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gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder #864139
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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864225
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The more I learn about the Detroit mob, the more I come to realize that they were some sophisticated and stealth, top of the line players..

I mean to get away with a murder of this magnitude is something that I really don't see happening these days.

When I look at the latest hit of the Philly mob with this guy Nicodemo, it really sets in what the difference is with the present and the past.

I know it's comparing apples with oranges a bit, but still...


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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864261
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I don't know how many theories include Genovese guys on the scene of the hit but the family was certainly right at the heart of giving the OK to have Hoffa hit. Detroit didn't make that move on their own.


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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864265
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Detroit was big time, I've brought it up a lot, the alliance with Profaci, dope, the teamsters, Sicily, ect... Pretty fascinating group if you read about em..

Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: IvyLeague] #864284
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
I don't know how many theories include Genovese guys on the scene of the hit but the family was certainly right at the heart of giving the OK to have Hoffa hit. Detroit didn't make that move on their own.


Nobody is saying they made the move on their own, so I'm not really sure why you are even bringing that up unless you didnt read the article. It is about who physically committed the act itself. Not who was in on deciding he had to go.

Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: BillyBrizzi] #864304
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi

The more I learn about the Detroit mob, the more I come to realize that they were some sophisticated and stealth, top of the line players..

I mean to get away with a murder of this magnitude is something that I really don't see happening these days.

When I look at the latest hit of the Philly mob with this guy Nicodemo, it really sets in what the difference is with the present and the past.

I know it's comparing apples with oranges a bit, but still...


very good summary of the detroit mob from its begining up to 21st centuary



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw9FKOm5ulE


reason they are so succsesful is that they all bring in there kids half of them married into each others familys loads of them are related. Today they are manily involved in gambling and loansharking also low scale drugs and extoration and manily legit business

tony lapiana the underboss sold his medical company for 50 mil jack tocco was worth tens of millions in legit business jackie the kid the current boss lives in a mansion


they are very very low key carlo bommanartetio was the last murder/overdose the mob was said to be involved in a overdose but law enforcment believe it might have been intentional overdose billy jack is one of the big suspects but he is dead now his own father is a suspect



last time a detroit mobster has killed someone was 1934 and one made guy has ever flipped in 2000 nocco tocco


intersting esp in the thrid documentary the FBI agents opinion on the size and power of the family


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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864326
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Thing is, Jackie doesnt look like he has any interest in making anyone new

he already cut it down to 4 capos

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Oh Gawd, here we go again


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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: Blackjack2121] #864333
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Thing is, Jackie doesnt look like he has any interest in making anyone new

he already cut it down to 4 capos


to be fair the ruggetta brothers were getting too old there crew is too small there is no young blood if tocco had been there it would have had to be cut the ruggeta brothers have been semi reitried for years even at there height that crew was small


there is some young guys we keep hereing about the guy who everyone calls gotti who is jackies driver but then again one of scotts sources said that the kid is being scammed by jackie the kid


the main crew is the old gicacanole crew which joey jack leads. Frankie the bombs old crew is quite big but davey is nothing compared to frankie

i dont even think jackie is a good boss too bitter i mean shelving frankie come on and was killing the blade back in 2002 really nessearcy i mean they onky had to shelve the guy tony z would have got the message


the other crew big pauls crew he recently spoke to scott and said he had nothing to do with the mob. The guy is not the sharpest guy i mean a massive part of the gametax bust came from nocco tocco and big paul tapes


the siggs are stronger than people think the D`anaas brothers though are nuts jackie is scared of them not detroit style they came over in the 90s but they are not the low key no violence normal detroit style


i mean they battered that guy who owned that restaurant in the middle of the street i mean come on they will both get heavy sentences now

peter tocco is the most respected well liked. Tony Pal is old and LaPiana is 90% legit

losing the general has hurt people more than they think used to kick up 200k just at christmas directly to the boss



we dont know if jackie does not want to make guys all we know is that he keeps a tight inner circle just like jack tocco

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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864335
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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Thing is, Jackie doesnt look like he has any interest in making anyone new

he already cut it down to 4 capos


to be fair the ruggetta brothers were getting too old there crew is too small there is no young blood if tocco had been there it would have had to be cut the ruggeta brothers have been semi reitried for years even at there height that crew was small


there is some young guys we keep hereing about the guy who everyone calls gotti who is jackies driver but then again one of scotts sources said that the kid is being scammed by jackie the kid


the main crew is the old gicacanole crew which joey jack leads. Frankie the bombs old crew is quite big but davey is nothing compared to frankie

i dont even think jackie is a good boss too bitter i mean shelving frankie come on and was killing the blade back in 2002 really nessearcy i mean they onky had to shelve the guy tony z would have got the message


the other crew big pauls crew he recently spoke to scott and said he had nothing to do with the mob. The guy is not the sharpest guy i mean a massive part of the gametax bust came from nocco tocco and big paul tapes


the siggs are stronger than people think the D`anaas brothers though are nuts jackie is scared of them not detroit style they came over in the 90s but they are not the low key no violence normal detroit style


i mean they battered that guy who owned that restaurant in the middle of the street i mean come on they will both get heavy sentences now

peter tocco is the most respected well liked. Tony Pal is old and LaPiana is 90% legit

losing the general has hurt people more than they think used to kick up 200k just at christmas directly to the boss



we dont know if jackie does not want to make guys all we know is that he keeps a tight inner circle just like jack tocco


Where do you get this stuff besides Scott?

Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: IvyLeague] #864337
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
I don't know how many theories include Genovese guys on the scene of the hit but the family was certainly right at the heart of giving the OK to have Hoffa hit. Detroit didn't make that move on their own.

The End.

No way it went down without Tony Pro getting word from Funzi or Squint that it was okay. No fucking way.


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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864339
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Very likely all the hitters were from Detroit. Why would they need to bring in anyone fron NY?

Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864341
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I think all the article says is that Tony Pro is always considered the prime suspect, but the NewYorkers let Detroit handle it, that's about all I got from the article...

Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864342
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Detroits connects to Jersey genovese go back to Adonis, is it?

Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: mightyhealthy] #864346
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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Thing is, Jackie doesnt look like he has any interest in making anyone new

he already cut it down to 4 capos


to be fair the ruggetta brothers were getting too old there crew is too small there is no young blood if tocco had been there it would have had to be cut the ruggeta brothers have been semi reitried for years even at there height that crew was small


there is some young guys we keep hereing about the guy who everyone calls gotti who is jackies driver but then again one of scotts sources said that the kid is being scammed by jackie the kid


the main crew is the old gicacanole crew which joey jack leads. Frankie the bombs old crew is quite big but davey is nothing compared to frankie

i dont even think jackie is a good boss too bitter i mean shelving frankie come on and was killing the blade back in 2002 really nessearcy i mean they onky had to shelve the guy tony z would have got the message


the other crew big pauls crew he recently spoke to scott and said he had nothing to do with the mob. The guy is not the sharpest guy i mean a massive part of the gametax bust came from nocco tocco and big paul tapes


the siggs are stronger than people think the D`anaas brothers though are nuts jackie is scared of them not detroit style they came over in the 90s but they are not the low key no violence normal detroit style


i mean they battered that guy who owned that restaurant in the middle of the street i mean come on they will both get heavy sentences now

peter tocco is the most respected well liked. Tony Pal is old and LaPiana is 90% legit

losing the general has hurt people more than they think used to kick up 200k just at christmas directly to the boss



we dont know if jackie does not want to make guys all we know is that he keeps a tight inner circle just like jack tocco


Where do you get this stuff besides Scott?



some stuff i get from scott alot of it comes from old newspaper articles about the detroit mob. The gametax indictment i learn alot from about the family the tapes and the indicment explains alot and a guy on another site (he stopped going on nearly a year ago) told me alot about these guys as well. The documentaries help.

detroit mob even today is still making money even if it is a shadow of its former self the 2006 jack gicacanlone indictments the FBI said $5.9 million between 1998 and 2006

detroit mob is the family i am prob the most interested in very interesting family


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Re: gangstereport: New theory into hoffa murder [Re: gangstereport] #864369
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Scott's specialty, is really Detroit to be honest. So even he did get all that info from Scott, it's info other mob authors and researchers were never able to gather and provide. Just look as his Detroit mob doc.

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What did people think of the movie?


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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Thing is, Jackie doesnt look like he has any interest in making anyone new

he already cut it down to 4 capos


to be fair the ruggetta brothers were getting too old there crew is too small there is no young blood if tocco had been there it would have had to be cut the ruggeta brothers have been semi reitried for years even at there height that crew was small


there is some young guys we keep hereing about the guy who everyone calls gotti who is jackies driver but then again one of scotts sources said that the kid is being scammed by jackie the kid


the main crew is the old gicacanole crew which joey jack leads. Frankie the bombs old crew is quite big but davey is nothing compared to frankie

i dont even think jackie is a good boss too bitter i mean shelving frankie come on and was killing the blade back in 2002 really nessearcy i mean they onky had to shelve the guy tony z would have got the message


the other crew big pauls crew he recently spoke to scott and said he had nothing to do with the mob. The guy is not the sharpest guy i mean a massive part of the gametax bust came from nocco tocco and big paul tapes


the siggs are stronger than people think the D`anaas brothers though are nuts jackie is scared of them not detroit style they came over in the 90s but they are not the low key no violence normal detroit style


i mean they battered that guy who owned that restaurant in the middle of the street i mean come on they will both get heavy sentences now

peter tocco is the most respected well liked. Tony Pal is old and LaPiana is 90% legit

losing the general has hurt people more than they think used to kick up 200k just at christmas directly to the boss



we dont know if jackie does not want to make guys all we know is that he keeps a tight inner circle just like jack tocco


pete tocco..."gotti" isnt that young...he has been around for a while i wouldnt say he is really a young up and comer

as far as big paul contacting scott saying he isnt in the mob...he is full of shit lol

he is a known made member

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Originally Posted By: Carosophia
Oh Gawd, here we go again


gawd?

that some sort of slang for god?

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