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DB Cooper #887991
07/17/16 09:25 AM
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Good Morning Gang,

So I was watching this two part special on cable entitled "D.B. Cooper: Case Closed?" It really went into the mystery behind the mythical hijacker who flew under the alias "Dan Cooper". I feel the two part special missed the mark. Towards the end of the special, too much attention I think was given to DB Cooper suspect Robert Rackstraw. Obviously, DB Cooper was one Richard Floyd McCoy Jr. who pulled off a similar skyjack caper less than a year later, and was killed in a shootout with FBI agents not long thence.

The reasons McCoy was ruled out boil down to hearsay and eyewitness testimony. But the eyewitness testimony in my humble opinion is suspect. In my estimation it is entirely possible DB Cooper had help from at least one stewardess and maybe the pilot, based on the strange comments attributed to plane crew. The cable special also featured eyewitness testimony of a passenger who witnessed the initial meeting between DB Cooper and the flight attendant. The meeting was peculiar and made the passenger suspicious, seemingly of both Cooper and the attendant. That was supposed to be the moment Cooper passed the ransom note to the flight attendant.

If the flight attendant was in on it, why would she correctly identify Cooper? She wouldn't. She would rule Floyd McCoy out.

In my humble opinion, Floyd McCoy is the only suspect that actually looks like the DB Cooper composite sketch. He also possessed the training and criminal history to not only be able to pull off such a hijacking, but the criminal history of actually having successfully done so.

For those unfamiliar with the subject, Wikipedia summarizes the crime below:

"D. B. Cooper is a media epithet popularly used to refer to an unidentified man who hijacked a Boeing 727 aircraft in the airspace between Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington, on November 24, 1971, extorted $200,000 in ransom (equivalent to $1,170,000 in 2015), and parachuted to an uncertain fate. Despite an extensive manhunt and protracted FBI investigation, the perpetrator has never been located or identified."


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Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888009
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What does this have to do with the mob?

Was DB Cooper made or something? whistle

Re: DB Cooper [Re: Blackjack2121] #888011
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
What does this have to do with the mob?

Was DB Cooper made or something? whistle



We don't know his real identity, so he could have been, for all we know. lol

Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888020
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Made guys do not parachute out of moving planes... Buildings yes minus the chute

Re: DB Cooper [Re: Blackjack2121] #888028
07/18/16 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
What does this have to do with the mob?

Was DB Cooper made or something? whistle



Fair question.

Since this section is about organized crime, and DB Cooper might have had inside help to pull off his hijacking, I thought this section was appropriate for introducing this particular topic.

This section of the website may cover all crime, as long as it falls under either Mafia or conspiracy. The DB Cooper skyjacking may have been a conspiracy between multiple actors. It would've been prosecuted under RICO today.

By the way, this particular crime is very controversial, on the order of the JFK hit. When I did a search of this site, I was very surprised to not find any mention of DB Cooper.


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Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888087
07/19/16 05:17 AM
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My cousin said that had read on wiki that Phillip Carlo in an unpublished book said that Kuklinski confessed that db Cooper was him.
Jerry Ortega also said that was a retilian alieni that did the historycal and fled away to his astroship.

Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888089
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Wrong Furio!!! It was Frank Sheeran who was DB Cooper, know your facts SMH wink

Last edited by BillyBrizzi; 07/19/16 05:36 AM.

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Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888099
07/19/16 09:12 AM
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Billy and Furio, come on. I thought you guys were aficionados of criminal history.

This topic is for those who like to discuss criminal conspiracies and "who dunnit?"

If you read into how this DB Cooper actually executed his skyjacking, it fascinates. He was not a noob or an amateur, at all.


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Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888100
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I am Alfa, I was only kidding.

It is fascinating without a doubt, but I'm afraid the world will never know who DB Cooper really was..


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Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888113
07/19/16 02:21 PM
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Im agree with Billy we was kidding and for sure db Cooper is dead and like the zodiacale killer won't know the real identity.

Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888156
07/20/16 09:18 AM
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Well, I suggest you guys watch the documentary on DB and then get back here. lol

It's gotta be Floyd McCoy. smile


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Re: DB Cooper [Re: Alfa Romeo] #888171
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I'm not even sure the dude survived the jump.

Re: DB Cooper [Re: dixiemafia] #888259
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I'm not even sure the dude survived the jump.


It was an awesome jump. He knew the plane. DB commanded the ship's crew to put the flaps down and slow the plane down to something like 120 mph at just 10000 feet. Then he jumps down into clouds at night with zero visibility of the ground....wearing nothng but loafers and a trench coat. He had a parachute of course, but no helmet. On top of all of that, the windchill in the atmosphere at that speed was supposedly something like -70F.

Of course when he jumped, the crew was up front in the cockpit and never saw him actually leap out of the plane. That's why no one knows exactly where DB jumped....or landed. If the crew was in on it, he might have had a helmet smuggled on board by one of them to increase his chances of success. The fact that the crew never saw him jump and had no idea where he jumped lends more circumstantial evidence to the theory that DB had accomplices on board.

I think he made it.


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What did the doc say about all that old rotting money that kid found by that river?

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I haven't seen the documentary but I think he at least survived the jump cause they've found buried money a couple times now haven't they?

Re: DB Cooper [Re: Chance] #888313
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Originally Posted By: Chance
I haven't seen the documentary but I think he at least survived the jump cause they've found buried money a couple times now haven't they?


Yes they did find the money, a portion of it. But no DB Cooper, which if it was a simple case of him having a bad jump and being killed on impact, something more than money would have been discovered, somewhere.

Originally Posted By: salvi62
What did the doc say about all that old rotting money that kid found by that river?


Here's the thing about the money:

It wasn't all found, just a small portion of it. It was wrapped in rubber bands, which would have long ago disintegrated were they the original wrapping holding the money together. That means a) It was buried long after the crime, and b) someone knew the money was hot. The goverment was searching the entire world for those serial numbers to pop up somewhere, anywhere.


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