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Re: Thomas "Pee Wee" De Phillips
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How was possible that a man with the surname De Phillips was a genovese capo ? Maybe the surname was de filippi ? I was thinking the same thing Furio, I guess the family name got changed at Ellis Island or something, I've read that this happened a lot back then.
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Re: Thomas "Pee Wee" De Phillips
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10/07/16 04:23 PM
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How was possible that a man with the surname De Phillips was a genovese capo ? Maybe the surname was de filippi ? Furio a lot of Italians changed their names when they came over. It is said that people at Ellis island changed the names to make them more Americanized but I heard that's a myth and people did it themselves. Not sure. A good example... The creator of the sopranos David chase's last name is actually DeCesare but his family changed it. A good friend of mine from Passaic last name Rainer was actually Rainieri, Pasquin from Pasquini (the family owned car dealerships and they sold out) my father always had some not so nice things to say about Italians who changed their names to sound American. Not sure how DePhillips got his changed but you're right it was probably DeFillipo or DeFillipi.
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Re: Thomas "Pee Wee" De Phillips
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10/07/16 06:07 PM
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Pee wee lived in belleville on the corner of belleville ave near clara maas hospital. He took over andy gerards old crew and was a bloomfield avenue guy. He was with sal cetruolo, skippy, and phil denoia, and a bunch of other guys. Belmont ... Belleville ave and franklin ave ? There's the golf course and the the old hospital or whatever it was. I'm just trying to figure out where he lived. I used to live off washington on Rutgers before we moved to Bloomfield. I'm a big Michael v's guy. I used to live off their eggplant, fresh mooz, and roasted pepps sandwichs.
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Re: Thomas "Pee Wee" De Phillips
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10/08/16 06:24 AM
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How was possible that a man with the surname De Phillips was a genovese capo ? Maybe the surname was de filippi ? Furio a lot of Italians changed their names when they came over. It is said that people at Ellis island changed the names to make them more Americanized but I heard that's a myth and people did it themselves. Not sure. A good example... The creator of the sopranos David chase's last name is actually DeCesare but his family changed it. A good friend of mine from Passaic last name Rainer was actually Rainieri, Pasquin from Pasquini (the family owned car dealerships and they sold out) my father always had some not so nice things to say about Italians who changed their names to sound American. Not sure how DePhillips got his changed but you're right it was probably DeFillipo or DeFillipi. Or maybe the people wrongly transcripted the italian surnames. Al capone dad had caponi surname but was written capone because the e was spelled i. For example the name giuseppe is spelled giuseppi. At the end I think that the italian that americanizated their surnames was few respect the case in which the surname was wrongly transcripted. And for me changed the surname is a betrayl of the origins.
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Re: Thomas "Pee Wee" De Phillips
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10/08/16 07:20 AM
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How was possible that a man with the surname De Phillips was a genovese capo ? Maybe the surname was de filippi ? Furio a lot of Italians changed their names when they came over. It is said that people at Ellis island changed the names to make them more Americanized but I heard that's a myth and people did it themselves. Not sure. A good example... The creator of the sopranos David chase's last name is actually DeCesare but his family changed it. A good friend of mine from Passaic last name Rainer was actually Rainieri, Pasquin from Pasquini (the family owned car dealerships and they sold out) my father always had some not so nice things to say about Italians who changed their names to sound American. Not sure how DePhillips got his changed but you're right it was probably DeFillipo or DeFillipi. And for me changed the surname is a betrayl of the origins. Exactly what I was taught by my father and I agree. You're name is your history and what you come from. Why would anyone want to change that? To each his own I guess.
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Re: Thomas "Pee Wee" De Phillips
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Re: Thomas "Pee Wee" De Phillips
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Before my time but I'd like to hear more info on him as well. i live in bloomfield and still hit the ave for calandras, luigi's and I'm going to the tavern tonight as matter of fact. I was locked up with old man DiNoia's brother. Poor guy, he's like 80, csnt walk, gets locked up for like Pissing in public and petty shit like that and he still does the county thing every 6-12 months at his age. I talked to him about the old days but he was like in and out of it. Bobby- Have you been to that new bar on the Avenue in Bloomfield that's simply called "The Bar" yet? I've been meaning to try it out one Sunday for Football.....If you've been before, how is it? Haven't been there Dante. I rarely go out for football anymore. My son has swim class 1130 Sunday mornings, then on the way home I pick up bread and pastries and head home for football and Sunday dinner with the family. Sorry Don Cheech. We get sidetracked sometimes. If anyone has anymore in depth info on Pee Wee I would appreciate it as well.
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