A partial copy and paste or what I posted in a thread that I'm no longer posting in.

The guys who live modest lifestyles in the Genovese Family---even the millionaires---outnumber the guys who "live it up" by ten to one. That's how they groom their guys. Cirillo is the standard, the other guys you mentioned are exceptions.

How about Ernie? Lives right around the block in Locust Point. He's about the heaviest Westsider in the Bronx right now. Small house. Same deal as Dom. How about Benny Eggs, even though he's retired? Made millions, lived like any other old man downtown. Or Joe Sass? Or Ross? Or Al G? Or Louie D? Or Sammy and his kid? Or Ralphie B? Or Fritzy? Or Rom and Tony? How about any of them? A few of them live very comfortably, but they don't show off. But you wouldn't know any of that from, New Zealand, is it?

And for the record, Barney doesn't "live it up." His home was decorated beautifully on the inside but it was modest on the outside. And the furnishings were his wife's doing, God rest her soul. His condo in Bal Harbour was gorgeous, but so what? That's Florida. A million down there will buy you a palace. And since his wife passed away, the guy could go live in a studio apartment and it wouldn't bother him a bit. But he's very close to his adult kids and grandkids, so he kept the house in Westchester.

With out saying anything out of line who is still active of the guys that were comming up with Dom and Chin ?

Two or three are semi-active. And by semi-active, I usually mean the same thing. An old shy book that one of the guys you groomed makes sure you get paid from every week. It's only right. You taught them, they take care of you in your old age. It's like a street version of Social Security.

Or in the case of QD and maybe one other guy, it might include a small trucking company or two truck garbage route in North Jersey or Rockland County.

Understood and the family still does it on the quiet way !
So with out a doubt the young guys did learn from the old,with out that time you clearly have a mess that we see in many areas of families.

Our friend "Downtown" just mentioned this in the other, less reputable thread about him. But modest lifestyle aside, Dom was a Hell of a dresser, and one of very few Westsiders who was always dressed to the nines. And I'm talking YEARS before Gotti (the anti-QD) made the cover of Time magazine.

And that DePalma was always a problem ,but someone is responsible for covering and bring him along ....wonder if that guy or guys are still alive ...

PB, Who proposed greg?

I think he was he made by Castellano but I could be wrong.

And lastly, was it Greg who proposed Craig?

I had a pitcher of dos aquis for lunch so that probably isn't helping lol.

pizz, hope you're feeling better today buddy

I will say that ernies house is a lot smaller than i wouldve thought compared to a guy like barney or dannys. if you want to see a westside guy with a lot of flash go look at allies house on the hill in si. or ninnys house on the shore, looks like a castle... Carmine sciandra lives pretty close to allie in si, drives a maserati... Then again at least its not a rolls like ally persico or lobardozzi had back in the day. Cali's got a fucking mansion on the hill too now that i think about it. there was some asshole on ave x in Brooklyn that had a bentley... cant think of the guy, you could see it outside that shack that passed itself off as a cafe on McDonald ave too. maybe craig marino??? fuck my memory is going, I had a pitcher of dos aquis for lunch so that probably isn't helping lol.

pizz, hope you're feeling better today buddy