I wonder if Nose nephew was even at this dinner if he wasn't that could say a lot about the state of the family

Yaeh I love mhealthy I just was going by the looks inside looks pretty nice my knowledge of Staten island comes from jersey shore and wu tang 90s. I mean some of them places in Staten look right over the river some its got that going. And some book I read a fed said if you live on Staten island you have a relative in the mob.

And tommy d is back on the streets, was he at the meeting or do he represent a different faction thats waiting for the nose to come home?

Joseph Sabella was in Tommy's crew. Most likely Joe is Tommy and the Bonanno family go between, unless Joe was placed as a Capo to a different crew.

He wasn't. If we're talking about the Frank Salerno guy, his name wasn't mentioned once among those who were present. But someone also asked why Vinny TV wasn't there, I have no clue, one could argue that he too has little to do with current going on's with the Bonanno admin. But if anyone would guess who an "unofficial offical boss" would be, I'd place my bets on him. But we have yet to hear anything like that.


And sorry to bring this shit back up again, but I noticed on the first page, Ivy that you mentioned something about LE, Capeci & Daily News, all not being wrong, and members (assuming you meant me as one of them), pick and choose what they want to believe. Yet, you never take responsibility for you doing the same thing. Not once did you acknowledge the earlier Daily News article, which contradicts it's previous one, stating that the Bonannos were on the verge of a war because Mancuso backed Pallazolo against Cammarano, while Cammarano had the backing of the captains on the street, the article clear as day spoke of Mancuso & Cammarano not being allies, but on opposing sides. One would assume they also got this information from law enforcement, so wouldn't you also be "picking and choosing" by simply choosing to believe one Daily News article over the other? Not to mention the Asaro articles, that Daily News, Newsday, & Capeci had written about which stated Tommy DiFiore as the boss of the Bonannos and made no mention of Mancuso throughout it's entirety.

As far as Peter Gotti, you can argue semantics all you like, Capeci still labels him as the official boss of the Gambinos, yet you say thats a different situation because Capeci goes out of his way to say that that's only in name, while he doesn't do it for Mancuso....That seems like a strawman argument, to me.

"This was a modern day version of what happened in Apalachin, New York," Garaufis said
LMAO. You gotta be kidding ,me he is out of his mind.

Bonanno crime family mobster Ronald Giallanzo was sentenced to one year and one day behind bars for violating the terms of his supervised release. Giallanzo was caught meeting people he wasn’t supposed to as per the terms of his prison release when he attended last years Bonanno family Christmas party. Convicted on racketeering and extortion charges back in 2007 the mobster had a strict “do not associate list” which he admitted to breaching. The Bonanno family Christmas party is somewhat of a mafia tradition, although this year’s gathering has caused problems for Giallanzo and other fellow mobsters.

Attendance at last year’s party was mandatory according to the feds so mobsters could pay homage to new family acting boss Joseph Cammarano Jr.Fellow mobsters Joseph Desimone and Anthony Pipitone were also charged with violating the terms of their federal release by associating with known wiseguys while attending the party. The feds had the gathering under surveillance and collected evidence of the mobsters meeting and greeting other made men in the New York mafia. According to Assistant U.S. District Attorney Lindsay Gerdes Giallanzo was caught not only attending the mafia Christmas party at Bocelli’s restaurant on Staten Island but also three other prohibited meetings with members of the New York mob.

Giallanzo is the nephew of Bonanno family captain Vincent Asaro who was recently acquitted in the Lufthansa airport robbery case. Federal judge Nicholas Garaufis told the now 45-year-old mobster that he understands full well what goes on at the mob get-togethers like the Christmas party in question. The Judge told him “Doesn’t everyone have parties in December where they pass around envelopes of money?” he said sarcastically. “You think I just got off the boat from the South Sea islands and I don’t know what’s going on?” Prosecutors were seeking a two-year term for the violation, but defense attorney’s argued that the year and a day sentence the judge had just issued last year to fellow Bonnano family mobster John Palazzolo for a similar violation should be used again.

for all the guys who hate that old guy vinny they inducted his son his nephew and his cousins kid. i think i read theres even a few more. a connected family no less.