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Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out #872906
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Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #872908
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That has to be a joke right? Anything involving Karen has to be publicity driven. Love how the article called him a lieutenant. She's trying to stay on the spotlight now that Mob wives might be ending. Personally, this show is disgraceful and one big joke.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #872909
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What a fuckin joke , ratting on gotti aside . The guy is a fuckin scumbag who got his kids pretty much into drug dealing or condoned it , wonder if the money will go to the victims of the people he murdered

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #872910
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it seems that Son of Sam law is a joke. These criminals have found some way to circumvent it. Does anyone know wether anyone ever had to turn over the profits to the victim or their families?

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #872911
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I thought he would be on his daughters show when he got out.


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Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #872922
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Enough with these assholes..This guy is a real POS. One thing to be involved in the drug trade but to involve your whole Family is a disgrace.This Mob wives thing is getting out of control.His Daughter says "that's not who he is"..You're right he's a idiot and she's not too smart either.

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Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: Beenaround] #872923
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Originally Posted By: Beenaround
One thing to be involved in the drug trade but to involve your whole Family is a disgrace.

Do you mean Family as "blood relatives" or as "mafia family"? If it's about involving relatives, I agree, but if it's the mafia family, then who gives a shit about involving them, drug trade is much worse.

But I agree Gravano has served much less time in prison than he deserves.

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Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: Dwalin2011] #872934
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His Family...Wife and Kids...Not talking about the Gambino Family..lol.

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Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #872987
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How is it that Gravano believes that he is able to roam freely when Leonetti is living like a phantom. They both are in the same category........Maybe Phil will be his co-star.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #872989
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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
How is it that Gravano believes that he is able to roam freely when Leonetti is living like a phantom. They both are in the same category........Maybe Phil will be his co-star.


Because absolutely nothing will happen to him..

If Chris Paciello can walk around freely, updating his status on social media and all, anybody can..


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Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #873043
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Yes Gravano is a shit but his parents aren't angels.
Sammy don't pull a gun in his son's head for sell dope,Gerard was in a gang and all drug operation made 500,000 a week!
So his daughter and Sammy are searching a legal way to make money,Sammy had 70 y and a bad health for sure don't want to make the end of philly soldier (Caprio right ?) that live in a camper.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: furio_from_naples] #873045
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Yes Gravano is a shit but his parents aren't angels.
Sammy don't pull a gun in his son's head for sell dope,Gerard was in a gang and all drug operation made 500,000 a week!
So his daughter and Sammy are searching a legal way to make money,Sammy had 70 y and a bad health for sure don't want to make the end of philly soldier (Caprio right ?) that live in a camper.


Furio, Pete the crumb Caprio is in WITSEC. I think it was Nick Caramandi who is living in a trailer park.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: Beanshooter] #873046
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Yes Gravano is a shit but his parents aren't angels.
Sammy don't pull a gun in his son's head for sell dope,Gerard was in a gang and all drug operation made 500,000 a week!
So his daughter and Sammy are searching a legal way to make money,Sammy had 70 y and a bad health for sure don't want to make the end of philly soldier (Caprio right ?) that live in a camper.

Furio, Pete the crumb Caprio is in WITSEC. I think it was Nick Caramandi who is living in a trailer park.


Yes Bean I confused Caprio with nicky the Crow. But this don't changed what I said of Gravano and his son and daughter.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #873049
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Agree Furio

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #873072
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For me the Gravanos would emulate the Growing Up Gotti success.
Because the people hate the criminals but really love to watch them on tv.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #873096
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Wow, had no idea he was due to be released so soon. Any word on his health? I seem to remember Casso talking about how ill he seemed when they ran into each other in Florence years ago.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #873122
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His release date is March 8, 2019, but Gravano asked to be out first because was ill (Graves desease). Now will be the state to decide what will do of him.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #873125
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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
How is it that Gravano believes that he is able to roam freely when Leonetti is living like a phantom. They both are in the same category........Maybe Phil will be his co-star.
Leave Philip out of this please.. no,they r not in the same category..phil left everything behind whereas, Sammy could'nt help it but 2 get back in illegal dealing's. Sammy's a scumbag,Phil tried 2 help himself & family & did so..


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Originally Posted By: hoodlum
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How is it that Gravano believes that he is able to roam freely when Leonetti is living like a phantom. They both are in the same category........Maybe Phil will be his co-star.
Leave Philip out of this please.. no,they r not in the same category..phil left everything behind whereas, Sammy could'nt help it but 2 get back in illegal dealing's. Sammy's a scumbag,Phil tried 2 help himself & family & did so..


Hoodlum is right. Leonetti after went in WITSEC lived honestly while gravano become a drug dealer and dreamed even to create a gravano crime family in Arizona.

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Funny how Karen and other Rats family are on TV getting some shine when if her Dad was Eastern Europe or Latin she would be dead already with the rest of the family

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: MusclesMarinara] #873232
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Won't happen now body will watch. He's shit will be a 10 min. Vice documentary when he gets out. If no one gives a fuck about Jr gotti story's and movie which will go straight to dvd . internet piracys the world.

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: hoodlum] #873387
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Originally Posted By: hoodlum
Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
How is it that Gravano believes that he is able to roam freely when Leonetti is living like a phantom. They both are in the same category........Maybe Phil will be his co-star.
Leave Philip out of this please.. no,they r not in the same category..phil left everything behind whereas, Sammy could'nt help it but 2 get back in illegal dealing's. Sammy's a scumbag,Phil tried 2 help himself & family & did so..


Well, they are both pieces of shit. That's the same category to me...

Re: Gravano in talks about a tv show when he gets out [Re: alicecooper] #873400
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Originally Posted By: alicecooper
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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
How is it that Gravano believes that he is able to roam freely when Leonetti is living like a phantom. They both are in the same category........Maybe Phil will be his co-star.
Leave Philip out of this please.. no,they r not in the same category..phil left everything behind whereas, Sammy could'nt help it but 2 get back in illegal dealing's. Sammy's a scumbag,Phil tried 2 help himself & family & did so..


Well, they are both pieces of shit. That's the same category to me...


Its different scarfo sr was for Leonetti like a father. When Phil was 8 nicky used him for don't get sospects on the dead body that was carrying on the truck, scarfo made him a brainwash on cosa nostra ecc while gravano father was rich and Sammy could do everything but choosed the crime giving the bad to the dislessia.
Leonetti changed life for his son while gravano turned to crime and made his sons go to prison. Yes they are both criminals but in the life a man can change but only God will forgive his sins.

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I think some people think Gravano was a rat because he was afraid of going to prison. He became a rat because he thought it was just a good decision in the situation he found himself in.

From what I know of him he has a fearless personality. When he first went into witness protection some people saw him at the Santa Rosalia feast on 18 ave. here in Brooklyn.

No one in the witness protection would not something like that if they feared being killed.


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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: alicecooper
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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
How is it that Gravano believes that he is able to roam freely when Leonetti is living like a phantom. They both are in the same category........Maybe Phil will be his co-star.
Leave Philip out of this please.. no,they r not in the same category..phil left everything behind whereas, Sammy could'nt help it but 2 get back in illegal dealing's. Sammy's a scumbag,Phil tried 2 help himself & family & did so..


Well, they are both pieces of shit. That's the same category to me...


Its different scarfo sr was for Leonetti like a father. When Phil was 8 nicky used him for don't get sospects on the dead body that was carrying on the truck, scarfo made him a brainwash on cosa nostra ecc while gravano father was rich and Sammy could do everything but choosed the crime giving the bad to the dislessia.
Leonetti changed life for his son while gravano turned to crime and made his sons go to prison. Yes they are both criminals but in the life a man can change but only God will forgive his sins.


Ok, Leonetti was different in that way, but he was getting towards 40 years old when he became a rat. Convicted on RICO of 10 murders and I forget what all else. THEN he becomes a rat. Had he not gotten convicted he would have kept on going as he was, or as close to it as he could.

And this whole "for my son" line of bullshit. Please. What was gonna happen to a cute little guy like that in the pen? Pucker up buttercup, especially back in the 80's.

he did nothing for his son, only for himself. he should die broke in prison instead he's free and wealthy off his life of being a scumbag piece of shit criminal. Fuck him. Sorry, that's how I see that one...

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Originally Posted By: Footreads
I think some people think Gravano was a rat because he was afraid of going to prison. He became a rat because he thought it was just a good decision in the situation he found himself in.

From what I know of him he has a fearless personality. When he first went into witness protection some people saw him at the Santa Rosalia feast on 18 ave. here in Brooklyn.

No one in the witness protection would not something like that if they feared being killed.


Gravano seems to be 100% psychopath. If so, he doesn't feel fear like normal people. It does not exist to him. There is a theory that dogs can detect, and don't like psychopaths, because their bodies don't sweat like normal people so the dogs react to that.

Some say the dogs are reacting to how the other humans are reacting to the psychopath, knowing that one among them is definitely not the same as the others...

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Didn't Leonetti come into Philadelphia and met with Scarfo Jr after he had cooperated? Also didn't he do a Documentary too? That's not like being "phantoms". Featherstone and a few others are the true "phantoms" Not a peep is ever heard from them. Guys like Alite, Previte, Caramandi, Hill, Gravano, Franzese, Montiglio, Didonato and a few others crave the spotlight and some are even living out there in the open.

I like your definition of a psychopath and the behavior of dogs around them AliceCooper!

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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Didn't Leonetti come into Philadelphia and met with Scarfo Jr after he had cooperated? Also didn't he do a Documentary too? That's not like being "phantoms". Featherstone and a few others are the true "phantoms" Not a peep is ever heard from them. Guys like Alite, Previte, Caramandi, Hill, Gravano, Franzese, Montiglio, Didonato and a few others crave the spotlight and some are even living out there in the open.

I like your definition of a psychopath and the behavior of dogs around them AliceCooper!


In his book Leonetti said that turned to philly because his granma was dying and that meet nicky jr at his restaurant.
I want to defend Leonetti. For make a change like that: rat on a person who was like a father and go away and stay in the shadow must be a good reason.Hill flip cause the drugs, the others had an excuse gravano is because gotti betrayl and would give all the blame on him,all bullshit, 19 people dead in exchange of the immunity is a good deal,will be idiot to refuse.

Its bad to say but sociopats don't smell differently because 8n this case with a dog you can easly find them.

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I agree with you about the 19 murder for his free get out of jail card for Gotti's head. But, Leonetti also collaborated in the writing of Mafia Prince, which by the way I really enjoyed. He also recently did a Documentary, albeit in the shadows, but still exposed himself. Yes he's been low profile but not in the category of Featherstone and some of the others. And Leonetti only cooperated after he was found guilty. He waited it out till the very end, not like Gravano who saw it coming.

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Originally Posted By: alicecooper
Originally Posted By: Footreads
I think some people think Gravano was a rat because he was afraid of going to prison. He became a rat because he thought it was just a good decision in the situation he found himself in.

From what I know of him he has a fearless personality. When he first went into witness protection some people saw him at the Santa Rosalia feast on 18 ave. here in Brooklyn.

No one in the witness protection would not something like that if they feared being killed.


Gravano seems to be 100% psychopath. If so, he doesn't feel fear like normal people. It does not exist to him. There is a theory that dogs can detect, and don't like psychopaths, because their bodies don't sweat like normal people so the dogs react to that.

Some say the dogs are reacting to how the other humans are reacting to the psychopath, knowing that one among them is definitely not the same as the others...
U know,Phil & M.Franceze r 1 of the only one's who made a decent life after they were scumbags, & as 4 ur comment about his son,well, all i got 2 say is,... HIS SON IS A FUCKING DOCTOR NOW..get off him,leave him out of it.


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