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Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #844664
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Decavs dont need their permission to make/ wack guys in their on fam right? I dont recall Scarfo clearing any of his wild killings with Bobby Manna at the time although I guess since the Gambinos and the Decavs are so close may be different


Historically the decaves had to circulate names of proposed members with the five families before they could make them. Also at some point they were banned from making members from NY.

Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211


On a side note with the Gambinos having this other fam under their wing, how would you guys hypothetically rank the NY fams in terms of power? I would guess Genovese pry still number one, but maybe Gambinos 2 now and Lucchese's 3? Just speculation obviously Im curious what the knowledgeable NY posters would say if this new info changes the power hierarchy among the 5 families?


Its always been Genovese 1, Gambino 2, Luchese 3. Dont see that ever changing.


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Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #844678
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Thats a good point db and I think Dell is right they pry kick up a portion of unions,construction that kinda shit..if its comparable to the philly /genovese situation which I think it pry is then the Decavs dont need their permission to make/ wack guys in their on fam right? I dont recall Scarfo clearing any of his wild killings with Bobby Manna at the time although I guess since the Gambinos and the Decavs are so close may be different

On a side note with the Gambinos having this other fam under their wing, how would you guys hypothetically rank the NY fams in terms of power? I would guess Genovese pry still number one, but maybe Gambinos 2 now and Lucchese's 3? Just speculation obviously Im
curious what the knowledgeable NY posters would say if this new info changes the power hierarchy among the 5 families?



the fact that u don't hear anything from the genovese shows what they do

no news is good news, they're the only ny family that operates like chicago

the gambinos probably need the north jersey to maintain there dominance in ny

Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #844683
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Originally Posted By: Don_Squirreleone

Just to clarify for me Ivy, does that suggest to you that the Decavs are no longer viable as an independent family? As far as I understood it, the annexation of the remnant Trafficante family by the Gambinos happened after the Floridians had ceased to function as a recognisable LCN organisation?


Nobody was annexed in either case. Both the Trafficantes and DeCavalcantes remained separate families from the Gambinos but were/are affiliated with them.


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Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #844809
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It's been well-known that the DeCavalcante Family answered to the Gambinos since at least the Weiss murder. Don't most, if not all, of the minor families answer to somebody in NY or Chicago?

Anyway, been a while since I posted. Good to be back

Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #846674
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Decavs have answered to the Gambinos since the late 80s--the Rotondo muder is said to have been the turning point

Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #846689
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Really that far back the Decavs answered to tbe Gambinos? Im not doubting your info just thought their connection in the 80s was Gotti bein friends w D'amato and asking them to whack Fred Weiss I didnt think they or any nY fam were iN charge of them..I could be.wronG can anyone shed some light on this?


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Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: fu17] #846691
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Originally Posted By: fu17
Decavs have answered to the Gambinos since the late 80s--the Rotondo muder is said to have been the turning point


Yeah. I made a thread about this in the past. There's a lot of unknowns unfortunately but here's what we know
-Rotondo was well liked Decav capo operating in Brooklyn
-When he died the Decavs at his funeral didnt even know who put the hit out on him
-At the funeral Gotti pulled Riggi aside and instituted a hostile takeover

Put it together. Still, I wonder WHAT he did or if someone in the decav family was up to some shady shit

I also think the gambino control of the decavalcante family has been more and more solidified as the decavalcantes shrank from prison and attrition, culmininating in today when they're an east coast mirror of the trafficantes

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Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #868599
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Two more associates of Decavalcante crew pled guilty today:

http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jers...caine/76678558/

Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #868600
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Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: cookcounty] #868613
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Thats a good point db and I think Dell is right they pry kick up a portion of unions,construction that kinda shit..if its comparable to the philly /genovese situation which I think it pry is then the Decavs dont need their permission to make/ wack guys in their on fam right? I dont recall Scarfo clearing any of his wild killings with Bobby Manna at the time although I guess since the Gambinos and the Decavs are so close may be different

On a side note with the Gambinos having this other fam under their wing, how would you guys hypothetically rank the NY fams in terms of power? I would guess Genovese pry still number one, but maybe Gambinos 2 now and Lucchese's 3? Just speculation obviously Im
curious what the knowledgeable NY posters would say if this new info changes the power hierarchy among the 5 families?



the fact that u don't hear anything from the genovese shows what they do

no news is good news, they're the only ny family that operates like chicago

the gambinos probably need the north jersey to maintain there dominance in ny

The Gambinos probably took the DeCalvacantes because the Genovese and Lucchese family already have bigger crews in NJ.


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Re: Decavalcante Associate Sentenced for Coke dealing [Re: mikeyballs211] #868614
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
their connection in the 80s was Gotti bein friends w D'amato and asking them to whack Fred Weiss I didnt think they or any nY fam were iN charge of them.

This.

Originally Posted By: BarrettM
I also think the gambino control of the decavalcante family has been more and more solidified as the decavalcantes shrank from prison and attrition, culmininating in today when they're an east coast mirror of the trafficantes

And this. Although I think they are still in better shape the trafficantes.


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