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Drugs #846626
06/17/15 05:43 PM
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Are there any families large or small that have nothing to do with drugs?


We all know the 'deal and die' bullshit, but did any families really stick by this ?


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nobody stuck to this rule.the guys who made it broke it

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There is no way of knowing for sure .
But I think Nicky Scarfo sr. thought he had nothing to do with the importing exporting or the sale of drugs what so ever.

I know about the meth chemical thing ,I think he was lied to .
Just some reason I think in his mind he had nothing to do with drugs.


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That's one thing I always respected about the bonnanos and also the Sicilian mafia( Rosario and John gambino) they were drug dealers and didn't pretend they were anything but. All the other families were hypocrites in that regard . They were anti drug publicly but none shied away from taking drug money when it flowed up the ladder .

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Originally Posted By: BKLYN2NASSAU
That's one thing I always respected about the bonnanos and also the Sicilian mafia( Rosario and John gambino) they were drug dealers and didn't pretend they were anything but. All the other families were hypocrites in that regard . They were anti drug publicly but none shied away from taking drug money when it flowed up the ladder .

Joe Bonanno, to his dying day, denied involvement in drugs. He even said his trip to Sicily in 1957 to meet with Luciano and Sicilian Mafiosi to set up another drug pipeline was a "vacation."

Hypocrisy is how the Mob rationalizes drug dealing. On the one hand, drug dealing heightens the possibility that a family member nailed by the law will rat out higher-ups. On the other hand, the Mafia hierarchy is a pyramid scheme. If the Dons enforced a ban on drug dealing, they'd be cut out of a lucrative source of income that gets kicked up to them. So they decree death for anyone caught dealing drugs. That way, what they don't know won't hurt them. It also has a Darwinian effect: the weaker guys (the ones most likely to screw up and be caught) are deterred; the stronger guys (the best and safest earners) do the dealing--and the kicking up of profits to the Don.,


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Re: Drugs [Re: British] #846685
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Originally Posted By: British
Are there any families large or small that have nothing to do with drugs? ?

No.

Originally Posted By: British
We all know the 'deal and die' bullshit, but did any families really stick by this ?

No.

Originally Posted By: bronx
nobody stuck to this rule.the guys who made it broke it

Yes.

When I was a teenager and the Purple Gang was nearing the end of its peak (the mid to late '70s), you had unmade H guys moving monster weight to the PR's and kicking up DIRECTLY to guys like Fat Gigi, Buckaloo and Sammy Black. Another broken "rule." The "rules" are applied according to who's getting paid, and how it's distributed.

And those unmade guys, who, under the "rules," should have been chased for moving product to the PR's and kicking directly up to skippers?

Of the ones who are still alive, 75 percent of them are captain or higher with either the Westside or the Luccheses.


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Re: Drugs [Re: British] #846687
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No honour among thieves.

LCN 'honour' right there.


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When I was a teenager and the Purple Gang was nearing the end of its peak (the mid to late '70s), you had unmade H guys moving monster weight to the PR's and kicking up DIRECTLY to guys like Fat Gigi, Buckaloo and Sammy Black. Another broken "rule." The "rules" are applied according to who's getting paid, and how it's distributed.

And those unmade guys, who, under the "rules," should have been chased for moving product to the PR's and kicking directly up to skippers?

Of the ones who are still alive, 75 percent of them are captain or higher with either the Westside or the Luccheses. [/quote]

PB do you mean the unmade dealers are now captains in those families??

Thank you for all of your contributions to this forum !!! Even though I have never read or heard about a lot of the info you post I still find it very interesting!!!

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Everyone does drugs as well as other things.

Very very few know how to get away with deal drugs. People get caught dealing all the time. Who cares the list of customers who buy to sell is endless.


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Re: Drugs [Re: Turnbull] #847099
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Originally Posted By: BKLYN2NASSAU
That's one thing I always respected about the bonnanos and also the Sicilian mafia( Rosario and John gambino) they were drug dealers and didn't pretend they were anything but. All the other families were hypocrites in that regard . They were anti drug publicly but none shied away from taking drug money when it flowed up the ladder .

Joe Bonanno, to his dying day, denied involvement in drugs. He even said his trip to Sicily in 1957 to meet with Luciano and Sicilian Mafiosi to set up another drug pipeline was a "vacation."

Hypocrisy is how the Mob rationalizes drug dealing. On the one hand, drug dealing heightens the possibility that a family member nailed by the law will rat out higher-ups. On the other hand, the Mafia hierarchy is a pyramid scheme. If the Dons enforced a ban on drug dealing, they'd be cut out of a lucrative source of income that gets kicked up to them. So they decree death for anyone caught dealing drugs. That way, what they don't know won't hurt them. It also has a Darwinian effect: the weaker guys (the ones most likely to screw up and be caught) are deterred; the stronger guys (the best and safest earners) do the dealing--and the kicking up of profits to the Don.,


That's the first thing that popped into my mind, Turnbull, was Bonnano's blatant hypocrisies about drugs. They've pretty much have been involved in the most drugs. Has any other family done more international trafficking than them?


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