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Patty Testa Murder #898613
11/15/16 12:09 AM
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Was anything officially proven on this murder as to who ordered it and why?

Or; Still the unofficial speculation that Casso ordered the hit as a hidden sacrifice to give the Lucchese Family a visible reason to attempt a hit on Nicky Corozzo and/or Junior Gotti to cause instability within the Gambino Family. I know those hits never happened because Casso got picked up before they could be carried out, but was that not the reason Testa ultimately was killing?

Re: Patty Testa Murder [Re: AllDay27] #898636
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I remeber someone in the the guy big frank lastorino family wrote to capeci he had nothing to do with pat testa murder and that there familys have bee. Friends for longtime. It was written casso had big frank do the shooting. He must have really wanted to clear the air to reach out to capeci.

Re: Patty Testa Murder [Re: AllDay27] #898651
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I read it was an attempt by Casso to undermine Vic's leadership, as Patty was Vic's messaggero.


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Re: Patty Testa Murder [Re: Moe_Tilden] #898663
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
I read it was an attempt by Casso to undermine Vic's leadership, as Patty was Vic's messaggero.


That was the word on the street at the time.

Re: Patty Testa Murder [Re: Moe_Tilden] #898769
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There was my question so to speak. Was it the beginning of Casso undermining Vic or was there a honest attempt to cause infighting within the Gambino's and this was a sacrifice play to merit an excuse to attempt the hits never carried out on Nicky Corozzo/Jr. Gotti?

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He must have did something to piss casso off even the people that killed him. Lil al darco telling on everyone in that family around when hes murder. Thats so fucked up lets whack are guy to start a war with another family just doesn't make sense.

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Just talking out loud but, any though on Casso ordering some of the hits he ordered that seemed questionable because they were guys within the family that may have had the juice to challenge for the top spot while Vic & Gas were on the run. Patty Testa although a long shot to have run a family was well known and well respected, tight with many top level guys in several families and was a notorious earner. Same way I've always felt about the Bruno Facciolo hit, it always seemed like it was done because he was a powerful guy who could have rallied troops behind him. I feel similarly about Pete Chiodo, he became too feared, and too much of an earner and may have been seen to challenge Casso for authority so was ordered dead. If Casso really did have the "crystal ball" which we now know that he did, it makes you wonder why he killed so many well reputed and respected guys who were never actually thought to be informants via Eppolito and Carracappa.

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Lastorino had some balls. He walks in Testa's car dealership during working hours and kills him. He also put 10 rounds in Bobby Borello in front of his house in broad daylight.

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Feds around new england are solving all these old 90tys murder surprised the ny office isnt looking in to a case like this.

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Dam celtics are losing by 30.

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Originally Posted By: AllDay27
Just talking out loud but, any though on Casso ordering some of the hits he ordered that seemed questionable because they were guys within the family that may have had the juice to challenge for the top spot while Vic & Gas were on the run. Patty Testa although a long shot to have run a family was well known and well respected, tight with many top level guys in several families and was a notorious earner. Same way I've always felt about the Bruno Facciolo hit, it always seemed like it was done because he was a powerful guy who could have rallied troops behind him. I feel similarly about Pete Chiodo, he became too feared, and too much of an earner and may have been seen to challenge Casso for authority so was ordered dead. If Casso really did have the "crystal ball" which we now know that he did, it makes you wonder why he killed so many well reputed and respected guys who were never actually thought to be informants via Eppolito and Carracappa.

The only thing they feared about Chiodo, was that he was gonna flip. He was under multiple indictments at the time and the Administration didn't feel challenged by him in that respect. Testa was another matter. It's still a bit of a mystery. I believe Casso whacked him for 2 reasons, maybe 3. Number 1, he was jealous of Patty who was very close to Vic and was a fast rising star in the family. Number 2, chaos was going on, everyone was flipping and Casso was trying to whack anybody not in his close circle, and Number 3. He wanted to say Patty's murder was committed by the Gambino family over some old wounds of when he was an associate of that family and use it as an incentive to take out Jr. Gotti and Nicky Corozzo.

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Originally Posted By: GerryLang
Lastorino had some balls. He walks in Testa's car dealership during working hours and kills him. He also put 10 rounds in Bobby Borello in front of his house in broad daylight.


Pretty sure Lastorino only set up the hit, always heard James Froggy Galione(whose dad Ralphie Wigs did the hit on McBratney and later killed by Gotti) did the hit.

Re: Patty Testa Murder [Re: pmac] #898972
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Dam celtics are losing by 30.


What?? uhwhat
Vintage Pmac random shit.. LOL


FORTIS FORTUNA IUVAT
Re: Patty Testa Murder [Re: BillyBrizzi] #898994
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: pmac
Dam celtics are losing by 30.


What?? uhwhat
Vintage Pmac random shit.. LOL


This is your brain on drugs.


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