you are correct, nobody is liked by everyone, first he was a nappy and most of the captains were siggies, albert was the only non siggie..look what happened to him..gotti was touted to be boss in time, very strange because paul was only boss for about 4 .5 years when gottis name started to be named as a potential boss.

gottis name never popped up as a potential boss especially that early. However when paul was arrested they did talk about a ruling panel with tommy gambino billotti and gotti but i doubt it would have went through

J.C. most certainly did,his name was out there, he was put on the committee to pull the captains in on the no drug rule.that was if i remember from testimony 79 80..also being familiar with the street in that era it was around..bklyn and the bronx were new to that name.hanging with decicco and frankie loc among other younger up and comers made him known in the time frame.look who takes down paul..do you think that happened in 6 months that started in prisons..look at photos posted..gotti is in the middle looking like the guy. my opinion and what i know from late 70's early 80's bensonhurst and bronx.

he was captain of the bergin crew during that time. Neil dellacroce headed the blue collar faction of the family which included gotti angelo etc...

That is correct JC, blue collar term I'm not fond of, it is used for guys who do not own biz's .. and who do the killing for the family..

that term was really created by law enforcement. But lets be honest the gotti crew wasnt exactly intelligent. They did hits,hijacked trucks,loansharked,and dealt drugs. They had no idea how to do white collar crimes

you are right, drug addicts also..

To my knowledge Tony Roach was the only addict in that crew and ever since 1979 he supposedly dropped his drug habit..

Very much doubt Roach was the only addict around Gotti.

That Matthew Traynor was a degenerate fiend, forgot about him, though he was more of a fringe player..

hello Billy, nah he was still using H until he got pinched for the final time..gene, john c , charlie c. twitch all of them were weekend coke users. among others you may not think..

I think all these guys were degenerates, considering how they made their living. It's funny how a guy like Roach or Traynor are labeled by many as being degenerates, but the guys above them, who often direct and profit off of the degenerate activities of these degenerates, are somehow viewed as being more noble and less reprehensible. It's ok to direct other guys to do dirty deeds, and it's ok to profit off of those dirty deeds, but not actively getting one's hands dirty makes a guy an upstanding, ok guy!! The twisted logic of some mob aficionados.

Maybe it has to do with ultimate success. IF a guy gets rich enough or attains enough social clout, then he automatically becomes a more noble criminal, no matter how actively involved he is with degenerates and degenerate activities. LOL

I find the underworld fascinating and many of the casts of characters fascinating characters, which is why I am on this site, but I don't for one second lose sight of the fact that ALL of these guys were some form of low-life (some were much lower than others, but they were all in the gutter to some extent)!

I don't believe I said that all the other guys were noble or good for that matter, and I didn't say anything bad about Roach either..

This Traynor kid was a real low life, that I call him a degenerate has nothing to do with his drug use more of the violence he used on innocent people to feed his habit and greed, trust me on this or otherwise just read Capeci's book..