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Structure of the Corleonesi #843646
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I was wondering the other day of the organizational structure of a typical Sicilian family and the Corleonesi came into mind, as one of the most dominant families in the Sicilian mafia history (gained control of the whole mafia in the 80s).

Anyone knows the structure of the family at this time in history, compared to any of the US Cosa Nostra families? Sure they had a boss and a family administration, but various street crews in such a tiny village? I doubt it since Ive been to Corleone some fifteen years ago and its hardly a city, yet they must have had some decent numbers.

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If I remember correctly, the Corleone clan itself only had something like 30-40 made members. However, when we talk about the Corleonesi, you have to include bosses and members in other clans who aligned themselves with Leggio, Riina, Provenzano and their clan.


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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
If I remember correctly, the Corleone clan itself only had something like 30-40 made members. However, when we talk about the Corleonesi, you have to include bosses and members in other clans who aligned themselves with Leggio, Riina, Provenzano and their clan.



Sounds reasonable, however even more "impressive " how they managed to become the power house with such a tiny base.

Thanks for the input, appreciate it.

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This is the old thread by Ivy with some discussion about it: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=20641&Number=580303

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The Corleonesi was an alliance were the Corleone clan was head of the the whole alliance, The Corleone clan was not the most powerful clan at the start in the 70's they managed to build up the alliance for a number of years slow.

Corleone clan did not have as much financial power when the big mafia war start in the 80's but their alliance had more personnel then the other side.

The big mistake of the side who was fighting the Corleone clan was in the years before the war they was flooding the United States with heroin and had money coming out of their ears they was good businessmen but did not put some of the money to the more blue collar criminals who they could of had as their muscle and the Corleone clan done just that got all the blue collar grass roots guys and took over the more financial powerful Bontade and Inzerillo side. The Corleonesi and their allies won the war easy.

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http://www.lacndb.com/Si_Info.php?name=Corleonesi

The Corleonesi is the name given to a faction within the Sicilian Mafia that dominated Cosa Nostra in the 1980s and the 1990s. It was called the Corleonesi because its most important leaders came from the town Corleone, first Luciano Leggio and later Tot� Riina, Bernardo Provenzano and Leoluca Bagarella, Riina�s brother-in-law. The Corleonesi coalition managed to take over the Sicilian Mafia Commission and imposed a quasi-dictatorship over Cosa Nostra, waging war against rival factions (also known as the Second Mafia War) from 1978-1983. The more established Mafia factions in the city of Palermo grossly underestimated the mafiosi from Corleone and often referred to the Corleonesi as i viddani - "the peasants".

A young Salvatore Riina Corleonesi affiliates were not restricted to mafiosi of Corleone. The Corleone Mafia bosses initiated �men of honour�, not necessarily from Corleone, whose status was kept hidden from the other members of the Corleone cosca and other Mafia Families. Members of other Mafia Families who sided with Riina and Provenzano were called Corleonesi as well, forming a coalition that dominated the Mafia in the 1980s and 1990s, that can be considered as a kind of parallel Cosa Nostra. (Giovanni Brusca from the San Giuseppe Jato Mafia Family was considered to be part of the Corleonesi faction for example)

The pentito (Mafia turncoat) Antonino Calderone provided first-hand accounts of the leaders of the Corleonesi: Luciano Leggio, Tot� Riina and Bernardo Provenzano. About Leggio, Calderone said: "He liked to kill. He had a way of looking at people that could frighten anyone, even us mafiosi. The smallest thing set him off, and then a strange light would appear in his eyes that created silence around him. When you were in his company you had to be careful about how you spoke. The wrong tone of voice, a misconstrued word, and all of a sudden that silence. Everything would instantly be hushed, uneasy, and you could smell death in the air."

"The Corleone bosses were not educated at all, but they were cunning and diabolical," Calderone said about Riina and Provenzano. "They were both clever and ferocious, a rare combination in Cosa Nostra." Calderone described Tot� Riina as "unbelievably ignorant, but he had intuition and intelligence and was difficult to fathom and very hard to predict." Riina was soft spoken, highly persuasive and often highly sentimental. He followed the simple codes of the brutal, ancient world of the Sicilian countryside, where force is the only law and there is no contradiction between personal kindness and extreme ferocity. "His philosophy was that if someone�s finger hurt, it was better to cut off his whole arm just to make sure," Calderone said.

The pentito Leonardo Messina described how the Corleonesi organised their rise to power: "They took power by slowly, slowly killing everyone � We were kind of infatuated with them because we thought that getting rid of the old bosses we would become the new bosses. Some people killed their brother, others their cousin and so on, because they thought they would take their places. Instead, slowly, (the Corleonesi) gained control of the whole system. (�) First they used us to get rid of the old bosses, then they got rid of all those who raised their heads, like Giuseppe Greco 'the Shoe', Mario Prestifilippo and Vincenzo Puccio � all that�s left are men without character, who are their puppets."


Division within the Corleonesi
In the 1990s a division emerged among the Corleonesi, following the arrest of Bernardo Provenzano in the 50s Tot� Riina on January 15, 1993. Following the months after Riina's arrest, there were a series of bombings by the Corleonesi against several tourist spots on the Italian mainland � the Via dei Georgofili in Florence, Via Palestro in Milan and the Piazza San Giovanni in Laterano and Via San Teodoro in Rome, which left 10 people dead and 93 injured as well as severe damage to centres of cultural heritage such as the Uffizi Gallery.

Bernardo Provenzano proposed a new less violent Mafia strategy instead of the terrorist bombing campaign in 1993 against the state to get them to back off in their crackdown against the Mafia after the murders on Anti-mafia prosecutors Giovanni Falcone and Paolo Borsellino. Provenzano's new guidelines were patience, compartmentalization, coexistence with state institutions, and systematic infiltration of public finance. Provenzano reportedly re-established the old Mafia rules that had been abolished by Riina under his very eyes when, together with Riina and Leoluca Bagarella, he was ruling the Corleonesi coalition.

Giovanni Brusca � one of Riina's hitmen who personally detonated the bomb that killed Falcone, and became a state witness (pentito) after his arrest in 1996 � has offered a controversial version of the capture of Tot� Riina: a secret deal between Carabinieri officers, secret agents and Cosa Nostra bosses tired of the dictatorship of Riina�s faction of the Corleonesi. According to Brusca, Provenzano "sold" Riina in exchange for the valuable archive of compromising material that Riina held in his apartment in Via Bernini 52 in Palermo.

In 2002 the rift within the Corleonesi coalition became clear. On the one hand there were the hardliners in jail � led by Tot� Riina and Leoluca Bagarella � and on the other the more moderate, known as the "Palermitani" � led by Bernardo Provenzano and Antonino Giuffr�, Salvatore Lo Piccolo and Matteo Messina Denaro. The incarcerated bosses wanted something to be done about the harsh prison conditions (in particular the relaxation of the 41-bis incarceration regime) � and were believed to be orchestrating a return to violence while serving multiple life sentences. During a court appearance in July 2002, Leoluca Bagarella suggested unnamed politicians had failed to maintain agreements with the Mafia over prison conditions. "We are tired of being exploited, humiliated, harassed and used as merchandise by political factions," he said.

Antonino Giuffr� � a close confidant of Provenzano, turned pentito shortly after his capture in April 2002 � alleges that in 1993, Cosa Nostra had direct contact with representatives of former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi while he was planning the birth of Forza Italia. The deal that he says was alleged to have been made was a repeal of 41 bis, among other anti-Mafia laws in return for delivering electoral gains in Sicily. Giuffr�'s declarations have not been confirmed.

When Provenzano was moved to the high security prison in Terni after his arrest in April 2006, Tot� Riina�s son Giovanni Riina, who has been sentenced to life imprisonment for three murders, yelled that Provenzano was a "sbirro" � a popular Italian diminutive expression for a police officer � when Provenzano entered the cell block, insinuating that Provenzano cooperated with the police (maybe referring to the arrest of his father).

Salvatore Lo Piccolo, probably Provenzano's successor after his arrest, was himself arrested the 5th of November, 2007, in a small villa near Palermo. Amongst his arrest were his son and 2 other wanted mafioso. Lo Piccolo was on the run for about 21 years. This leaves Matteo Messina Denaro on the list of possible bosses, or maybe he was allready boss?


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