I see in a documentary that in the 1980 a cop from las vegas went to Chicago to say that if Spilotro and his crew will kill a cop,he and other cops will come back to chicago and kill the Outfit bosses relatives.

So las vegas cops threaten to kill the bosses relatives, and all this because of the conduct of Spilotro. Now already it's serious that a cop threatens a made man, let alone a boss.

So why the outfit he waited another six years to kill Spilotro? while if it killed before they could salvage something in las vegas.

They was still making money with him .When they went To prison they blame Him so he was whacked . Who Know if that is true about the cop but maybe he did go there nothing happen so the threat was like a fart in the wind

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But I watch it on National Geographic The Godfathers on the episode on Tony Spilotro you can watch after the 27:22 minute the chief Clifford that explaine how he went to Chicago for threat the mob boss.

in 1980 a vegas cop gonna go to chitown and kill the bosses. May have made the threat but in the end, I don't think so.

The important is that the bosses believe that a cop could kill his families.

and if the cop dared he would have been whacked end of



tony kicked back good money and was well respected by some

And then whoever whacked the cop would be whacked by fellow cops. And then those cops would be whacked by the mafia. And then another payback by the cops. And so on.
But I think in open war the cops would have won. The mafia survives because they don't go to open war against law enforcement. In Sicily they tried, got their butt kicked and changed strategy. Don't think in America they could scare the cops with purely military/terroristic tactics. The only such attempt was by Rosario Borgio in Akron in the beginning of the century and ended with the electric chair.

to be honest i dont think the cops would have had the balls but thats my personl opinion the heat would be big though no way a cop in vegas would fly into chicago to kill a wiseguy spiltro might have ended up dead but he was a crazy fuck he and frankie c would have fought

there was a plot tony and his guys were involved in alledgly to whack the cops but the feds held a sitdown with tony but tension was real high between the two tony ruled vegas it was like two goverments at that time

I've dealt with the Vegas cops. Let me put it this way: I would not be surprised if this story were true.

When it comes to Mob hits, always follow the money.

As long as The Ant was a good earner, and was kicking back his share to the bosses, he was ok with them. But, when he started getting high on his own supply, and acting like he was the total boss of Vegas, he had to go.

Right you are! Spilotro was a drug addict.

Something I have wondered recently is why did the outfit kill him the way they did? With several higher ups in attendance? Why not jus two to the head?

Spilotro could talk a big game and for this he had many friends in the outfit. Unfortuneatly much of his profits came from slinging as opposed to bringing in money from other venues. However as time rolled on he was hardly functioning due to his addiction. He also thumbed his nose at enforcement. But again the mob is like a church in where the guy who can talk a big game can almost be made, hell I've seen guys get made because they were good on the barbecue fuckin right!

Why thank You lol yeah I Saw it when the Cop said it they should of had a Shoot out would of been good Yeah I watch them All

Aiuppa, Cerone and LaPetea basically received what amounted to life sentences for skimming in 86. They largely blamed Tony for bringing so much heat on them in Vegas. And he had managed to escape prosecution himself.

In short, they were enraged.

But wouldn't he have been convicted if alive? I thought he wasn't convicted only because of his death.

i dont know he managed to beat that first trial by paying of a judge knowing the power he had in Vegas he could have beaten the cases he was facing. I think at the end he was facing three rico trials but like i said before the power this guy had alot of influence i mean he ran las veags had more power than anyone and i mean anyone.

No idea but I know his attorney Oscar Goodman always maintained that they would have won.

In any event, I doubt the bosses cared as much about that as the fact that they were going to spend their golden years in Club Fed, and might not have been if Spilotro hadn't caused so much trouble.

I will say this much those cops didn't go up to Accardo or Aiuppa and threaten them. They may have given a threat to an underling like Ferriola, Lomabardo, Difronzo, or Carlisi. But they definitely didn't threaten them two personally. But the threat to one of the underlings was probably one of the nails in the coffin so to speak.

Spilotro was named in the same indictment as Aiuppa, Cerone, LaPietra, and Lombardo but he was severed due to health problems (I believe it was his heart). He was dead before he ever went to trial but seeing as how everyone else went down, I can't see how he would have beaten it.

his trial was in las vegas he ran it everything was his. He was also facing two other rico trials but like i said the power he had was crazy. Not to mention he already beat the murder thing with frankie c as the witness


oscar was a good lawyer for tony if anyone could have done it would have been tony

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Crime scene photo - Tony Above

Both those guys died a horrible death

They wanted to make sure nothing went wrong with the hit because it could lead to a lot of trouble. Imagine botching the hit and having Spilotro coming after you or even flipping. The thorough beating was for the troubles he caused that sent Aiuppa, Cerone, Lombardo, and LaPietra to prison.

Considering that those particular bosses blamed him for their life sentences...am I the only one who thinks they kind of got off easy? Yes by being murdered/buried alive...I am suggesting/asking if they maybe got off easy...?

Not that I would want to get beaten to death with baseball bats but...scary as it is there are far worse ways to go down...and for the amount of shit he brought down (which the bosses let him), he makes such a great scapegoat for the bosses...

According to Nick Calabrese (who was there), the beating in the house wasn't with baseball bats like in the movie. Those present simply beat them with their hands and feet and strangled them to death.


"Forensic pathologist Dr. John Pless testified last month that autopsies of the Spilotros, in which he took part, determined that multiple blunt trauma injuries to the head, neck and chest-most likely the result of punches and kicks, not bats-caused the brothers' deaths. The Spilotros, Pless added, died partly as a result of their lungs and airways being so full of blood, they couldn't breathe."
http://mobile.oakpark.com/News/Articles/8-14-2007/Details-of-Spilotro-murders-revealed-in-mob-trial/

Was just watching clips of Pesci in Casino on YouTube again.

Was Spilotro truly as vicious and violent as Pesci was in that movie?

Well he actually did put a guy'said head in a vice and tightened it until his eye popped out. So I would say yes.

frankie c gave up those guys up but like the movie showed they were asking for trouble frankie c warned them did not listen frankie was not mob back then so he was supposed to get whacked but tony saved his life and then tony made him give up the others set them up

Maybe the 1.5 million dollar debt earned him a beating inside of bullets.http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-06-25/news/8602150373_1_anthony-spilotro-joseph-aiuppa-mob

Yeah he whacked around 25 guys