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Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #885868
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Social Justice Warriors, Third Wave Feminists and Professional Victims would make great band names, btw.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: OakAsFan] #885879
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
A guy getting punched for no reason while in custody of security seems pretty violent.


Yeah, that's wrong no matter what.

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: Fleming_Ave] #885885
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Originally Posted By: Fleming_Ave
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A guy getting punched for no reason while in custody of security seems pretty violent.


Yeah, that's wrong no matter what regardless of party committing.


Violence is wrong.

Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Social Justice Warriors, Third Wave Feminists and Professional Victims would make great band names, btw.


Fair enough. Thank you for reinforcing F1's earlier post I should have followed his (only assuming F1 is male apologies other wise) lead, "Some people like to discuss facts and truths, and others like to emote nonsense. I'll let you figure out which category you're in, and have a nice day."

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Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #885888
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Reinforcing F1's will make you go through a lot of keyboards.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #885889
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Uninterested in exchanging ideas. Dismissive of opposing view points and never addresses arguments directly. You're a bad stereotype.

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #885892
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Believe me, I'm trying to take some of the ideas here seriously. It all kind of derailed with the whole Ronald Reagan = gangbuster thing, which is hilarious.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: OakAsFan] #885903
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Believe me, I'm trying to take some of the ideas here seriously. It all kind of derailed with the whole Ronald Reagan = gangbuster thing, which is hilarious.


Now you want to go back rewrite the history of this thread?

It's not my fault you weren't even aware of The Reagan administration's efforts against organized crime. You apparently didn't even know if he mentioned the mob while he was in the White House. Nor did you care. From the start, your entire purpose in this thread has been to be a Democrat shill, ignoring the historical facts related to the original post, and simply try and score partisan points in a political debate. Trying to give credit for the onslaught against the mob that came about in the 1980s, during Reagan's tenure, to what the Kennedys did 20 years before. Give me a break. That's what detailed this thread. Your bullshit.

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Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #885908
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Ivy, yes President Reagan was in office then. But it was really Guiliani as US Attorney who started to use RICO to run down the NYC families. That is why mob guys get put away all the time now.

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #885933
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Doesn't G. Robert Blakey deserve a lot of credit too?


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Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: IvyLeague] #885938
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"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: Fleming_Ave] #885939
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Originally Posted By: Fleming_Ave
Ivy, yes President Reagan was in office then. But it was really Guiliani as US Attorney who started to use RICO to run down the NYC families. That is why mob guys get put away all the time now.


And, it was Robert F Kennedy who restructured the justice department to not only prioritize the mafia, but to even recognize its existence! Without RFK, none of the following presidents or US attorneys have the tools.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: OakAsFan] #885942
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Originally Posted By: Fleming_Ave
Ivy, yes President Reagan was in office then. But it was really Guiliani as US Attorney who started to use RICO to run down the NYC families. That is why mob guys get put away all the time now.



Yes, there were several people who deserved credit. Robert Morhenthau (even before Giuliani) for example. And of course Blakey and McClellan who he gave the real credit for RICO. I'm not saying he was the only one but, on a national scale, the Reagan administration was a significant part of the renewed efforts against organized crime in the 1980s. Apparently some people weren't aware of this and want to give most of the credit to the Kennedys (for blatantly partisan reasons and nothing else) despite that was 20 years before and there was a big lull in the fight against the mob through the rest of the 1960s and the 1970s.

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Anyone still doubting this guy has detailed this thread?

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Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: OakAsFan] #885943
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
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And you're the most partisan person in this thread. So I guess you win the partisan war that amounts to nothing. You still never addressed any of my arguments and alot of the ones others have posted either.

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: SoCalGangs] #885947
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Partisan battle, maybe. The war goes on.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: Fleming_Ave] #885960
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Originally Posted By: Fleming_Ave
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Who do you think teaches all this Far Left ethnic studies crap that indoctrinates modern theories of "whiteness" radical feminism, Marxism and deconstructionism, minority victimization and bullying?


How many college kids actually study ethnic studies or women's studies or things like that? I think most college kids are studying things like business because they want to make money. I don't think an "Ethnic Studies" professor has a lot of influence outside the campus, it's kinda irrelevant because not that many people study it. Not that many people care about it.


In colleges and universities across America students are forced to take Far Left "diversity training" courses that include sections on "Whiteness Studies," radical feminism, and other forms of modern victimization. So students are taught this Far Left form of ethnic studies without actually taking the courses. So it's not irrelevant. And clearly you've ignored the mass protests (which often include acts of violence) at Harvard, Princeton, UCLA, UCI, University of Missouri, etc. They force out professors who don't agree with them. Go to a site called "Campus Reform" which lists example after egregious example. In California the Democratic legislature is about to pass a bill that would force religious colleges and universities to adopt LGBTQ policies or face punishment, in clear violation of the First Amendment. So I'd suggest instead of just guessing what students are doing across the country, research it. There are also plenty of videos on YouTube documenting that these "protests" include violence.

http://www.campusreform.org/

Here is one example cited in the Huffington Post (lest you falsely accused this of being Fox News created hysteria): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mirah-riben/end-the-witch-hunt-in-def_b_8539402.html

There are plenty of other examples. All you have to do is look.

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: SoCalGangs] #885961
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Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs
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And you're the most partisan person in this thread. So I guess you win the partisan war that amounts to nothing. You still never addressed any of my arguments and alot of the ones others have posted either.


Isn't it hilarious that his idea of evidence is posting a Democratic Party meme? ROFL

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: OakAsFan] #885965
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan


And, it was Robert F Kennedy who restructured the justice department to not only prioritize the mafia, but to even recognize its existence! Without RFK, none of the following presidents or US attorneys have the tools.


Absolutely correct, but sadly his brother's death put a stop to his work before he could really hurt the mob.

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Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: Faithful1] #885968
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All you have to do is look...at right wing websites that exaggerate and embellish in their examples.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
All you have to do is look...at right wing websites that exaggerate and embellish in their examples.


Yeah, that Huffington Post is sooo right wing. LOL

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Originally Posted By: Faithful1


Yeah, that Huffington Post is sooo right wing. LOL


Wasn't Andrew Breitbart one of the founders of Huffpo?

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #885993
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The Kennedy clan got their start in boot legging during prohibition.

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Originally Posted By: Sauce
The Kennedy clan got their start in boot legging during prohibition.


What relevance does that have to anything, cheech? JFK's dad wasn't President.

JFK was a war hero.

As opposed to all your heroes who cried out of military service, including John Gotti who if I recollect wished death on American troops during the Gulf War.


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You.do.not.know.what.you.are.talking.about.

You.have.no.idea.who.you.are.talking.to.

Go.away.

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Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #886001
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Lock this up

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyEyes1] #886003
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Lock this up


I agree. This topic is more politics than anything else.

Re: GOP or Democrat President Better for the Mob? [Re: NickyScarfo] #886025
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