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JohnAliteFacts.com #875928
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John Alite is a pathological liar and his book is not true crime but instead almost total fiction.

If you're not entirely sick of him, please visit JohnAliteFacts.com

I read the same transcripts and court documents that his book is supposed to be based on yet they directly contradicts the stories in his book. He's a pathological liar and a lot of people have grown very sick of him. Time for him to be exposed. It's long overdue.

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Who fucking cares about John Alite this much to make a website dedicated to calling him a liar? Colossal waste of time.

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Re: JohnAliteFacts.com [Re: Kasparoza] #875938
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Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
John Alite is a pathological liar and his book is not true crime but instead almost total fiction.

If you're not entirely sick of him, please visit JohnAliteFacts.com

I read the same transcripts and court documents that his book is supposed to be based on yet they directly contradicts the stories in his book. He's a pathological liar and a lot of people have grown very sick of him. Time for him to be exposed. It's long overdue.


Why do I get the feeling this comes from someone in the Junior Gotti camp? Give it a rest guy. This is embarrassing.

Re: JohnAliteFacts.com [Re: Kasparoza] #875939
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Is this Angel gotti that set this up ??

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Is this Angel gotti that set this up ??


Not sure, but Junior and Alite are still going at it it seems. It's so embarrassing. Two rats fighting about who is less of a rat. You can't help but cringe.

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Is this Angel gotti that set this up ??


Just out of curiosity, why would you ask that?

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Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Is this Angel gotti that set this up ??


Just out of curiosity, why would you ask that?
I'm sure she was mentioning it on Twitter

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She's my friend, and a real sweetheart. One of the nicest, most loyal people you'll ever meet.
But I built it myself.

Re: JohnAliteFacts.com [Re: Kasparoza] #875947
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its embarrassing two men who claim to be tough guys killers and this is how they act

and who sets up a anti alite site your that obsessed and care this much about either of them its embarrassing

i am tired of hearing about these fucking rats


Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport

Sorry for the confusion
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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
i am tired of hearing about these fucking rats


Co-sign

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I skimmed through some of the contents of the site. lol it does make alite look a lot worse somehow than he does already. but I cant understand the point though, the guy is is and has been a dirtbag, joke for a while now and throwing more dirt on him, while funny, doesnt really do anything.

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Originally Posted By: Sal_Bronte
I skimmed through some of the contents of the site. lol it does make alite look a lot worse somehow than he does already. but I cant understand the point though, the guy is is and has been a dirtbag, joke for a while now and throwing more dirt on him, while funny, doesnt really do anything.


Not even just about it being funny. So much dirt came out. A witness confirms that his cellmate in witsec was a convicted pedophile, Michael Blutrich-- and guess what? That that pedophile wrote the first draft of his book, which Anastasia then rewrote when he came on board.

Did Anastasia know that?
Lot of stuff coming out in near future.

Re: JohnAliteFacts.com [Re: Kasparoza] #875954
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I've been reading about John " its hammer time " Alite for a while and i think he is 50/50 on the bull shit scale. When hammer time claims he met Joe Gallo, i have a hard time believing it. I did nitice Jr Gotti doesnt go out of his way to mention " Hammer Time" but Alite always finds a way to bring up Gotti jr.
its wierd. I mean who knows, if i ever met the dude, i may like him. He has to stop bringing up Jr Gotti.

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I agree , this is beyond embarrassing and honestly this is embarrassing for CN . How can either of these guys look themselves in the mirror . This is cringe worthy stuff

Sad how Anastasia sold his soul and has ruined an otherwise respectable reputation . He has basically decided to end his career like that clown that wrote about Casso. Why George why ? No amount of $ is worth ruining you rep forever , just sad , that's honestly how I feel .

Ironically JA lack of credibility is partly the reason junior is still a free man lol.That Fake Bonnano wise guy that did Vinnie in is still IMO the #1 most embarrassing rat there is but Alite is doing a solid job of locking up second place

And Junior , I just don't get it , you have already shamed your family with the profer but now JAfacts Facebook pages , I just can't believe this. Sr had some brains but outside of Massino was the worst boss in history . Can you imagine Chin or Barney being upset over the papers writing you get a haircut every other day instead of every day . Massino was at least an intelligent and effective leader but there is just no way to explain how terrible Sr and Jr were to CN

However now with Jr being a confirmed rat and now having on line battles over who is the least credible rat is beyond embarrassing . This is all just shocking , Jr just let it go , you ratted and your making it worse by engaging a person with no credibility . The word has always been he wasn't intelligent but this borders on outright severe mental deficiency

I don't like posting over stupid stuff like this and where we arent even talking about the game and moves but this is the most embarrassing behavior by wise guys probably ever . That Bonnano guy is right up there with them tho

I have a lot of family in Queens and both Junior and JA were legit tough guys , both killers , neither has a brain but both had legit tough guy reps . After this I don't see any Gotti having any future role with the family . I feel bad Gene has to carry that name around still as he doesn't deserve being associated with Sr or Jr .

This is just so embarrassing for CN . Jr was disciplined a few years back but it's getting to the point where somebody needs to tell them to shut the F up or be silenced .

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Like I said earlier...Has nothing to do with the present day or future of the Mob.

Re: JohnAliteFacts.com [Re: mightyhealthy] #875961
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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Who fucking cares about John Alite this much to make a website dedicated to calling him a liar? Colossal waste of time.

This.

I mean, there's discussion about the guy here because there's not much new info to discuss about Ny mob 80s-90s, so of course we'll take what we can get, and it's an Anastasia book (which just came out and is only #700+ in the Amazon rankings for organized crime books, lol)...a low level nobody in the scheme of things. Hopefully you get enough page hits to have made that page worth your while, kasparosa.

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Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
She's my friend, and a real sweetheart. One of the nicest, most loyal people you'll ever meet.
But I built it myself.


so you created this website? did everyone who responded miss this?

Why would you waste your time doing this about one rat fuck shit talking another rat fuck?


"No, no, you aint alrite Spyder you got alotta fuckin problems"
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
She's my friend, and a real sweetheart. One of the nicest, most loyal people you'll ever meet.
But I built it myself.


so you created this website? did everyone who responded miss this?

Why would you waste your time doing this about one rat fuck shit talking another rat fuck?


I wanted to expose his lies. That's all. Not a waste of time to me. Read the transcripts, court documents and it was just so outrageous I had to say something about it. Especially after he threatened me and went around slandering me. His whole changed man routine is an act. He talks about wanting to help exploited women now but doesn't mention he testified to smacking around multiple women in two separate trials and he has a team of bottom feeders and ambulance chasers helping him do it. Members of his own blood family want him exposed, that's how sick he is. They've reached out. Lot I want to say but can't at moment, but it's all about to start coming out now.

I mean, he says in just about every interview how he's a changed man and going to therapy to help conquer his demons--- but never mentions that the judge ORDERED him to go to therapy. His sentencing hearings were sealed so who knows the conversation that went on in there.

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Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
She's my friend, and a real sweetheart. One of the nicest, most loyal people you'll ever meet.
But I built it myself.


so you created this website? did everyone who responded miss this?

Why would you waste your time doing this about one rat fuck shit talking another rat fuck?


I wanted to expose his lies. That's all. Not a waste of time to me. Read the transcripts, court documents and it was just so outrageous I had to say something about it. Especially after he threatened me and went around slandering me. His whole changed man routine is an act. He talks about wanting to help exploited women now but doesn't mention he testified to smacking around multiple women in two separate trials and he has a team of bottom feeders and ambulance chasers helping him do it. Members of his own blood family want him exposed, that's how sick he is. They've reached out. Lot I want to say but can't at moment, but it's all about to start coming out now.

I mean, he says in just about every interview how he's a changed man and going to therapy to help conquer his demons--- but never mentions that the judge ORDERED him to go to therapy. His sentencing hearings were sealed so who knows the conversation that went on in there.


Fair enough, and I didnt mean it to come off as attacking you for doing it, if I did I apologize, I was just questioning the time to do it because as you said and the evidence and docs show hes a gigantic piece of shit...but Jr is too, and he really is not very bright at least when he was involved with the Gambino family based on what ive read


"No, no, you aint alrite Spyder you got alotta fuckin problems"
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: Kasparoza
She's my friend, and a real sweetheart. One of the nicest, most loyal people you'll ever meet.
But I built it myself.


so you created this website? did everyone who responded miss this?

Why would you waste your time doing this about one rat fuck shit talking another rat fuck?


I wanted to expose his lies. That's all. Not a waste of time to me. Read the transcripts, court documents and it was just so outrageous I had to say something about it. Especially after he threatened me and went around slandering me. His whole changed man routine is an act. He talks about wanting to help exploited women now but doesn't mention he testified to smacking around multiple women in two separate trials and he has a team of bottom feeders and ambulance chasers helping him do it. Members of his own blood family want him exposed, that's how sick he is. They've reached out. Lot I want to say but can't at moment, but it's all about to start coming out now.

I mean, he says in just about every interview how he's a changed man and going to therapy to help conquer his demons--- but never mentions that the judge ORDERED him to go to therapy. His sentencing hearings were sealed so who knows the conversation that went on in there.


Fair enough, and I didnt mean it to come off as attacking you for doing it, if I did I apologize, I was just questioning the time to do it because as you said and the evidence and docs show hes a gigantic piece of shit...but Jr is too, and he really is not very bright at least when he was involved with the Gambino family based on what ive read


I understand where you're coming from, no apology necessary. Would be lying if there weren't times I was reading Alite's garbage and didn't feel like I was losing brain cells.

I've gotten to know JG pretty well and I can tell you he's nowhere near anything like Alite and Anastasia make him out to be. I personally feel that if he was a dumb individual he'd be doing life and would not have been able to walk away. He wouldn't have escaped conviction in five straight trials-- there was a tax prosecution in addition to the four rico trials. Just look at the way Alite speaks and JG does-- big difference. Alite is an imbecile, JG is far from.

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Well said.

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he is a gotti fanatic ..i just do not understand why he defends gotti, when it is clear he gave info.if he wants to be his friend,, great.but like many have said, jr is less of a rat ? jr must face what he did..stop having his sister ,this guy and everyone else he has on his payroll championing the gotti name.. they are done, thanks to jr..alite is a rat who loves giving it to these gottis..jr is giving arat a platform and payday the more he fuels arat. scars said something in scarpos site, remember who and what you both were..that stands out in my mind..you are both done in the street.your tough guy status is a joke both of you.what was and what is now is shameful. so to the guy who fights for jr, you are a loyal friend to him,that is clear..my opinion .you are a tool in jrs tool box.let him come out if he really needs to and fight his own fight for once.as for arat..he is making money off the gotti name and should send them a piece and say thanks.

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well said.. but can you admit jr ratted? if you can ..slam arat all you want.

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Bronx it's a joke. It's just fucking weird...

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Jr gotti comes across as well spoken and a gentleman who really loves his kids.
I can give a fuck about a proffer he did and then backed out of.
Half these guys that are praised on this board as being stand up couldnt do 5 minutes in witsec. Thats rough fuckin time my man.

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Maybe kasparoza is jr hahaha

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His proxy for sure, jr should have his camp ,fans etc, just back off .go live his life, spend money and not answer alite or anyone else and in time the noise goes away.if he keeps trying to say I'm not a rat or i changed my mind he fuels the fire.people on here, me included like to comment and give our opinions. if they say alite lies thats fine, i agree on some things are way out in space. but alite was nobody in that life compared to gottis..so gottis go down to fight some lies and make him credible in doing so. not all is a lie..it is just another bad divorce..they just keep fighting in the press, so they both become fair game for all of us. two numb nuts..just that alite is winning every time jrs camp says the 302 is a lie..sounds like he is trying to convince himself ..he can not convince me..the past is the past..why should he care .the street hates him.he is a real mutt to street guys,and alite is just a rat..something they both have in common.

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Agree bronx, the whole thing is sad as hell. Especially this guy, defending junior and bashing alite. It's so pathetic and sad.

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Hate to say it gents but you're the ones reading the threads.

If you don't want to read about Jnr or Alite. Don't click on the thread.


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To the gentleman above who said that Alite is "winning"-- in actuality, he's buried himself over the last year with all his lies.

He contradicts himself in every other interview. He's delusional, and perhaps some people have let him keep talking and burying himself on purpose?

As to the proffer-- JG will be public very soon and I'll let him speak for himself. But I don't see him as a rat.

Far from it.

He went through five trials after that proffer, and no one was ever imprisoned or indicted because of it. People might say, "Oh, well he would have cooperated had he been convicted"-- but what about the damage to his family? His mother suffered strokes. His children didn't know if their father was getting a life sentence or not. It's not just him. His family suffered, I can't even imagine nor do I want to imagine the stress of having your son, or spouse, or sibling or parent go through trial after trial, especially when one was death eligible, I mean, Alite was trying to put him in jail for life for crimes he didn't even do and the government knew it.

Look how he's lying in all his interviews now? I read the transcripts, he did the same thing on the stand, and the government knew it.

If JG wanted to cooperate, he would have.

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