Classic bunch of LCN figures these two, straight out the 70's or the 80's, smashing heads in first and asking questions later. People have been saying on here about the lack of cases in Detroit and I think it's becoming clearer why this is so.....the original trial for these guys....they got like 3 months or something, for beating this poor dude close to death....FBI has had to step in cos justice wasn't being done. Quite obvious that locally The Detroit LCN is doing whatever the fuck it wants and is most probably getting away with all kinds of shit.....just think, this is ONE of the crimes that has been reported on....imagine all the times they get away with this kinda stuff

Thoughts please

Yeah i think Detriot is doing amazing staying alive as a family. Jackie had to give the Capo spot to one of the brothers since they're so powerful. Detriot %100 has political corruption with its mafia family. Especially since the FBI is looking at other groups over there.

Interesting to see how this case goes and if they'll actually get 20 years.
Anybody know anything about their defense attorney?

Jackie

With the destruction of the Detroit economy, very high crime, and huge Muslim population in Michigan, it does seem like a perfect storm for the mob to grow more powerful. I don't believe when I hear about buffalo, LA, new orleans, etc.. but Detroit seems like an OC playground with easily corruptable Cops and politicians

That's actually a pretty logical explanation about the lack of high profile cases in Detroit. It doesn't mean the Family is defunct and inactive. Like I said in another thread, the administration are all legit millionaires 5x over, it's possible they use that and they're money to corrupt the local LE. It's interesting because mike89 is exactly right, in the original trial for the D'Anna's for the beating, they were sentenced to three months, then some federal people saw that and probably thought "wait, wut?" and got involved.

I think personally, Jackie The Kid still has a loose grip on some aspects of the political scene in Detroit. But it's all a mystery until some real cases are brought about.

Look at the all the cases - what few there have been in recent years - and you'll see the D'Anna case was an anomaly more than anything. Corrupt local LE? Has the family also paid off the FBI and Justice Department? Growing more powerful?

What's left of the mob in Detroit is basically bookmaking with some loansharking and card games on the side. As well as whatever legitimate businesses they are involved in. The max estimate of made guys back in 2001 was 30 and over 20 members/possible members have died since then.

I would assume they re opened the books. That's not fact
Just opinion.

Maybe. Maybe not. But there is no way they have enough of a recruiting pool to keep up with all the members who have in recent years.

political corruption isn't any sort of measure of mob activity. Pretty much anyone with money can do that. Some of detroits drug figures have had alleged connections to politicians.

We'll have to see how long they get I suppose but the jury's out for me.......no pun intended haha

By the way though Jack Tocco got some pitiful sentence for the Gamtax thing....should of got lyk 20 years or something. So they deffo must have the ability to grease some palms.

the city of detroit is 82% black, and 10% white (2010)

detroit mafia operates in metro detroit

they marry within the "family" so that keeps a recruiting pool

i'm sure they have atleast 30 made guys

@mike89. This indictment is specifically targeting both of the D'Anna brothers and Scott Burn just posted on his own site that the trial will be taking place within the first 2 weeks of October (this year), in which they both will be facing 20 years for the baseball bat beating of Ventimiglia. These guys are fucked. A witness in the kitchen saw the entire thing go down. They grease local palms but the FBI Detroit field office plans to wipe these guys off the planet. 2016 will bring a new sicilian "zip" faction leader in Detroit, I'll bet my fuckin left nut on it.

Also do you live in Michigan mike89?

These detriot guys bring in some serious money though.

Yer obviously the FBI are gona try and take them the cleaners but up till then they were getting away with it....no I'm not from Michigan fella

I agree. They were getting away with it for quite some time. Fuckin D'Annas have been grabbing with both hands since Bommarito got pulled out though. I imagine most of that crowd outside the zip faction won't be shedding any tears when they go away.

Christ man, you had to get Ivy started on his tired old rants that he does about anyone who isnt the Genovese family.

Shit gets old after a while

Also that particular judge was ALWAYS light on Detroit members and associates..

I think he may have even been investigated...I cannot recall...

Detroit always fascinates me and I agree that I think they do a pretty good job keeping it low key while maintaining strength. They have some tight bloodlines in that family too which has helped to maintain loyalty.

With all due respect Blackjack2121, that judge could be light on Detroit members but the bottom line is the fact that Detroit LCN members get the lighter end of the stick from not being out in the open while also remaining composed, intelligent and incredibly loyal. You will not find that anywhere else in the city from any other gang, clan or group. Bikers, Italians, Albanians, Chaldeans, Mexicans and African American drug gangs all over the city. Italians (at least higher-ups) are mostly legitimate. EVERY other group is into way more illegitimate, violent and nonsensical shit in their pursuit to make money. Yes I agree that Detroit has been a bit glorified on this board in the past but they're still out there and showing their ability to adapt.

I think Jackie can make it a solid ten years. That's a big gamble I know.

Here we go again, people giving Detroit way too much credit.

TommyGambino

In this situation the credit is due TommyGambino. I made a point of my own glorification but if you want to deny their nearly fucking impeccable track record (aside from gametax and shit revolving around Nove Tocco) then go for it.

I mean, it's just people giving their opinion on the LCN scene in Detroit. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think one can argue that it's pretty suspect, that when the case was tried by the local court system, and LE, the D'Anna's got only three months. And it wasn't until the State and the Feds interfered that they were being tried again and this time facing some serious time. It just seems like some palms may have been greased.

How much could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

If it wasn't for the realists like myself on these forums, who take an objective look at the available evidence instead of indulging in the ridiculous assumptions and theories seen so far in this thread, we'd be back to the old days on the OC boards where you had people posting made up charts showing 20 members in St Louis or 30 in Milwaukee. Or claiming they had inside info about this family or that family when they didn't. Well, I guess we still do have that but to a far less degree.

What gets old is people who are too damned lazy or arrogant to do their homework. People who take an incident of mob guys assaulting a rival restaurant owner in Detroit, run with it, and before you know it the Detroit family is able to fly under the radar because they're paying off local judges and law enforcement. Never mind there's no real evidence of any of this. But, hell, why let the available facts get in the way of an exciting theory, right? Where do I get off raining on your parade?



Questionable decisions by judges come down all the time. If there was any real influence by the LCN in the local judiciary or law enforcement, the feds would be all over it and there would likely be more evidence than theories that don't go beyond a message board. If any real evidence, especially an indictment ever comes down, I'll happily admit I'm wrong.

What's funny is, when it comes to the Detroit LCN and the lack of mob cases, people are constantly coming up with excuses for why this is. First, it's because the feds have more important investigations than the local mob and they're just ignored. Then, it's because the Detroit mob is paying off local law enforcement and judges and are left alone. Anyone paying attention can see that neither is true.

Exactly. In ny when some mob guys get setenced to community service helping in hurricane sandy relief after being convicted of felonies, or when the acting colombo boss gets sentenced to three months when the feds are asking for years, its obvious the judge is just a dumbass, not that hes getting an envelope.

All points taken on aboard....it was a credible theory I thought. But hey this is a forum so it's good to debate such things. Lets see if there's any more cases. By intrest though how big is detroits zip faction...I thought it was just these two knuckle heads.

@ivyleague

you yelled and screamed that chicago only has 2 or 3 crews

now it's been reported that they have atleast 5 (if you count lake county)

believe it or not but the detroit fbi has bigger problems than the mafia