Salvi.

Cops have been murdered by mobsters who got off scot free so it goes both ways.

Your concern for the dog is touching Ivey, lol

All cops are like that? You know how absurd that sounds? Here's a suggestion - rather than blame law enforcement as the bad guys, try not doing those things that get you put behind bars to begin with. And I have to sympathize with prison guards. I have a friend who is one. They have to work with the dregs of society every day.



Nice try but I haven't started anything here. Unlike the organized crime-related thread YOU hijacked with your BS liberal politics, this thread has nothing to do with organized crime. And Footreads mentioned people who were trying to get others to sign a petition against the death penalty. Probably wasn't conservatives doing that. So run along before YOU screw up ANOTHER thread with your crap.

Because the state allesys pumps up and relishes one of their own, it is what it is , lol

A CO job in a F'd up prison is rough. All day every day your in some shit. There are a lot of suicides in jail . Not having direct exposure to that allows us reg folks like us to shrug it off but seeing stuff like that , dealing directly with the body stays in their mind . COs have a for real messed up job and the top rule I've been told is never do something dirty for a prisoner as you are owned after that, obviously not everyone follows this, lol. The amount of lawsuits even amongst employees make that job a shake down attempt from all angles. All those guys looking for the quick pension settlement every second . It's just bad all around for everyone there

Skinny J had a lot of respect when he was in Hudson

Scum. Pure scum. Ivy and whoever else you are out of line, per the usual. You want nazi camp life? Already being exploited for profit. No one is living large like that anymore, people are suffering trust me. Being locked up sucks, and you are forced to work for pennies already. Guards in Yardville are terrible, constantly harassing a bunch of scared vulnerable kids. Guards in Craf are literally the worst. Guards in Camden county really not that bad. If I ever saw "Mrs. Mack" from Craf on the street I'd spit in her face. hit that bitch with my car or something.

the fact you speak more harshly of correction officers than the criminals tells me all I need to know about you.

That was the topic of the thread, until you hijacked it.

The OP asked how prison guards assault inmates and get away with it. Then, you changed the subject to the inmates' guilt and the heroism of the guards. You could start your own thread and talk about how great prison guards are and how "scummy" convicts are. That wasn't the topic here. We're talking about crooked and abusive guards, because they obviously do exist. If you don't want to discuss that, why bother responding at all?

It's crazy how people take a thread and make it something else. Seems they have tunnel vision and live in a bubble. Ivey, I have steered clear of confrontation with you on many issues because I try to respect everyone's opinion and I keep in mind not everyone is familiar with how things REALLY are. I have said already that I have family and friends in law enforcement and even corrections although not many in the latter. You speak as if ALL inmates are animals and deserve harsh conditions and treatment. You can go to prison or jail for a lot of things. There is a reason you are classified once you are incarcerated. The point of this thread is the abuse of power and the physical abuse issued by CO's and it happens more times than not. I've witnessed it. I've seen it happen whether it was provoked or not. You have corrections officers in gangs, that sell drugs that they bring into the prison, that engage in sexual activity, and they feel they have the right to do so. There are most definetly guys who have integrity and handle themselves the way they SWORE they would. I understand there are sick fucks behind the wall and it is not an easy job. But, if they cannot handle the conditions inside an institution for which they knew they would be subjected to and that the job would entail then they should find a different line of work. There are rules. You are basically saying that they should not follow the rules that they have been instructed to follow because they are dealing with bad people and it is a difficult job doing so. Well then that means that THEY are breaking the law. You know what you sign up for when you get into corrections. There is zero excuse for abuse and barbaric treatment of inmates. NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE! You have a code and rules as a corrections officer that you are expected to follow and they often do not abide by those rules. You can feel things should be different and these guys should be able to beat on , deprive of basic human needs, or whatever you feel is right. But, the fact of the matter is, that isn't the way it is. They do what they want and they are wrong for it. This isn't rocket science.

i don't even enjoy this shit anymore. There's becoming less and less threads without any bullshit involved. Everyone is a saint but they sit and talk about OC all fucking day. Get the fuck outta here.

I'm as pro cop/co/le as any criminal will ever be. They are a necessityin our society, and in my opinion should be given greater rights. Stop and frisk in NYC? Absolutely. Carding in Toronto? I'm the biggest supporter.

However, prison guards are a different breed. There's something about dealing with literal maniacs 24/7 that drives you a little off the wall. The lack of accountability and the jurisdiction they have over themselves is grotesque. Even here in soft little baby Canada

That was the topic of the thread, until you hijacked it.

The OP asked how prison guards assault inmates and get away with it. Then, you changed the subject to the inmates' guilt and the heroism of the guards. You could start your own thread and talk about how great prison guards are and how "scummy" convicts are. That wasn't the topic here. We're talking about crooked and abusive guards, because they obviously do exist. If you don't want to discuss that, why bother responding at all?

It's crazy how people take a thread and make it something else. Seems they have tunnel vision and live in a bubble. Ivey, I have steered clear of confrontation with you on many issues because I try to respect everyone's opinion and I keep in mind not everyone is familiar with how things REALLY are. I have said already that I have family and friends in law enforcement and even corrections although not many in the latter. You speak as if ALL inmates are animals and deserve harsh conditions and treatment. You can go to prison or jail for a lot of things. There is a reason you are classified once you are incarcerated. The point of this thread is the abuse of power and the physical abuse issued by CO's and it happens more times than not. I've witnessed it. I've seen it happen whether it was provoked or not. You have corrections officers in gangs, that sell drugs that they bring into the prison, that engage in sexual activity, and they feel they have the right to do so. There are most definetly guys who have integrity and handle themselves the way they SWORE they would. I understand there are sick fucks behind the wall and it is not an easy job. But, if they cannot handle the conditions inside an institution for which they knew they would be subjected to and that the job would entail then they should find a different line of work. There are rules. You are basically saying that they should not follow the rules that they have been instructed to follow because they are dealing with bad people and it is a difficult job doing so. Well then that means that THEY are breaking the law. You know what you sign up for when you get into corrections. There is zero excuse for abuse and barbaric treatment of inmates. NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE! You have a code and rules as a corrections officer that you are expected to follow and they often do not abide by those rules. You can feel things should be different and these guys should be able to beat on , deprive of basic human needs, or whatever you feel is right. But, the fact of the matter is, that isn't the way it is. They do what they want and they are wrong for it. This isn't rocket science.

Ivy advocates cruel and unusual punishment.

I thought you were a stickler for the Constitution, Ivy? Or is that only when it benefits your argument?

Meh, easy to clamor for harsher prisons when one hasn't ever set a foot in any jail to visit, much less serve time in one, and the point about cruel and unusual punishment that was just brought up is pretty valid imo.

Lastly, support for the DP isn't some conservative core belief.

It's what he does. Constantly push his conservative moral agenda. This thread like you said is about guards who abuse inmates. As a person who was verbally and physically abused by NJ prison guards, I come here and share my thoughts, and try to stop ivy from his usual derail. What I get is him responding " the fact that you speak more harshly of the guards tells me all I need to know." Well you dont know me or what I have been through,andeverything you think you know about prison is probably things youve read or saw on TV or movies. Also I hope someone stabs your friend who is a CO. I seriously mean that. Fuck that guy and his life. Have a nice day

Meh, easy to clamor for harsher prisons when one hasn't ever set a foot in any jail to visit, much less serve time in one, and the point about cruel and unusual punishment that was just brought up is pretty valid imo.

Lastly, support for the DP isn't some conservative core belief.

Ivy League, you had to have been a cop. Only cops are this stubborn and self righteous. They must teach you guys at the academy how to effectively troll on the internet and make peoples' blood curl.