I don't really know much about prison, toured one once, and I've got two family members doing some time, but still not very knowledgable.

I've always found this to be a bit odd to me. Because yeah, the mob guys are ruthless, or use to be, and murder was the name of the game. However, prison is a whole different ball game. I would assume those guys, the Mexicans, white supremacists, aren't really intimidated by the LCN guys.
If you're pinched on lets says a RICO, however no murder etc... Do they place you in a min-security? I've always wondered how they fair, because there are so many established prison gangs thought the US. And I can't inagine LCN having a huge presence in maybe more than one prison. This may all be from my lack of knowledge on prison and LCN, but I figured I'd ask.


--- if anyone here would be willing to answer some questions on NY, NJ, Canada, pm me, or we can email. I'd much appreciate it! I don't want to make a thousand threads. I also didn't want to start a thread with a thousand questions. Have done so much reading recently and a ton of questions have arisen.

Think there are a few additional threads on this topic but here's a recent one:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=808138&page=1

Usually the mob guys find the biggest , scariest guy, and suck his dick, and then there protected after that.

in prison if you stay with your own no problem if you want to hang out with different groups you will get caught up.. politics big time in prison

The Gambinos has an alliance with the Aryan Brotherhood and the other families,if the made men are old and went to to a prison outsite the east coast for sure have a deal with the most powerful gangs in the prison and pay for protection.

In the mafia prince book Leonetti that payed two mexicans for be his uncle's bodyguards,scarfo calls him my 2 pistoleros and belong to the mexican mafia.

This is an example,the mafiosi are tought guys and in prison this is enought to take the respect of the normal prisoner for the gang members must pay for avoid problems and don't make the end of Pete Scibetta.

In Italy the thing is difference if the members of ndrangheta,camorra or mafia don't stay in the 42 bis,the other prisoners don't touch him or will be killed; there are few case Michele Tripodo killed by the NCO as a favour to the De Stefano ndrina,Mike Turatello killed in 1983.

in italy there are not prison gangs and the prisons are dominated by mafia-ndrangheta-camorra bosses... even if they are under 41 bis they order what to do to other inmates
in the states the mafiosi have several people around only in the eastern prisons

m2w is the same thing that I said before.

That's what I heard too.

most wiseguys live their whole lives being the type to not be intimitated or pushed around by anybody. so while they're not running thr place, they're not getting bullied either. id imagine the more reasonable ones who are doing short bids stick to themselves and try to do the easiest time possible, which is the goal of any semi-reasonable person in there.

gotti getting attacked and the whole AB thing was overblown. people always bring that up to argue that LCN isnt as strong as it once was, but its more about how in prison anybody could get it from anyone at any time. imo

That was Gotti's own fault. Gotti was respected in prison, but he thought just because he's John Gotti that meant he could punk another inmate without retribution. Once you step to another inmate, all bets are off. Just look at Gigante. He was 12 years older than Gotti and had no problems in when he went to prison.

In mike franzese autobiography he said the Mexican inmates never bothered him and only kept asking him how to get Inducted. (Really they should of asked advice of jack falcone)

lol

Gotti got assaulted by a big black man.

Amuso got assaulted by Scarpa Jr.

Persico got OJ'd in the face.

Stanfa got bashed in the face with a soda can.

Some inmates are clearly not intimidated by LCN guys and will even attack LCN bosses.

yes but they are the exceptions mafiosi are street guys and have connections inmates attacked in prison are the most vulnerable, of course not the mafiosi that in the eastern prisons have several guys around them... they outnumbered albanians and won in a prison recently

can someoen elaborat about Persico getting snack on the face, which pérsico lol some many of em in in jail

From memory....

Persico likes to sit near a window in the mess hall at lunchtime.......but the problem was some black inmates were seated there.
Persico motioned to the black inmates to leave the table but the black shotcaller seated at the table politely told Persico that they will leave the table once they have finished their lunch.
Persico persisted and the top guy for the blacks threw orange juice in his face.

The CN guys that were with Persico were too pussy to do anything about it, and Persico walked off in humiliation with his guys meekly tailing behind.

From that moment forward, Persico instructed his guys to make sure they got to that table first.....and Persico got to enjoy his lunch at his favourite table ever since.

Giuseppe Salvia deputy director of the poggioreale prison, slapped Raffaele Cutolo in 1981 and tried to put an end to the privileges of Cutolo in prison, shortly after he was killed by order of cutolo; this is one of the difference between the United States and Italy.

ok i did read the Jerry Capeci artcle but did not say what really ,, ecexpt for that pérsico had manage to reclain his favorite seat at the prison chow hall thanx for the infooo

Never heard that incident with scarpa jr before,

http://nydailynews.com/archives/news/hit-squad-guns-jailed-mob-capo-article-1.708124


HIT SQUAD GUNS FOR A JAILED MOB CAPO



Colombo capo Gregory Scarpa Jr. has been marked for death by the mob because he severely beat Luchese boss Vittorio Amuso in jail after Amuso called his father a rat, sources said yesterday. All five families have put out a contract to kill Scarpa, 43, because Amuso is a member of The Commission, the mob's governing body. Scarpa's father, Gregory Scarpa Sr., was an FBI informant for 30 years. "He raised his hands to a member of The [Mafia's] Commission he's got no one on his side," said a law enforcement source. Scarpa, who had been imprisoned with Amuso in Terre Haute, Ind., has been moved into solitary confinement at the Metropolitan Correctional Center for his own protection. Amuso, 60, was hospitalized briefly and needed stitches to close facial and head wounds he suffered two weeks ago in the cellblock fight, law enforcement officials said. Authorities had feared a Luchese/Colombo war and began separating imprisoned members of the two families, but sources said those fears have been put to rest.

"The only blood spilled will be Scarpa Junior's. His own family cannot help him now," said one underworld source. Like imprisoned-for-life Gambino boss John Gotti, Amuso has kept his official position as Luchese boss and as such is a member of The Commission. Amuso remains in the general population of the federal pen in Terre Haute, where he triggered Scarpa's rage by chiding him for "strutting" like an important man when his father had been an FBI informant. "Your father was a rat. You should be ashamed," said Amuso. Scarpa clocked Amuso immediately, knocking him down, sources said. Amuso fought back but was "beaten pretty badly before Scarpa was pulled off him by other inmates," said one source. Already serving 20 years for drug dealing, Scarpa lost his cool soon after learning that the feds had hit him with new racketeering and murder charges that could mean life in prison and were preparing to ship him to Brooklyn to plead to the new indictment.

After getting to New York, Scarpa pleaded innocent, and was placed in a virtual isolation unit to await trial May. Amuso is serving life for a 1992 federal murder and racketeering conviction. The senior Scarpa was a long-time FBI mole. But by the time he died in prison of AIDS last year, authorities also were aware that Scarpa had often used his position to help his and his son's mob rackets.

Is this just law enforcement stirring shit up to keep Scarpa jr in isolation?! I find it hard to believe that the other bosses give two shits about Amuso getting a jail house ass kicking

That's nothing compared to what Sanfa did in retaliation, though.

What did stanfa do in retaliation? Is there an article somewhere about it? would love to hear the whole story...

Here is the story told by a convict.....

http://www.gorillaconvict.com/2011/10/the-sixth-family-by-robert-rosso-2/

Thanks but that seems like a bullshit story lol

What did Stanfa do in retaliation?

You just posted a link to the story. He had him cut up with a razor and his knee busted.

Yeah I know, just making a point for HandsomeStevie.

See, it's not a bullshit story.

Anyone seen that pic in "Five Families " book of Persico along with some Quack quack lookalike, some fat guy who looks like he ate one too many pies, and an old man who seems to think a bandana around the forehead makes him tough- that's his backup team