fiction: 58
Memento: 44
Goodfellas: 42
Fight Club: 36
Usual Suspects: 25
Return of the King: 22
Fellowship of the Ring: 21

Have respect

1 Godfather
2 Godfather II
3 Chinatown
4 Lawrence of Arabia
5 Once Upon a Time in America
6 Ferris Buehler's Day Off
7 The Truman Show
8 Field of Dreams
9 Citizen Kane
10 Scarface

1. The GF Trilogy.
2. Raging Bull
3. Mean Streets
4. Goodfellas
5. Apocalypse Now (and Redux)
6. Laura
7. It's a Gift
8. Bride of Frankenstein
9. Duck Soup
10. Seconds

OVER 100 FILMS MENTIONED NOW!!!

1.The Godfather (124 points)
2.The Godfather part II & Scarface
4.Pulp Fiction
5.Goodfellas
6.Memento
7.Fight Club
8.The Godfather part III
9.Usual Suspects
10.Raging Bull (24 points)

1. GoodFellas (1990), Martin Scorcese
2. American History X (1998), Tony Kaye
3. Godfather Part 1 (1972), Francis Ford Coppola
4. Saturday Night Fever (1977),
5. The Green Mile (1999), Frank Darabont
6. The Great Escape (1963), John Sturges
7. Blow (2001), Ted Demme
8. Boogie Nights (1997), Paul Thomas Anderson
9. Scarface (1983), Brian De Palma
10. Heat (1995), Michael Mann

Scarface is extremely overrated, like Anthony Lombardi said.

It also gets quite old when you have rappers worshipping it as if it were the 21st century bible.

Yeh well, ain't nothing you can do about it. It's on the disc and it's not going no where, so I'll leave it at that. -Pat

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me. I dont wanna get into this thing about blacks and Scarface again but its pretty pathetic worshipping a movie.

Okay, let's not get into this argument again.

Here is my top ten and I recommend them all to everyone....

The Godfather
The Godfather Part Two
Fight Club
Apocalypse Now
Memento
Pulp Fiction
Raging Bull
Seven Samurai
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
American Beauty

My top 10 has been updated:

Taxi Driver has been moved from #6 to #5 and Ben Hur has been moved from spot #7 to #6. Good the Bad and the ugly has been moved back to #7.

I kno nobody cares, but I was bored.

Hahah, it's cool, RaggingBull. I always switch mine around, so I care.

CK -- very good list! Glad to see another Pulp Fiction/Fight Club fan!

Exact orders are difficult to make, but the top ten are these:

The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
Goodfellas
Casino
On the Waterfront
American Graffiti
Saving Private Ryan
Citizen Kane
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Lawrence of Arabia

Here's my updated Top 13 list...

1. Casablanca
2. Gone With The Wind
3. Scarface
4. Annie Hall
5. Duck Soup
6. Breathless
7. Singin' In The Rain
8. Pulp Fiction
9. Seven Samurai
10. The Battle Of Algiers
11. Brazil
12. Citizen Kane
13. The Godfather Part I and II

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