Not for nothing, and perhaps Serp never meant it like this, but the quote does say that he was busted down for getting a lot of made guys from other families to back him. The attempt never got off the ground but it seems to be much more than a "weak attempt", if whats said is indeed the case and true. At the very least this is Nick Jr having the ability to plan, and reach out, even if it's mostly because he may have enamored many with promises of money. With his earning power, that certainly possible. And none of this is to say that he'd be able to get any of the Five Families to back him, but I'm just saying, it seems as if he may have been able to perhaps buy the assumed participation of more than just a few guys from various families in NY.

If I took Serp's comment completely out of context, then I apologize.

I have been hearing all kinds of thing from people close to Nick that went to a hearing or one of his family told I really should not say.And it is possible they have the copy's of what being said in court.Don't know for sure.

Amouso keeps coming up as boss ,out of the mouth of FBI from what I am hearing.(but most know he is boss weather a lighting rod or what ever)
Everyone keeps saying that the moneys Perna was / is kicking up unseated Nick jr as skipper ,not true Pernas kicking up anyway no fucking choice they kick or Die...

The whole thing was Nick jr getting a lot of made guys from other families to join him in taking some rackets form Philly.Don't know if it was a take over .

There is many reasons why he was doing this at this time .
money ,power ,and Skinny still in the can at the time and uncle Joe would have had to go along cos his Boss is Nick jr father was also pulling strings while there was lots of money to pull it off.Only if NY said yes ....

Now if it would have went through with out Amuso knocking Nick jr. down then it would have happened.(uncle Joe would of had to go along).

I know many don't get what I am saying ,but it will be coming out or is already out (some of it is )there was three or more families in this scam .
Nick jr. was not put down to soldier cos of Pernas money ,he was put down for not clearing this take over it through the bosses.

There is more to it ,cos it possible it was cleared by someone in NY but the other or ruling panel shot it down.
This all depends who is the real boss of the Lukes.

This is old news but many don't know that the Gambino's around or before this were close to taking out the Philly administration meaning the top three I would guess.
This was also comfirmed by Feds .

It is looking like Amuso is boss but just the head with say ,just will be over ruled if that is possible.
I will be hearing more of this as long as the people still are going to court or getting some type of copy's of whats going on .

I hope this came out legible" ,if not I am sure someone can put it right .....

Boy you guys could have just PM me if you wanted to know what I was saying.

I don't know who the made guys were ,but I was surprised when I herd it also.
I still don't who but I sort of can guess where he would have gotten support.
The two Gambino crews he was close to is a possibility.
Then there is his crew with the Lukes. I am pretty sure he is close to other guys in that family,remember it's all about money.

He was also close to a couple Colombo guys and a third that his father was close with .

Then there is his fathers family ,nobody knows who still holds his father in high regard in Philly .

Hearing what I herd and reading what I read it was easy put a couple of these things together ,if they fit or not .

This may come out and it may be nothing just as it may be something ...

Kinda fuzzy. But scarfo new what time it was. He told his partner sal that when he's in philly he should keep a low profile cause philly didn't recognize or respect scarfo Jr. It was in his trial so how you gonna make that move when you probaly would get beating with bats if your went to a Philly's game. Then there's the whole pernas kid meet Jr. At a highway stop to tell scarfo he's not capo anymore. That was the perna with the bug in his car. But Jr might have been going strait to the boss. He was meeting Vic amuso sin n law up till his bust. So maybe it was to appease the jersey guys who are friendly with merlino so all politics.

Or they took Scarfos power to show Amuso who was really in charge. Scarfo was the example that they set.

Whats the point of running a huge crew that didn't like having such a young capo when there's a lot of older guys in that big jersey crew making loans and gambling and scarfos head is in a huge white collar thing. Can't keep a eye on both. I read Jr was meeting with amuso daughter husband a soldier. Came up in trial. Scarfo was like early 40tys theres guys in there 70tys.

Anyone know how Scarfo Sr. is doing in terms of physical/mental health? Is he still in good shape? Anyone know when that last picture of him (the one with him shaking hands with the black guy) was actually taken?

I always wondered if the tension in the main NJ L players and. scarfo jr was partly from Sr. , tho maybe not growing up in the area was an issue but Scarfo Jr wasn't the first trade in CN

Obviously Amuso wasn't a fan of NJ ( having ok'd to whack every one of them and i wonder if he polluted Scarfo Sr. thoughts .

As those NJ guys were there forever and have always been earners , not sure why they had 2 bosses that despised em all