I know Big Paul wanted to hear them. Have they ever been released? If I have my facts right,Gene Gotti and Ruggiero were pinched together. How come Gotti wasnt whacked? Was it because Big Paul was whacked first? Even if Big Paul made it to trial, were the Ruggiero tapes all they had on him or was he fucked like the other bosses?

were the Ruggiero tapes all they had on him or was he fucked like the other bosses?

How come Gotti wasnt whacked?

Was it because Big Paul was whacked first?

It's ironic how Mr. Neil was old school lcn, yet he stood behind the Gotti's. Who broke the all the rules. Why was Neil so fond of Gotti? From everything i've read and seen, he seems like a bum, a lousy husband, and a shitty dad. I wish Demeo's crew wouldve been ordered to slice up Gotti. He was the best thing to happen for the feds. Worst thing for the Gambinos.

From memory they had the Demeo car ring on him as well.

I know Big Paul wanted to hear them. Have they ever been released? If I have my facts right,Gene Gotti and Ruggiero were pinched together. How come Gotti wasnt whacked? Was it because Big Paul was whacked first? Even if Big Paul made it to trial, were the Ruggiero tapes all they had on him or was he fucked like the other bosses?

Everyone talks about how high profile Gotti was and how he ruined the gambino crime family ect..,,

Everyone talks about how high profile Gotti was and how he ruined the gambino crime family ect..,, no one mentions that he was very well liked, respected, and feared. Neil loved him as did carmine fatico. Neil was a hardcore G and no way would someone of Neils stature gravitate towards a low life. Gotti, love him or hate him, was a true gangster. Saying he wasnt a good husband or father is kind of ridiculous. What about castellano, Gigante, and virtually every other mob guy. They all had girls on the side and most had little or no contact with their kids.
As far as ruggiero. Gotti shelved him for being a total dick for brains and talking about drugs on his telephone, even though it was his daughter; like the shit head didnt think the feds can tap his daughters phone! Fuckin stupid.
Gotti went after Paul proavtively because he knew there was a good chance he would be killed or at the very least, his crew split up and his money would of dried up. It really was a smart move in a sense.
The fact that he wasnt killed after am unsanctioned hit of a boss shows how respected he was despite a few attempts such as the car bombing that killed his underboss.
Look what happed to Anthony Caponegro when he shot Bruno... That never happened to Gotti. Dont beieve the hype that Gotti was purposely high profile so no one coukd kill him as law enforcement was always watching him. Total bullshit. Any number of crews coukd of killed him in a drive by leaving his home, the bergen club, or even some restaurant. Not to mention he attended meetings with other families and easily could have been set up. He was never killed for a reason.

Everyone talks about how high profile Gotti was and how he ruined the gambino crime family ect..,, no one mentions that he was very well liked, respected, and feared. Neil loved him as did carmine fatico. Neil was a hardcore G and no way would someone of Neils stature gravitate towards a low life. Gotti, love him or hate him, was a true gangster. Saying he wasnt a good husband or father is kind of ridiculous. What about castellano, Gigante, and virtually every other mob guy. They all had girls on the side and most had little or no contact with their kids.
As far as ruggiero. Gotti shelved him for being a total dick for brains and talking about drugs on his telephone, even though it was his daughter; like the shit head didnt think the feds can tap his daughters phone! Fuckin stupid.
Gotti went after Paul proavtively because he knew there was a good chance he would be killed or at the very least, his crew split up and his money would of dried up. It really was a smart move in a sense.
The fact that he wasnt killed after am unsanctioned hit of a boss shows how respected he was despite a few attempts such as the car bombing that killed his underboss.
Look what happed to Anthony Caponegro when he shot Bruno... That never happened to Gotti. Dont beieve the hype that Gotti was purposely high profile so no one coukd kill him as law enforcement was always watching him. Total bullshit. Any number of crews coukd of killed him in a drive by leaving his home, the bergen club, or even some restaurant. Not to mention he attended meetings with other families and easily could have been set up. He was never killed for a reason.

Gotti was going to be killed for the murder of Paul though. Chin was going to do the same thing to him as he done with Caponigro. He was going to kill Gotti and his underboss, to repay Castellano and Bilotti being murdered. He made his first attempt with the car bomb that killed DeCicco. He would've made another attempt to get rid of him much faster, but Gotti ended up sitting in prison for the entirety of the Giacalone case. After Gotti won the case, Chin immediately set the plan to kill Gotti back in motion and let Jimmy Brown and Danny Marino know it , because those two were who he was going to install as boss and underboss of the Gambinos after Gotti was killed. However, the feds heard Bobby Manna discussing the plans in the bathroom of his NJ restaurant and informed Gotti that the Genovese had a hit planned for him. Chin was then alerted that the FBI knew about it, and decided to leave it alone, because if Gotti was killed, they'd ultimately know who it came from.

@Anyone who speaks Legalese;

So the Ruggerio tapes helped provide the probable cause to bug Pauls home,right? I never understood why he couldn't get these tapes himself via discovery. Or just get some 1000 dollar an hour lawyers on it, like he couldn't get these tapes, really?


Why was the guy so inflexible about something none of the bosses could control? Why not pass word to Ruggerio, hey, you get convicted,you gotta take the fall for the family? In fact, I woulda ordered DeMeo to do the same.....

Ok, maybe not DeMeo, it WAS a Rico......