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Joey lombardo #843410
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To me this is one of the most interesting outfit members. The picture taken I believe in mid to late 70s of all the high ranking outfit guys sitting round the dinner table really showed how young he was compared to most of his peers that were on his same power level. How did he rise up so fast? Does anyone think he was ever the big boss? Any unknown info on him would be greatly appreciated.

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To neighbors, Joseph Lombardo was a beloved family man and respected boys baseball coach in his West Side neighborhood -- "more liked than the priest" in the community, according to one friend.

To the feds, Lombardo is the man who had a factory owner slain in front of the man's wife and 4-year-old son.

To investigators, he's the man who knows no loyalty, signing off on the murders of three close friends.

When he appears in federal court these days, for updates on the trial starting June 19 that could put him in prison until his dying days, he's the wisecracking senior citizen. At 78, he's the oldest of a mostly geriatric bunch of mobsters in what likely will be the last great Outfit trial in Chicago history -- the Family Secrets case.

He's "the Clown," known for his quick wit. When the cops stopped him once in the 1980s, after he fled a gambling raid, he had $12,000 in cash on him and a book filled with jokes. But the wisecracks, investigators say, only mask the brutality of one of the last of the old-time Chicago mobsters.

Interviews with people who have known and investigated Lombardo, as well as a review of thousands of pages of court records and law enforcement documents, reveal the story of the ruthless rise of Lombardo in the Chicago Outfit.

"He was vicious and a killer," said retired FBI Agent Jack O'Rourke. "He was their prime enforcer."

Lombardo has denied hurting anyone. Now behind bars at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Chicago, he declined an interview request.

In court in 1983, Lombardo said: "I never ordered a killing, I never OKd a killing, and I never killed a man in my life."

His attorney, Rick Halprin, says his client has never been a mob leader. But investigators say Lombardo was a top mobster for years, thanks to his criminal versatility.

He allegedly went from busting heads and two-bit burglaries to orchestrating a bribe attempt of U.S. Sen. Howard Cannon. He was convicted in that case in the 1980s, as well as another one for skimming millions from Las Vegas casinos for the mob. He allegedly controlled millions of dollars in Teamster pension funds through his friend, insurance magnate Allen Dorfman, and was responsible for getting the skim from Las Vegas casinos to Chicago mob bosses.

As a child, Lombardo never knew such wealth, growing up poor in Depression-era Chicago, one of 11 children, the son of a printer. A graduate of Wells High School, he worked as a paperboy, plucked chickens, shined shoes, loaded boxcars at Union Station for 69 cents an hour and handled room service at the Blackstone Hotel.

He was also quite the athlete, playing on wrestling, basketball, fencing and swimming teams and even taking square-dancing lessons. He found a passion for golf and caddied for top Chicago gangster Jackie Cerone. He was also quite the gin rummy cardshark. But he didn't have to rely on cards for cash. His criminal work was apparently quite profitable, authorities said. In recent years, while Lombardo pleads poverty, his family trust benefitting his ex-wife, son and daughter has sold real estate for millions. Authorities believe the trust was set up to keep the feds from seizing assets.

Lombardo's success was punctuated by violence. He has been a suspect in numerous murders but never convicted. What's more, authorities say, he had control over the most allegedly vicious hit man around, Frank "The German" Schweihs. Schweihs is charged in the Family Secrets case with Lombardo. Schweihs would talk about doing an Outfit killing like he was taking out the garbage, court records show.

Even before Lombardo was a somebody in the Chicago Outfit, he was "the Clown."

It was 1964, and Lombardo was on trial in Chicago with other alleged loan sharks for beating a man who owed the mob money. The case was making headlines, and so was Lombardo. When police took his mug shot, he opened his mouth into a cavernous yawn to stop the cops from getting a good photo of him.

Even then, Lombardo -- then going by a variation of his birth name, Joseph Lombardi -- was referred to in the press as the Clown.

The other notable twist: Lombardo was innocent of the charge. But he was part of a clever plot to scotch the case, authorities said. When police rounded up the loan sharks, they arrested the wrong Joseph Lombardi. At the time, two Chicago gangsters had that name and looked similar. Defense attorneys for the men realized the error but kept silent to spring a trap on prosecutors, authorities said. It worked. When the victim took the stand, he could identify all the defendants as his attackers, all except the Clown.

"Talk about having your jaw drop and your case collapse," said attorney Louis B. Garippo, who prosecuted the case. Lombardo walked out a free man. His fellow mobsters walked too, after a jury acquitted them.

Lombardo's antics would be only his first of many public displays.

After he was arrested in 1980 for leading police on a chase, he left the courthouse one day, past the press corps, hidden behind a newspaper with a peephole cut out for his eyes. He was tripped up, though, as he went through the revolving door.

When Lombardo got out of prison in 1992, the FBI in Chicago began getting strange phone calls from a man identifying himself as Long John Silver. The caller would let agents know when he was going to call through newspaper ads.

The caller provided good info about the Outfit's hierarchy but was anxious to steer agents away from one person -- Lombardo's son, Joseph Jr., whom agents were investigating but never charged. Agents traced the calls as coming from pay phones near Lombardo's home, sources said.

The phone calls never amounted to much, and the agents never proved they were coming from Lombardo. But there was a tantalizing clue. Flip the initials for Long John: you get J and L. Short for Joseph Lombardo? Lombardo could pull that stunt, agents figured.

To get into the Chicago Outfit as a made member -- to have the full rights of membership -- a candidate must murder for the mob. Lombardo's qualifying kill was allegedly the 1965 hit of mob associate and hotel owner Manny Skar, according to court records. Lombardo allegedly shadowed Skar for two days before Skar was killed as he exited his car to enter his apartment on Lake Shore Drive.

Throughout the 1970s and 1980s Lombardo was on the move, wearing multiple hats for the Outfit and allegedly signing off on the murders of three close friends.

The first was in 1974 -- the slaying of businessman Daniel Seifert. Seifert ran a fiberglass business in the suburbs and was an unwitting front for Lombardo. Lombardo and Seifert were so close that Lombardo baby-sat Seifert's kids. But when the feds came calling and Seifert decided to cooperate, Lombardo decided his friend had to go, authorities charge. On Sept. 27, 1974, Seifert was gunned down outside his Bensenville factory as his wife and 4-year-old son watched. With Seifert dead, the charges against Lombardo evaporated. Lombardo is charged in connection with Seifert's murder in the Family Secrets case along with racketeering.

The next to go was insurance magnate Allen Dorfman, who went on Hawaii golf vacations with Lombardo. Lombardo was close to Dorfman, a clout-heavy insurance broker. Lombardo and Dorfman allegedly schemed to control the Teamsters' pension funds, which loaned millions to build Vegas casinos.

Lombardo would allegedly muscle people for Dorfman.

In one conversation, secretly tape-recorded by the feds, Lombardo spoke to mob lawyer and casino investor Morris Schenker, who wasn't coming up with the money Dorfman believed Schenker owed the Outfit.

"Now, it's getting to the point now where you either s - - - or get off the pot," Lombardo said to Schenker, who was 72 at the time of the 1979 conversation. "If they come back and tell me to give you a message and if you want to defy it, I assure you that you will never reach 73," Lombardo said.

Schenker died of natural causes. Dorfman did not, getting gunned down in 1983 in Lincolnwood after Outfit leaders worried he'd turn stool pigeon.

Three years later, another Lombardo friend, mob killer Anthony Spilotro, was beaten to death along with his brother, Michael. Lombardo allegedly oversaw Spilotro, who was the Outfit's man in Las Vegas. The Spilotros and Lombardo were close. Their families came over on the same boat from Italy.

In the end, though, Anthony Spilotro had to die, Outfit leaders decided. He was causing too much heat in Vegas, including taking out a contract on an FBI agent.

The Spilotro brothers were lured to a Bensenville area home on the ruse they were getting promotions. Instead, when they went down to the basement, several mobsters surrounded them and beat them to death. They were buried in an Indiana cornfield.

In recent years, Lombardo has kept a low profile. He has been seen hanging out more at the Italian restaurant La Scarola than with other mobsters.

His defense -- unique but possibly workable -- is that he has moved away from the mob life.

In short, he's retired


"In onore della Famiglia la Famiglia e' aperta"
Re: Joey lombardo [Re: Krsheely] #843425
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Lombardo was the capo of the Grand Avenue Crew after Battaglia and Milwaukee Phil. When he went to prison Louie Eboli headed the crew, but he died soon after and was succeeded by others. It came out in the Family Secrets trial that Lombardo had been pulled down and wanted to head his old crew, so he wasn't happy about it. This is while Outfit watchers were guessing that he was the boss or consigliere of the Outfit, which he wasn't. I don't know how active he was in the 1990s and early 2000s, but he may have been less active than people think. If he was making the phone calls to the FBI after he got out from prison in 1992, it could have been to get back at the new administration.

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Is he still out or behind bars? He's still in prison right? I was thinking after Family Secrets he went back in the clink.

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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Is he still out or behind bars? He's still in prison right? I was thinking after Family Secrets he went back in the clink.


doing life...


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Re: Joey lombardo [Re: Krsheely] #843444
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Lombardo is in a FBP Medical facility in Butner, North Carolina. He's 86.

Re: Joey lombardo [Re: Faithful1] #843461
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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Lombardo was the capo of the Grand Avenue Crew after Battaglia and Milwaukee Phil. When he went to prison Louie Eboli headed the crew, but he died soon after and was succeeded by others. It came out in the Family Secrets trial that Lombardo had been pulled down and wanted to head his old crew, so he wasn't happy about it. This is while Outfit watchers were guessing that he was the boss or consigliere of the Outfit, which he wasn't. I don't know how active he was in the 1990s and early 2000s, but he may have been less active than people think. If he was making the phone calls to the FBI after he got out from prison in 1992, it could have been to get back at the new administration.



u don't go from bribing senators and being in charge of vegas to a nobody

especially after doing 12 years and shutting the fuck up about it

plus him, and the german were the only to initially duck the pinch

a nobody, wouldn't have been tipped off that the feds were coming

Re: Joey lombardo [Re: Krsheely] #843471
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Lombardo wasnt stripped of his duties upon release. He was on parole for a few years after so he wasnt allowed to be seen meeting with outfit guys. Tje exception was Joe Andriacchi who is his cousin. Lombardo is also tight with Difronzo who would never have yanked him. The no-murders rule was said to come from Lombardo upon his release. He was considere to be either consig/ or higher by 2000. I dont remember ever hearing during FS trial that he was shelved. I do remember him complaining about that Bonnano guy that opened the strip joint in Harvey

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Lombardo came from Phil Alderisio's old crew which eventually became the Grand Ave. crew. He rose pretty quickly and was given Las Vegas by proxy through Spilotro. He may have been the top guy on the streets when he was released from prison in '92 although he was severely limited by his parole restrictions but, as Richards_bar stated above, he could still communicate through Andriacchi. Once DiFronzo got out of prison he took a further step back and was more of a background figure, lending advice when needed.


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Re: Joey lombardo [Re: Richards_bar] #843475
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[quote=Richards_bar]Lombardo wasnt stripped of his duties upon release. He was on parole for a few years after so he wasnt allowed to be seen meeting with outfit guys. Tje exception was Joe Andriacchi who is his cousin. Lombardo is also tight with Difronzo who would never have yanked him. The no-murders rule was said to come from Lombardo upon his release. He was considere to be either consig/ or higher by 2000. I dont remember ever hearing during FS trial that he was shelved. I do remember him complaining about that Bonnano guy that opened the strip joint in Harvey [/quote

You know him?

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Lombardo is a very interesting character. Classic last supper picture with him and the upper echelon. Just shows the power he possessed.


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Re: Joey lombardo [Re: Richards_bar] #843553
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Originally Posted By: Richards_bar
Lombardo wasnt stripped of his duties upon release. He was on parole for a few years after so he wasnt allowed to be seen meeting with outfit guys. Tje exception was Joe Andriacchi who is his cousin. Lombardo is also tight with Difronzo who would never have yanked him. The no-murders rule was said to come from Lombardo upon his release. He was considere to be either consig/ or higher by 2000. I dont remember ever hearing during FS trial that he was shelved. I do remember him complaining about that Bonnano guy that opened the strip joint in Harvey


What's your source on this? My source is from testimony at the Family Secrets trial when the prosecution was questioning Lombardo. The prosecution's source was Pat Spilotro, who was Lombardo's dentist. Spilotro said that Lombardo told him in 1993 that "they" took his guys from him and he was put on the shelf.

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The problem I have with that is why would Lombardo tell Pat the whole truth? Of course he's going to tell a citizen he has no role in a criminal organization.


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One of the last genuinely interesting guys. Probably knows everything there is to know about the Chicago Outfit.

I expect the next time anyone will hear anything about him is when he croaks.

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For what it worth, Joey's brother Rocco was telling people in the early 2000's
That his brother was running the show.

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I don't know how Rocco could say that when DiFronzo was the consigliere and Marcello was the boss.

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Everyone i know took it with a grain of salt.

Re: Joey lombardo [Re: jonnynonos] #843652
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What a Book it would be if he wrote about his Life in the outfit it be a Best Seller smile

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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
I don't know how Rocco could say that when DiFronzo was the consigliere and Marcello was the boss.


Well honestly that could be debatable, i mean his brother would be a better source of info than most i'd think next to the fbi possibly but marcello was always a front boss from what i understand and wasnt even 100 percent italian. then again...salemme happened so did junior g (1/4 jewish, 75% italian)

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Both Ann & Patrick Spilotro testified that Lombardo had initially told them that "if he wasn't in prison, if he was out, then it wouldn't have happened", in regards to the murder of the Spilotro's. The "They took me down and took my guys" comment, isn't mentioned in the Operation Family Secrets book, I don't know if it was ever stated during the trial, but it isn't mentioned in the book as coming out like that. And then around 2006 while Lombardo was a fugitive, during a visit with Patrick Spilotro, Lombardo then made a comment about "following orders when they were given", when again asked by Patrick if Lombardo knew what happened to his brothers.

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The Operation Family Secrets book isn't comprehensive. It leaves a lot of testimony out.

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i don't think lombardo had to answer to anybody after he got out of jail

you don't go from talking to accardo and aiuppa to listening to people you outranked

i don't know if he had the final say but i'm sure he wasn't made to take orders

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Okay, you go with your feelings and I'll go with what was presented at the Family Secrets trial.

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He kind of has a point. What is he going to tell Pat, that he's the boss? Of course he is going to say he isn't involved anymore, he already served ten years in jail. I think he still had a role, just not necessarily one where he had a big street presence.


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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Okay, you go with your feelings and I'll go with what was presented at the Family Secrets trial.


that would seem to be a very credible source, testimony in a court of law under oath. I feel strongly that I would go with that source.



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