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Has a guy ever agreed to inform then lambed it #872864
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Scenario:

-FBI pulls a guy in for some crime and threaten him with a large sentence
-This guy 'agrees' to inform on his friends and associates
-Back on the street this guy gets some money and clothes and sneaks out of the city to go on the lamb

Has anybody ever done this and what has been the opinions on the guy afterwards by his friends and associates?

Re: Has a guy ever agreed to inform then lambed it [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #872866
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billy battsia was a FBI informant in the gotti crew in the early 80s but when that prosecute tried to put him on stand he fled the country.

Craig Depalam (sad story) started cooperating then changed his mind and tried to kill himself went into a coma died a few years back i think

it has probably happened but one story that stays in my mind was the chick a philly mobsters plan in the 80s. This was after tommy del and nicky the crow flipped and they were all in prison facing all those rico trials. The chick told scarfo and leonetti he felt guilty as he brought tommy del in the mob and that he had a plan to kill tommy del he was going to tell the prosecutors he wanted to cooperate but he wanted to see tommy del first when the feds brought tommy del to him he was going to grab him and throw themselves out of a window. That is a real gangster. Scarfo was like but you would die aswell chick but the chick was like fuck that if i die at least i will be killing tommy del at the same time. Real gangster the chick


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Re: Has a guy ever agreed to inform then lambed it [Re: gangstereport] #872894
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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
billy battsia was a FBI informant in the gotti crew in the early 80s but when that prosecute tried to put him on stand he fled the country.

Craig Depalam (sad story) started cooperating then changed his mind and tried to kill himself went into a coma died a few years back i think

it has probably happened but one story that stays in my mind was the chick a philly mobsters plan in the 80s. This was after tommy del and nicky the crow flipped and they were all in prison facing all those rico trials. The chick told scarfo and leonetti he felt guilty as he brought tommy del in the mob and that he had a plan to kill tommy del he was going to tell the prosecutors he wanted to cooperate but he wanted to see tommy del first when the feds brought tommy del to him he was going to grab him and throw themselves out of a window. That is a real gangster. Scarfo was like but you would die aswell chick but the chick was like fuck that if i die at least i will be killing tommy del at the same time. Real gangster the chick


Who do you mean exactly?? Chickie Ciancaglini??


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Maybe Enrico Ponzo one of the men that tried to whack Salemme in 1989 that in 1994 went on the lam for 16 y ?
Inmate locator reported that was sentenced until 2035 but that isn't in bop custode.

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billy battsia was a FBI informant in the gotti crew in the early 80s but when that prosecute tried to put him on stand he fled the country.

Craig Depalam (sad story) started cooperating then changed his mind and tried to kill himself went into a coma died a few years back i think

it has probably happened but one story that stays in my mind was the chick a philly mobsters plan in the 80s. This was after tommy del and nicky the crow flipped and they were all in prison facing all those rico trials. The chick told scarfo and leonetti he felt guilty as he brought tommy del in the mob and that he had a plan to kill tommy del he was going to tell the prosecutors he wanted to cooperate but he wanted to see tommy del first when the feds brought tommy del to him he was going to grab him and throw themselves out of a window. That is a real gangster. Scarfo was like but you would die aswell chick but the chick was like fuck that if i die at least i will be killing tommy del at the same time. Real gangster the chick


Who do you mean exactly?? Chickie Ciancaglini??



yes it was chickie ciancaglini who said that a real gangster


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Re: Has a guy ever agreed to inform then lambed it [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #872918
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I think Craig DePalma tried to kill himself while in prison on the Atlanta Gold Club and Scores charges. He supposedly testified in front of a grand jury and later recanted his story. He was never on the lam, he was incarcerated.

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Falcone writes in his book that Craig DePalma should have never been made and that he didn't have the making of being a made man.

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Oh by the way, it's not called going on the lamb. It's "lam" lol

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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Oh by the way, it's not called going on the lamb. It's "lam" lol


I'm gonna wind up a lammist, I gotta go on the f***in' lam in order to get away from this guy? This ain't right, Beansie.


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Oh by the way, it's not called going on the lamb. It's "lam" lol


I'm gonna wind up a lammist, I gotta go on the f***in' lam in order to get away from this guy? This ain't right, Beansie.



Re: Has a guy ever agreed to inform then lambed it [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #872970
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Billy Battista was a different situation though, similar to Willie Boy. Battista was informing and would've continued to inform and taken his sentence had it not been for that chick Giacalone. She named him and basically ousted him as an FBI informant during one of the Gotti Trials, and Battista found out and disappeared, never to be seen again, by any Federal Agent. Willie Boy should've done the same, but he was on trial with Gotti, and being the man he was, he opted to sit in with his friends and try to plead his case. Gotti lured him into a false sense of security before having him killed.

The FBI hated Giacalone after she did that to Battista & Willie Boy, all to win her flimsy case that wasnt really very good anyway. It's one of the reasons she retired from law a little while after that trial was over.

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the feds killed willie boy and battista was smart enough to run. I think battistia was a hjacker and started informing for money similar to willie boy but willie boy was dealing drugs


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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Falcone writes in his book that Craig DePalma should have never been made and that he didn't have the making of being a made man.



yearh craig should never have been made apparently when he was getting his button he fucked up big time because when you get made they ask you "do you know why your hear" your supposed to reply to you dont know why you are here but when john gotti says to craig in the cermonary why are you hear craig says i am here to get my button lol john gotti was shaking his head and all those guys are just staring and then craig realizes his mistake and says "actually i am not completely sure why i am here" lol

falcones book i enjoyed good insight into alot of those guys like greg depalma robert vaccaro etc


greg was a scum bag used to hold meetings in front of his sons bed in that hospital the kid is in a coma and there greg is discussing mob business and he knew the feds would never bug the place


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Re: Has a guy ever agreed to inform then lambed it [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #872984
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That's a great story GR. LOL!

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Vito Arena had already anonymously ratted out some Gambino soldiers and busted an operation, however after getting arrested for a small crime was going to inform in the entire DeMeo crew extensively having identified himself as the anonymous source that had previously called in a tip to the FBI.

Comically though, he was arrested late at night and the shift commander encouraged the interview to occur the next morning and the arresting officers arrived the next day to find Arena had been released on a relatively minuscule cash bail.

After being baffled at the ineptitude of the NYPD and their ability to coordinate with the FBI Arena naturally decided not to flip and to skip bail.

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Sonny mercurio Boston made guy was a top echlon informant. He gave up the induction ceremony. When everyone was indicted he wasn't and disappeard then got indicted on drugs but took off for years. He wasn't exposed as a rat till the Steve flemmi trial. He died in witsec and regretted ever becoming a rat. He died alone in little rock he had a big family in Boston.

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How about Whitey Bulger?

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How about Whitey Bulger?


Bulger ratted on the mob thanks to his fbi friends he fucked the Patriarcas and helped the feds to bags the angiulo office in the 80s, when in 1994 his cover ended up he escaped for don't go in jail.
Its really different.

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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
the feds killed willie boy and battista was smart enough to run. I think battistia was a hjacker and started informing for money similar to willie boy but willie boy was dealing drugs




Why would the feds kill their former source into the Gambinos. Willie Boy never had a falling out with the feds, their relationship was always amicable, it was Giacalone who ended that relationship after ousting Willie Boy as federal informant. I think it's pretty widely known Willie Boy may have been killed by Tommy Pitera as a favor from Massino & The Bonannos to John Gotti.

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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
billy battsia was a FBI informant in the gotti crew in the early 80s but when that prosecute tried to put him on stand he fled the country.

Craig Depalam (sad story) started cooperating then changed his mind and tried to kill himself went into a coma died a few years back i think

it has probably happened but one story that stays in my mind was the chick a philly mobsters plan in the 80s. This was after tommy del and nicky the crow flipped and they were all in prison facing all those rico trials. The chick told scarfo and leonetti he felt guilty as he brought tommy del in the mob and that he had a plan to kill tommy del he was going to tell the prosecutors he wanted to cooperate but he wanted to see tommy del first when the feds brought tommy del to him he was going to grab him and throw themselves out of a window. That is a real gangster. Scarfo was like but you would die aswell chick but the chick was like fuck that if i die at least i will be killing tommy del at the same time. Real gangster the chick


Can anyone confirm the Chickie story?

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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
the feds killed willie boy and battista was smart enough to run. I think battistia was a hjacker and started informing for money similar to willie boy but willie boy was dealing drugs




Why would the feds kill their former source into the Gambinos. Willie Boy never had a falling out with the feds, their relationship was always amicable, it was Giacalone who ended that relationship after ousting Willie Boy as federal informant. I think it's pretty widely known Willie Boy may have been killed by Tommy Pitera as a favor from Massino & The Bonannos to John Gotti.


I meant the proscuter she fucked willie boy and battsia over Feds never forgave her they lost inside knowledge in the gotti crew


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Originally Posted By: ShotgunTheRifle
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
billy battsia was a FBI informant in the gotti crew in the early 80s but when that prosecute tried to put him on stand he fled the country.

Craig Depalam (sad story) started cooperating then changed his mind and tried to kill himself went into a coma died a few years back i think

it has probably happened but one story that stays in my mind was the chick a philly mobsters plan in the 80s. This was after tommy del and nicky the crow flipped and they were all in prison facing all those rico trials. The chick told scarfo and leonetti he felt guilty as he brought tommy del in the mob and that he had a plan to kill tommy del he was going to tell the prosecutors he wanted to cooperate but he wanted to see tommy del first when the feds brought tommy del to him he was going to grab him and throw themselves out of a window. That is a real gangster. Scarfo was like but you would die aswell chick but the chick was like fuck that if i die at least i will be killing tommy del at the same time. Real gangster the chick


Can anyone confirm the Chickie story?


Philip leonetti


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Oh yeh going on the lamb is what Welsh people do lol


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