http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/NJ_mobster_pleads_to_cocaine_distribution_charges.html

Is this guy in Stagno's crew? Anyone know

This article has at least one inaccuracy. David Chase said he based the Sopranos on Richie the Boots crew initially, not the Decavs, he said it in an interview.

This is the 2nd time I've seen it mentioned that the DeCavs are now under the Gambinos...Does anyone know how accurate this is or isnt?

If anyone wants I can look up his PACER info and give you an estimate on the sentencing guidelines will put out.

Didn't someone pick up on a wiretap that they now reported into the Gambino's..??

Most ruthless families, lmao, good print content I guess.

Jeesh, 40 years, I'd run gambling and girls and stay away from that sh&t.

http://m.fbi.gov/#http://www.fbi.gov/newark/press-releases/2015/member-of-decavalcante-crime-family-admits-distributing-cocaine

He won't get 40
1o years I'll guess.

He was pinched with the recent bust. He copped out quick. 40 years sounds good for the papers.

Cheech I think you're right id say 10 yrs

So he was part of that bust with Stango's crew right? Fuck if thats accurate he sure plead fast

Anyone know anything more bout this guy degidio?

I still dont buy the DeCavs being under the Gambinos..but that strixtly an uneducated guess based on the fact that the decavs are one of the oldest lcn fams in the country and idk I cant see them answerin directly to one of the NY fams.even tho theyre smaller..anyone have thoughts on this?

Link to FBI Press Release

He was with Stagno's son, so yes you can say he was in Stagno's crew. Stagno's son is in his 30s too.

FBI Press Release From The Original Indictment

In the end of 80s and erly 90s Gotti ordered to Decavalcante to repeat a induction ceremony,Gotti did this only to show that the Decavalcante was a b league mob family and that the Gambino rules on them.

David Chase first say that the Soprano are based on the DeCavalcantes,after on the Lucchese Jersey Crew saying that Tony Soprano was based on Michael Taccetta and after again on the Ritchie the Both Boiardo's crew at the end Chase said this 3 things so anyone can things what want about the sopranos based of.

NJ.com Article

The stated ages on that report are young, maybe the reports of the DeCavs 'replenishing the ranks' weren't quite so exaggerated after all?

Also, the idea of them being 'under' the Gambinos begs the question as to whether there remains functioning a Commission of some description? Obviously not in the manner of times-past, but it would suggest there's a level of inter-family liaison and hierarchy still extant that I guess many assumed was long gone.

No doubt they have / had replenish their ranks

They certainly aren't a powerhouse but still have rackets that requires people to run em

they have younger guys in their 20s and 30s in the Toms River area running coke, sports bookmaking, and untaxed cigarettes .

Good info DM

Before this arrest they were so low profile they must have been making good $.

Toms river is a good spot as a lot of those cops are rents or not knowledgable about how to build a investigation like that , piece by piece

Not to mention they have a big Union county sports book

I do know from someone I trust that they did very well post Sandy with all that
Sub contract work . This is a family although weaker in the union area still have guys that have interests in construction down there and huge contracts are still being doled out

Anyone who has watched The Sopranos can see that the writers got material from both the New York and New Jersey underworlds. The basic concept of a small, indigenous family in Jersey is obviously based on the DeCavalcantes. A lot of other things were too. The pump and dump stock scam in season 2, John D'Amato obviously being the inspiration for Vito being gay in the later seasons, etc.

And yes, the part about the DeCavalcantes being affiliated with the Gambinos is correct. The same thing happened with what was left of the Trafficante family down in Florida.

DB,

yeah, the younger guys are heavy in the drugs, sports betting, and cigarettes/counterfeits in Toms River area. Lots of drugs in the clubs in Seaside and doorman fees, bathroom attendants, etc at the seaside clubs. The older guys are big into construction. They are still pretty active in construction from what I hear, I left out construction in the Toms River area because I was talking about the younger guys in the crew and what they're into.

I also believe that Union County Sportsbook you are talking about has an offset in Toms River. A Lot of the Decavalcante family actually resides in Toms River, that's why these idiots from Casper, Ohio who think these guys are "men of honor" LOL They had/have 23 year old kids selling coke and running prostitution right in the administration's / senior members own backyard!..

Good stuff

I agree and I would even say very active in contract work , that was their base and they ain't letting that go

I agree about the drugs , same shit in Belleville Nutley Staten Island with most of the other families

These kids sold huge quantities of pills in their bosses backyard . It was their heroin , way easier to corrupt a doc or pharmacy then get that shit overseas and passed customs .

Pill thing kind of dying but CN make a freaking ton off it

I was just thinking about the pill thing.. I know its huge in that part of jersey, and staten island.. these guys in one of the families have to have a few pharmacists locked down and willing to backdoor them all of the pills they want.. I mean think how profitable that would be if you had direct access to a crooked pharmacist.. just 1000 oxycodone 30mg pills are an easy 20k on the street.. just so much money to be made. they need to somehow start opening pharmacies with a clean pharmacist on paper... then just order whatever they want for pennies on the dollar and flip it... or get a doctor whos ran up a serious sports debt and cant pay.. force him to write a ton of scripts in return.. just feel like there has to be younger guys who have this market locked the fuck down. its too easy. stupid, but easy.. feds/law enforcement are really trying to fuck anyone involved with the pharmaceutical drug game..

I've only ever seen Chase personally say that The Soprano's were based on the Boiardo crew. He's quoted in an article. All the other mentions of the DeCavalcante's & the Taccetta's, didn't come from Chase, at least I haven't seen it. The DeCalvacante's came from the members themselves who watched the show and were picked up on wiretaps comparing themselves to the characters. And I don't know where the Taccetta connection came from, but I've never heard or seen Chase himself refer to it.

I'm sure many things in the show were based on the Boiardo crew. But, as I said, the basic concept of a small, indigenous family in Jersey is certainly not based on the Boiardo crew but obviously the DeCavalcantes. That can't be disputed.

LE has really cracked down on pills and IMO they did an excellent job as its a legal drug and they took numerous options like tracking it with the new operating system

For H they can't do that and I've said this before but it really has me thinking about the fact drugs are illegal as if they are legal LE has more ways to combat

And although the easy $ is done for CN is this territory certain crews made a shit ton , now it's back to marajuana which is a still part nice $ maker for several crews , and a smart racket as LE just isn't that concerned as it was and they could do it with home grown or from their CA and / or Canada connects . Plus they still have their hand in yip

Until recently pill distro made some crews pretty wealthy , and usually distro grossed 10-12 per pill . To the point all they cared about was gambling and pills

Shoot that hospital guy in SI stole something like 3 million plus pills . If the kick back is only $1-2 a pill . and your talking good steady income . Just think how many of the local busts were suburban ish towns populated with tons of Italians . I rarely know much about CN but on this one I knew some people directly

it's a reason some young kids started moving up due to how much $ they brought in and CN learned from past busts and I'm just going to leave it at that . it got too big and forced the Feds in as PB has always mentioned . Russians did a ton of this too . Plus their was minimal violence , one reason it stayed under the radar until kids started ODing

Ivy is spot on with sopranos btw - nice job

when they make tv shows or movies about you or yours, especially if they make a billion like the sopranos the government is going to take an interest. Wise guy are supposed to be smart....the godfather movie 1970's end of the golden age for the real mob government cracks down. Sopranos then NJ gets taken down.

when they make tv shows or movies about you or yours, especially if they make a billion like the sopranos the government is going to take an interest. Wise guy are supposed to be smart....the godfather movie 1970's end of the golden age for the real mob government cracks down. Sopranos then NJ gets taken down.

Just to clarify for me Ivy, does that suggest to you that the Decavs are no longer viable as an independent family? As far as I understood it, the annexation of the remnant Trafficante family by the Gambinos happened after the Floridians had ceased to function as a recognisable LCN organisation?

Ivy can speak for himself but it seems he was just making a general comparison. the recent indictment shows they still have a full administration and several deferent crews operating in nj, so theyre still their own family, nowhere near the state the trafficantes were in. it seems to be a much more comparable situation to how the philly family lead by scarfo were "under" the Genovese, and before him with Bruno being under Gambino. this dynamic between the gambinos and decaves goes back to Gotti's authority over Riggi, and even further back to carlo Gambino and decavalcante.

I think you nailed it Dell

I doubt NJ kicks up to NY but involves thier NJ guys in partnerships to generate more cash in all the rackets that they split up amongst themselves and to carry out some work if needed , things like that , plus joint books , restaurants , construction companies etc .

It's actually a very smart move by NY to at least try and catch up to that other NY family as the burbs is where things have headed

Thats a good point db and I think Dell is right they pry kick up a portion of unions,construction that kinda shit..if its comparable to the philly /genovese situation which I think it pry is then the Decavs dont need their permission to make/ wack guys in their on fam right? I dont recall Scarfo clearing any of his wild killings with Bobby Manna at the time although I guess since the Gambinos and the Decavs are so close may be different

On a side note with the Gambinos having this other fam under their wing, how would you guys hypothetically rank the NY fams in terms of power? I would guess Genovese pry still number one, but maybe Gambinos 2 now and Lucchese's 3? Just speculation obviously Im curious what the knowledgeable NY posters would say if this new info changes the power hierarchy among the 5 families?