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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #878328
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Speaking of unrealistic, how about a mobster with a ponytail.

I mean, really?

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: OakAsFan] #878335
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You both are correct but to me that is what makes it an unrealistic scenario. Most if not all real mobsters are sociopaths and don't give a damn what people outside the life think of them. Inside the life they want respect and they have to earn it through fear. It's just my opinion but in a real life situation friendship or no friendship Tony would have taken the restaurant or at least a portion of it. It would also be more profitable to take the restaurant than try to collect from the French guy who has nothing of value to Tony.
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #878420
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Was killing Adriana realistic?

I mean if you were to think about the mob when that was filmed 2005ish, would they kill a girlfriend of a member who might be snitching or would they kick her out of their circle?

I know they did back in the 60s or 70s with Mary Bali but considering how much the murders have declined since the 90s its interesting to know what they would do nowadays.
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: Bozak] #878500
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Christopher lasted a lot longer than he should have. The absolute last straw should have been after the hit on Adriana when Tony found him high at the Bada Bing watching the Three Amigos. Also it's a little unrealistic that he wasn't noticed by anyone being as high as he was at the street festival.
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: SicilianDownSouth] #878631
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Everyone knew but they had no say. Tony was in denial of it. It was his delusion of grandeur that he was Don Corleone and Chris was Michael. Another reason Tony was not boss material.

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #878640
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Silvio always disliked him, then Paulie later on after he joined his crew and realized what a whiney little bitch Christopher was. Always playing the nephew card and not playing by the rules.

If Tony had died somehow early on in the show, Silvio would have taken Christopher out in a heartbeat.
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #882752
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When Furio was on his first assignment- taking out the massage parlour even smacking customers.... Especially shooting the owner in the knees at end whilst Tony sits outside smirking

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #882828
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I guess today we live in much different times and they were American born Italians not off the boat Sicilians but I feel like in no scenario would Ralph Cifaretto, a wild-card soldier with a worse than usual rep would be allowed to date Rosalie Aprile within a year after Jackie dying and Ralph coming back from running point for the DiMeo Family in Miami fairly openly displaying a coke habit upon return. I know there are real life situations Like Linda Scarfo having an "arrangment" and Debbie Merlino allegedy sleeping around while Joey was inside but a boss direct with New York dying of cancer I feel deems Rosalie off limits but I understand the point was to progress Ralph's and Jackie Junior's storyline's by connecting them to Tony and Meadow through Rosalie. It works for the sake of TV, but in real life I think it would be a definite off limit situation.
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #883163
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Tony having done a semester at College, when the whole story was that he was always destined to follow his father into the life.

It just seems abit unrealistic to me, if Tony was looking to impress his old man, then i doubt the last thing he'd be doing was enrolling into college courses and focusing on higher education in the hopes of some legit career.

How he even had the grades to get into college either, would imply he was academically good at school previously, which again seems abit of a stretch.

The flashback scene with him and Tony B, he looks nothing like a budding wiseguy either and must be in his early 20s at that point. Tony looks more like a college stoner in that scene lol.

To be honest all the flashback scenes of younger Tony, nothing in his demeanor really implied he would be capable of turning into a ruthless mob boss.

But then again maybe that was the whole point of these scenes, to show Tony in a softer manner, before turning into what he did.

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: Jhype11] #885750
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Originally Posted By: Jhype11
Was killing Adriana realistic?

I mean if you were to think about the mob when that was filmed 2005ish, would they kill a girlfriend of a member who might be snitching or would they kick her out of their circle?

I know they did back in the 60s or 70s with Mary Bali but considering how much the murders have declined since the 90s its interesting to know what they would do nowadays.


Not only they'd kill her, but there's no chance Christopher would get away with it too.
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: DonKostic] #885769
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Originally Posted By: Jhype11
Was killing Adriana realistic?

I mean if you were to think about the mob when that was filmed 2005ish, would they kill a girlfriend of a member who might be snitching or would they kick her out of their circle?

I know they did back in the 60s or 70s with Mary Bali but considering how much the murders have declined since the 90s its interesting to know what they would do nowadays.


Not only they'd kill her, but there's no chance Christopher would get away with it too.


I dont think that the fbi would have allowed her out of their site at all during that time period.
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: afriendofours] #885778
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Originally Posted By: afriendofours

The flashback scene with him and Tony B, he looks nothing like a budding wiseguy either and must be in his early 20s at that point. Tony looks more like a college stoner in that scene lol.


They made him look as much like a young James Gandolfini as they could:




(Gandolfini is in the backrow, number 45)

As to budding wiseguys not looking like stoners?

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: JackieAprile] #885781
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Is that Gravano in the Colombo days?

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: afriendofours] #885826
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Originally Posted By: afriendofours
Tony having done a semester at College, when the whole story was that he was always destined to follow his father into the life.

It just seems abit unrealistic to me, if Tony was looking to impress his old man, then i doubt the last thing he'd be doing was enrolling into college courses and focusing on higher education in the hopes of some legit career.

How he even had the grades to get into college either, would imply he was academically good at school previously, which again seems abit of a stretch.

The flashback scene with him and Tony B, he looks nothing like a budding wiseguy either and must be in his early 20s at that point. Tony looks more like a college stoner in that scene lol.

To be honest all the flashback scenes of younger Tony, nothing in his demeanor really implied he would be capable of turning into a ruthless mob boss.

But then again maybe that was the whole point of these scenes, to show Tony in a softer manner, before turning into what he did.


Alphonse Persico went to college and had the aptitude to move into an esteemed profession.

Sergio Battaglia had a high-paying job at a car dealership before swiftly moving up through the ranks in the Stanfa crime family.

Salvatore Vitale worked as a corrections officer before a remarkable rise to #2 in the Bonanno crime family.

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #886662
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How about how he keeps an ak47,I believe a grenade, and other weapons in that hidden compartment in his house. The Fed's wouldn't have been able to find that?
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #886912
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Tony as a boss participating in the hits on Bevilacqua, the rat at the college visit, Ralph, Tony B, Pussy, Christopher, etc..

Not any one killing in particular..just the fact that a boss participated in so many...most of which were while he was the boss..

"I'll give you undignified. Go fuck yourself. You, Phil... whoever. He's my fuckin' cousin."

"My name is George. I'm unemployed and live with my parents"..
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #887181
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Tony was just the "Street Boss" so did the dirty work still, but i see your point. And the Rat at the college had to be done there and then.

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #912351
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This is VERY REALISTIC. I can completely relate to Meadow in this scene. And it is much better for everyone to NEVER tell your Italian father about men who bother you because 9 times out of 10, the outcome is not good.

https://youtu.be/hCBUOVJ0YLc


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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: Alfanosgirl] #912765
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Originally Posted By: Alfanosgirl
This is VERY REALISTIC. I can completely relate to Meadow in this scene. And it is much better for everyone to NEVER tell your Italian father about men who bother you because 9 times out of 10, the outcome is not good.

https://youtu.be/hCBUOVJ0YLc


There is NO such thing as Forgive and Forget in the Italian male DNA.


Meadow inadvertently starts a mob war. lol.

Great camera work following Tony into the restaurant, hand on the gun as Coco obliviously laughs it up with Butchie.

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: OakAsFan] #912868
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Originally Posted By: Alfanosgirl
This is VERY REALISTIC. I can completely relate to Meadow in this scene. And it is much better for everyone to NEVER tell your Italian father about men who bother you because 9 times out of 10, the outcome is not good.

https://youtu.be/hCBUOVJ0YLc


There is NO such thing as Forgive and Forget in the Italian male DNA.


Meadow inadvertently starts a mob war. lol.

Great camera work following Tony into the restaurant, hand on the gun as Coco obliviously laughs it up with Butchie.

You know that's a great point you just made. All the soprano women (with livia's blood) were involved with problems for tony. Livia with junior, Janice was always up to something but she really had put a battery in.richie's back, the meadow with coco in a totally different and justifiable reason. Might not have been David chase's intention but it worked out that way. Maybe in this case I'm over analyzing.
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Originally Posted By: BobbyPazzo
Might not have been David chase's intention but it worked out that way. Maybe in this case I'm over analyzing.


There's no such thing as over analyzing when it comes to this show, that's one of the best parts of it. Still miss it unlike any other cancelled show, Breaking Bad and The Wire being a close second..

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Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: BillyBrizzi] #913195
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: BobbyPazzo
Might not have been David chase's intention but it worked out that way. Maybe in this case I'm over analyzing.


There's no such thing as over analyzing when it comes to this show, that's one of the best parts of it. Still miss it unlike any other cancelled show, Breaking Bad and The Wire being a close second..

Gomorrah is good too(not like the sopranos imo, but still good).
Re: The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos. [Re: CleanBandit] #914956
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When Chris gets made and that crow suddenly appears in the window when he gets his finger pricked...like an impending curse or something. I always thought that was a a little over the top when it comes to realism.
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I think the scene when they whacked Big Pussy was a lil far fetched. In real life they wouldn’t have had a drink and strolled down memory lane.
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