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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: blueracing347]
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09/05/16 12:04 PM
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Belmont
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Sammy used Gotti's bad mouthing as an excuse. He would of turned if Gotti called him the best thing since macoroni. He never did any time and didnt want to spend the rest of his life in prison. He knew they were dead to rights and im sure the governement had much more on gravano than what we read in the papers, same with locascio. Although locascio should have only received 5-10 years not life.
Same goes for leonetti, he would of cooperated no matter what. He didnt want to spend all that time in prison. Prison is not a fun place no matter who you are with behind bars. In all the pics we see of mob guys in prison, smiling and hanging out with a bunch of guys,trust me, they are miserable but just making the best out of a really bad sutuation. Dont believe the smiles in those photo's..
Of course doing a short stint will make things much better.
Last edited by Belmont; 09/05/16 01:06 PM.
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: Belmont]
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09/05/16 12:35 PM
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BillyBrizzi
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Same goes for leonetti, he would of cooperated no matter what. He didnt want to spend all that time in prison. Leonetti is the only cooperator who's story I believe. He didn't want his son to get involved in the life, the same way he got involved. He was already doing stuff for his cousin while Phil was in jail. His son, Phillip jr., finished med school and is now a doctor. The other reason I believe him is that he hasn't been involved in a crime whatsoever since. Unless he's a criminal mastermind and gets away with everything, which I don't believe because like I said he's the only one who's story I truly believe..
FORTIS FORTUNA IUVAT
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: Belmont]
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09/05/16 12:43 PM
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BobbyPazzo
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Sammy used Gotti's bad mouthing as an excuse. He would of turned if Gotti called him the best thing since macoroni. He never did any time and didnt want to spend the rest of his life in prison. He knew they were dead to rights and im sure the governement had much more on gravano than what we read in the papers, same with locascio. Although locascio should have only received 5-10 years not life.
Same goes for leonetti, he would of cooperated no matter what. He didnt want to spend all that time in prison. Prison is not a fun place no matter who you are with behind bars. In all the pics we see if mob guys in prison, smiling and hanging out with a bunch of guys,trust me, they are miserable but just making the best iut if a really bad sutuation. Dont believe the smiles in those photo's..
Of course doing a short stint will make things much better, Yea u got guys who will make your time easier because you're tight with them and u can confide in them but at the end of the day there's no pussy, u shit in close wuarters with another man, and the list goes on. It's miserable.
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: BillyBrizzi]
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09/05/16 01:06 PM
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alicecooper
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Same goes for leonetti, he would of cooperated no matter what. He didnt want to spend all that time in prison. Leonetti is the only cooperator who's story I believe. He didn't want his son to get involved in the life, the same way he got involved. He was already doing stuff for his cousin while Phil was in jail. His son, Phillip jr., finished med school and is now a doctor. The other reason I believe him is that he hasn't been involved in a crime whatsoever since. Unless he's a criminal mastermind and gets away with everything, which I don't believe because like I said he's the only one who's story I truly believe.. Phil would have been passed around like a fifty cent hooker in the joint and he knew it. He would have ratted and used the same story even if he was facing 1/4 of the time. And how he says he got out for his son bullshit. Had he not gotten busted you think he would have turned just out of the goodness of his heart to save his son? Yeah right. Had he not got caught he would still be at it on the streets and loving it. This guy is 100% full of shit no matter how you cut it. It's no surprise he hasn't been busted for anything since they let the piece of shit keep like $3 million to start fresh with. Maybe he's just not as dumb as gravano who is a complete fucking moron.
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: blueracing347]
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09/05/16 06:41 PM
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Just my thoughts but Gravano was just a little bit more shrewd and always knew he could broker a deal with the Feds after he was pinched. He was able to play Tough Guy when he was free and walking around , and always knew he would be able to RAT if and when he was not able to beat the charges. I don't believe that he was ever a tough guy period ! For Christsakes he was a Friggin Hairstylist before he was made.
wise old owl sat on a oak , the more he heard the less he spoke , the less he spoke the more he heard , wasn't that a wise ole bird.
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: BillyBrizzi]
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09/05/16 06:46 PM
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Tonytough
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Same goes for leonetti, he would of cooperated no matter what. He didnt want to spend all that time in prison. Leonetti is the only cooperator who's story I believe. He didn't want his son to get involved in the life, the same way he got involved. He was already doing stuff for his cousin while Phil was in jail. His son, Phillip jr., finished med school and is now a doctor. The other reason I believe him is that he hasn't been involved in a crime whatsoever since. Unless he's a criminal mastermind and gets away with everything, which I don't believe because like I said he's the only one who's story I truly believe.. Sorry don't take this personally but u must be very easily led in life- to believe them "lies" Leonetti's kid was a teen I believe- when Phil flipped. IF he wanted to help his son so much, he wouldn't have been a gangster in the first place U do realise that by staying alive is the best way to make sure the kid grows up away from the life Well how would he do that considering he was a gangster either killing people or being marked for death. Which is why the "I did it for my son" is complete BS. He didn't want to do 50 yrs in the can- simple as that. Plus someone else will have to come along and take care of his "beautiful girlfriend" whilst he's in the can getting pummelled and choked by some big black guys
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: downtown]
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09/05/16 07:05 PM
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Tonytough
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Just my thoughts but Gravano was just a little bit more shrewd and always knew he could broker a deal with the Feds after he was pinched. He was able to play Tough Guy when he was free and walking around , and always knew he would be able to RAT if and when he was not able to beat the charges. I don't believe that he was ever a tough guy period ! For Christsakes he was a Friggin Hairstylist before he was made. Most guys that enrol on hairdressing courses are gay. My girlfriend is on a course and 99.9% are female Now if he wanted to become a barber then fine but he himself said he was cutting woman's hair day and night It's not common to find a wannabe gangster/ tough guy cutting woman's hair and talking to them about the weather
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: blueracing347]
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09/05/16 07:25 PM
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Past caring, then hang a left
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I've known a few straight male hairdressers/colorists. They get more ass than a toilet seat.
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All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: downtown]
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09/05/16 08:01 PM
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Binnie_Coll
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Just my thoughts but Gravano was just a little bit more shrewd and always knew he could broker a deal with the Feds after he was pinched. He was able to play Tough Guy when he was free and walking around , and always knew he would be able to RAT if and when he was not able to beat the charges. I don't believe that he was ever a tough guy period ! For Christsakes he was a Friggin Hairstylist before he was made. downtown. I think you are spot on with this post, Sammy was always untrustworthy, and gottis biggest mistake was not whacking this snitch.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: helenwheels]
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09/05/16 08:15 PM
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Tonytough
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I've known a few straight male hairdressers/colorists. They get more ass than a toilet seat.
Of course, the same way I know a few straight priests
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: BillyBrizzi]
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09/06/16 01:13 AM
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n.e.philly
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Same goes for leonetti, he would of cooperated no matter what. He didnt want to spend all that time in prison. Leonetti is the only cooperator who's story I believe. He didn't want his son to get involved in the life, the same way he got involved. He was already doing stuff for his cousin while Phil was in jail. His son, Phillip jr., finished med school and is now a doctor. The other reason I believe him is that he hasn't been involved in a crime whatsoever since. Unless he's a criminal mastermind and gets away with everything, which I don't believe because like I said he's the only one who's story I truly believe.. I second that.
I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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Re: Why did Gravano rat?
[Re: Footreads]
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09/06/16 07:08 AM
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Tonytough
ba da bing
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Gianni Russo from Goodfather 1 worked in a hair saloon to get girls. No one ever called him gay. A young Gianni had gay written all over him
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