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Mississippi Corruption #877820
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I am reminded of the old saying, "I'm either against government corruption or want more opportunities to participate." The problem in Mississippi is that so many people have so many opportunities to participate.

Mississippi is not a state. It's a club. And the club of Mississippi doesn't really want things changed. Too many people have the opportunity to participate.


Read more: http://www.cdispatch.com/opinions/article.asp?aid=48739#ixzz42T26yCyu

Even New Orleans couldn't handle it. :-0


If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito.
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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #877830
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BF,

Illinois and NJ might be in the running for most corruption.

I predict that before the start of Summer 2016, there will be at least 10 officials in NJ under indictment, under investigation, charged or resigned.

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Small town corruption or "good ole boy" politics may not be on the small scale as the north but its gone on unchecked in most places for over a hundred years. Its one of those not talked about things.

Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: getthesenets] #877925
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Gets,

I agree and I will challenge you on that note. 10 for my state before this year up too. Let's see how this pans out.


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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #877928
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BF,

I wrote before Summer starts, but we can stretch it out to end of 2016. We can update in this thread.

Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #877931
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Gets,

I overlook that portion but indeed on everything.


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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #878173
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Texas is huge with corruption as well. The most corrupted state at the moment . only because of all the indictments and bust which means other states might just be better at not getting caught .

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If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito.
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Oh...you thought I forgot. When it comes to this bet, NJ will never let me down. Like the kanye west song from first album


one thing I've found....one thing I've found...NJ will let me down....down...down...down..


Judge Orders Release of Secret 'Bridgegate' Names
By NICK RUMMELL


TRENTON, N.J. (CN) — A secret list of unindicted co-conspirators involved in the state's "Bridgegate" scandal could be released as soon as Friday, following a ruling by a federal judge.
The list, which has been kept under lock and key, is thought to include additional elected officials who had knowledge of the 2013 lane shutdowns leading to the George Washington Bridge that led to a massive traffic jam.
The judge hearing the case found arguments that the list is essentially already public knowledge persuasive. Further, the names on the list are likely elected or appointed officials, the judge ruled, which makes the list in the public interest.
"The underlying events that gave rise to the indictment have been extensively covered by the media, such that even persons tangentially involved have already been identified and exposed in the press," Judge Susan Wigenton wrote in her May 11 ruling. "There is very little that is private about the lane closures or the lives of the people allegedly connected to them."
The so-called Bridgegate scandal stems from a five-day shutdown of several lanes leading onto the George Washington Bridge that snarled traffic for hours. Bridget Anne Kelly and William Baroni Jr. were charged with conspiracy and fraud for their alleged roles in shutting down the lanes as political payback to Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, who had declined to endorse Gov. Chris Christie in his re-election bid for governor.
When asked if he thought his name would be on the list of unindicted co-conspirators, Christie told reporters Wednesday "I don't believe so, but I guess no one knows until they actually put the list out."


rest of the article is here


http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/05/12/judge-orders-release-of-secret-bridgegate-names.htm

NOW....these people aren't indicted.....but something tells me that before the bet is over...they will be found guilty of something else.




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Texas is huge on corruption as well. Especially along the border.

Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: Chicken713] #883334
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Poetic justice.......the releasing of the names of bridge gate conspirators is...............delayed.. smile




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fede...irators-n573641


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A federal judge Friday put the brakes on releasing the names of the suspected Bridgegate conspirators.

Judge Susan Wigenton delayed the release until Tuesday after lawyers for a "John Doe" filed a last-minute motion to stop it from being revealed.

They contended that would unfairly tar their client as part of a criminal conspiracy to punish the mayor of Fort Lee for not endorsing Gov. Chris Christie's re-election by deliberately tying up traffic on the George Washington Bridge. They noted that this person had not been charged with a crime.

It's a long shot. Wigenton, in her earlier ruling, pointed out that the names on the list belong to people for "whom the Government has sufficient evidence to designate as having joined the conspiracy."

The judge added that while "privacy for third-parties is indeed important," she said that was outweighed in this case by the public's right to know about the shocking scandal that arguably put a big dent in the once-popular Republican governor's presidential ambitions.

Wigenton had ordered the list released on Tuesday after a consortium of media outlets that includes NBC Universal pushed to make it public. U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman could have appealed the decision. Notably, he didn't.

Christie has already said it's "highly doubtful" his name is on the list. But most of the people suspected of being part of the scheme are believed to be his allies.


Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #883406
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New Orleans, hands down.

Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #883466
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@ Gets

LoL thought you might have for a moment. Do Correctional Officers count too?


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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #883485
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BF,

C.O.s and cops are government workers, so they count....unless it's privatized or fed. prison located in your state.

What did C.O.s in the Crooked Letter do now?

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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #883534
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BF,

thanks..reading the articles now.

Fed. C.O.s are federal employees, not state.

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Ok I see what your saying. I'm thinking sub federal for the state LoL.


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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #883541
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BF,
I read the articles.In EVERY jail or prison, corrections officers bring in contraband...I can't help but think that some convict set them up....like Avon did in the Wire.

Bridgegate co-conspirator list is supposed to be released tomorrow, so enjoy your lead.......for now.

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Gets,
Contraband smuggling is going to be a major pipeline throughout the country's penintenuary like you said and it also comes down to who the major players within that pulling strings. The chicago mobs & AB are doing the most behind bars in my state.

You should catch up soon lol
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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #883597
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since it's NJ......of course...more delays

Christie's name must be on the list.

Updated 1 hr 15 mins ago
NEWARK, New Jersey (WABC) --
A federal appeals court has decided not to allow a list of unindicted co-conspirators in the 2013 George Washington Bridge lane-closing scandal to be released Tuesday.

A federal judge ruled last week that the list should be released, but one of the people on the list has challenged that to a federal appeals court, arguing that his due process rights will be violated if the list is published and he would be branded a criminal. "John Doe" was granted a stay, and the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia will take up the appeal, with oral arguments scheduled for June 6.

Bruce Rosen, an attorney for media organizations fighting for the list, has rejected the anonymous man's claims.

Two former allies of Gov. Chris Christie have been indicted and face trial this fall. A third pleaded guilty.

Here are some things to know about the list and its contents, from the Associated Press:
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WHAT'S AN UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR?

An unindicted co-conspirator is someone who was involved in a conspiracy to commit a crime but hasn't been criminally charged. It is not, experts say and contrary to some interpretations, someone who merely knew about a conspiracy.

"A co-conspirator means you're part of the criminal conspiracy - you're in it like the others," said Bradley Simon, a white-collar defense attorney and former federal prosecutor.

Also, just because unindicted co-conspirators aren't facing criminal charges now doesn't mean they couldn't eventually, Simon said.
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WHY DO PROSECUTORS USE THEM?

Unindicted co-conspirators can be people who were involved in a conspiracy but whom prosecutors don't feel they have enough evidence against to gain a conviction. They also can be people who haven't been indicted because they are cooperating with the government.

Of greater importance to prosecutors, Simon and other defense attorneys say, is that under an exception to the hearsay evidence rule, statements by an unindicted co-conspirator can be allowed at a trial without having to put the person on the witness stand.
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RELEASING THE NAMES: PROS AND CONS

An attorney for John Doe, who is seeking to block the list's release, argued in court filings that publishing it would unfairly brand her client as a criminal without giving him the chance to prove otherwise, in violation of due process protections.

Attorneys representing several media organizations, including The Associated Press, have argued that the public interest in seeing the list outweighs privacy concerns and that due process doesn't extend to protecting a person's reputation.

In a letter Monday to the judge who originally ordered the list's release last week, attorney Bruce Rosen requested that, if the appeals court sides with John Doe, the list be released with his name redacted.
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WHAT COULD THE LIST OF UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATORS REVEAL?

If the list is made public, it could provide insight into the government's case against two former allies of Republican Gov. Chris Christie who were indicted last year and face trial this fall.

It also could contradict the findings of a taxpayer-funded report by a Christie-hired law firm that placed most of the blame on former Christie deputy chief of staff Bridget Kelly, one of those indicted, and former Port Authority of New York and New Jersey official David Wildstein, who has pleaded guilty.

The conclusion of the 360-page report issued by Gibson, Dunn and Crutcher in 2014 exonerated Christie and found "no evidence that anyone else in the Office of the Governor, besides Kelly, had any advance knowledge of the lane realignment or was otherwise involved in orchestrating or approving it."

Several key players, including Kelly, Wildstein and Bill Baroni, the former Port Authority executive indicted with Kelly, declined to be interviewed by the law firm.

If the list includes current or former officials of the Port Authority, the operator of bridges, tunnels, airports and ports in the New York region, it could further damage the reputation of an agency whose public image has been battered by the bridge scandal and several spinoff investigations into possible conflicts of interest and backroom dealing.
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Re: Mississippi Corruption [Re: BlackFamily] #883598
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Sauce,

I've heard this story from 3 different people about N'awlins.

They went down there for convenstion or concert or something. They got a ticket or some citation while there. Before they boarded the plane...here was an agent checking IDs and if you didn't pay the fine/fee...you couldn't board the flight.

First time I heard the story,I thought it was made up. How can anybody stop you from a domestic flight for a ticket? But heard it two more times.

Came to N'awlins on new years eve.ha/
got stuck and couldn't leave.ha/
it was hard to breathe.ha/

cool

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LOL smile

No wonder Carlos Marcello could flourish over there for all those years..

True Detective season 1 also depicted that mentality pretty accurate I think..

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Yup, was really crazy before Katrina, 2% murder conviction rate. Judges on drug payroll, clerk of court on drug payroll. Mayor on payroll.

Grew up and went to school there, cops were Cowboys, yes sir and no sir or you got a stick to the head of you were lucky.

I used to hang with Carlos marcelos grand kids and padnus at the track. Crazy times

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Yeah prostition was big for Carlos but he made his money on vending machines

Had good Lebanese freinds make the rounds and collect his money for him

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Sorry @Sauce but Mississippi gave Louisiana the BOOT in that department whistle.
Gets,
Juvenile reference lol lol lol


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#6 / Gets , Im going to you let you catch up . lol

Hinds County D.A arrested

Hinds County District Attorney Robert Shuler Smith is accused in a six-count affidavit of providing information to assist criminal defendants.

http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2016/jun/22/hinds-district-attorney-arrested-ag-sheriff/


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BF,

Give me a month and I'll cover your six and whoever else falls in the meantime.

Sort of a slow month and year for Jersey politicians...might have to do with the election year and the (watch)dogs being called off for now.

Usually a mayor or two are arrested before school lets out for summer.

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Duplicate post below, all apologies.

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