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whitey Bulger while on the lam #842501
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When the feds found whitey, he had an arsenal of weapons and close to a million in cash. He was running for more than a decade living far from Boston. So my question is, how did he keep the money rolling in all this time? He must have kept in touch with the guys in Boston. Anyone know who his contacts were and how he kept all that money coming in? I'm thinking it would be tough for him to collect tributes from his guys with no real threat from him coming to boston and killing them, and he was too hot to get seriously involved in the streets, so I'm lost...


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Originally Posted By: blacksheep
When the feds found whitey, he had an arsenal of weapons and close to a million in cash. He was running for more than a decade living far from Boston. So my question is, how did he keep the money rolling in all this time? He must have kept in touch with the guys in Boston. Anyone know who his contacts were and how he kept all that money coming in? I'm thinking it would be tough for him to collect tributes from his guys with no real threat from him coming to boston and killing them, and he was too hot to get seriously involved in the streets, so I'm lost...


I dont know the true story behind this but the tv show Ray Donovan has has a character in the show based on this and shows how he gets money, its a great tv show and the part similar to whitey bulger could really be believable to what you are asking

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: merlino] #842519
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Originally Posted By: merlino
Originally Posted By: blacksheep
When the feds found whitey, he had an arsenal of weapons and close to a million in cash. He was running for more than a decade living far from Boston. So my question is, how did he keep the money rolling in all this time? He must have kept in touch with the guys in Boston. Anyone know who his contacts were and how he kept all that money coming in? I'm thinking it would be tough for him to collect tributes from his guys with no real threat from him coming to boston and killing them, and he was too hot to get seriously involved in the streets, so I'm lost...


I dont know the true story behind this but the tv show Ray Donovan has has a character in the show based on this and shows how he gets money, its a great tv show and the part similar to whitey bulger could really be believable to what you are asking


I hope this is sarcasm.

Yeah, I am sure Whitey got money on the lam by being a fixer on the west coast.

rolleyes

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: blacksheep] #842521
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Not much to be confused about. The guy ran most of the city for decades, extorted everyone and was really never even that flashy. I'm sure he had millions stashed to last him through his time on the lam. All Whiteys old guys always say how he always talked about being prepared to go on the lam and I think he really meant it. The guy had like dozens of identities and even enrolled them in clubs and shit to flesh out their characters. From the day Whitey finished his federal bid in the 60's he was determined never to go back, so I'm sure he saved plenty. Although he said he went back to Boston a couple times while he was on the run I think he definitely had enough cash to last the rest of his life.

If he was getting money from anyone, it was probably his brother Billy.

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: blacksheep] #842522
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I believe merlino referred to Sully Sullivan, a Boston gangster who was on the FBI top 10 most wanted list.

In the show, Sully lived with his girlfriend and his mother, while the word around town was that Sully died years ago. In the meantime, he had his people collect for him and whatnot.



But Ray Donovan's a TV show. As for the true story, I really have no idea.

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: RollinBones] #842529
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Originally Posted By: RollinBones
Not much to be confused about. The guy ran most of the city for decades, extorted everyone and was really never even that flashy. I'm sure he had millions stashed to last him through his time on the lam. All Whiteys old guys always say how he always talked about being prepared to go on the lam and I think he really meant it. The guy had like dozens of identities and even enrolled them in clubs and shit to flesh out their characters. From the day Whitey finished his federal bid in the 60's he was determined never to go back, so I'm sure he saved plenty. Although he said he went back to Boston a couple times while he was on the run I think he definitely had enough cash to last the rest of his life.

If he was getting money from anyone, it was probably his brother Billy.


So you think that money was all leftover from his days active? I have no clue myself, but when I saw the amount that he had, I figured he probably was getting new money from somewhere.


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Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: blacksheep] #842537
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Whom could he have had possibly working for him, making collections? Someone would've eventually dropped dime on him and he would've been captured a lot earlier than he was. Majority of it was orobably money that he had went on the run with. Or it's possible he anoymously, under an assumed name, invested the money and watched it multiply over and over. That then leaves the question of how he'd get all the paper cash out of banks and ATM's.

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: CleanBandit] #842538
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Originally Posted By: CleanBandit
I believe merlino referred to Sully Sullivan, a Boston gangster who was on the FBI top 10 most wanted list.

In the show, Sully lived with his girlfriend and his mother, while the word around town was that Sully died years ago. In the meantime, he had his people collect for him and whatnot.



But Ray Donovan's a TV show. As for the true story, I really have no idea.


Exactly right on...... people should watch the show before jumping to conclusions and ray donovan is based on some real stuff, not at all whitey, but sully sullivan is based on a whitey-esque character...great show

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Who would he have collecting for him though? All of his "people" flipped and wrote books. Those who didn't are still in prison or dead. And that still leaves the question of how will that money get back to him, in all of the places he supposedly was, according to the FBI, without leaving a paper trail. There's really no indication of how he got the money or where it was from. It's easy to get guns, so thats not such a mystery.

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: blacksheep] #842544
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read somewhere that he and creig had safety deposit boxes in several different states... just looked at some of the evidence pictures that were released.... looks like the old man was gearing up for world war 3! dozens of handguns, a .223 rifle and several shotguns along with a shitload of ammo and a grenade!

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: blacksheep] #842572
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Originally Posted By: blacksheep
When the feds found whitey, he had an arsenal of weapons and close to a million in cash. He was running for more than a decade living far from Boston. So my question is, how did he keep the money rolling in all this time? He must have kept in touch with the guys in Boston. Anyone know who his contacts were and how he kept all that money coming in? I'm thinking it would be tough for him to collect tributes from his guys with no real threat from him coming to boston and killing them, and he was too hot to get seriously involved in the streets, so I'm lost...
Are you stupid? nobody is gonna pay a fucking rat, dude had stashed money.

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Yea it's amazing that he still had that much money when he got caught. Makes you think how much money that he had when he went on the lam. I highly doubt that people were still giving money to him. Once he left I think he was on his own but he did pretty Damn good I would say.


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Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: blacksheep] #842648
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He was cheap as sh&t, didn't gamble, didn't really womanize and wasn't running around town betting $50k on a football game. He prepared from day #1 for life on the lam.

There's a story that I read once that someone spotted him in like Ireland or Canada or somewhere....outside of a bank. The FBI finally gets there a few days later and sure enough there's a safety deposit box under a known alias with like $800k in it.


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See that Irish prick was very frugal and he had that arpartment for years before he went on the lam, so who ia to say he didnt go there and just stuff it with heavy ammunition and well as alot of scharole.The fact that he been planned for life on lam was enough. Forget his lifestyle when he was in the streets thats known but how he prepared for the lam. He traveled many places and had many diffeent cars, id's, as well as many apartments. I also heard that this fucking dude spooked a few people when he came back but of course everyone thought it was a big lazzo. But as we now know the fuck it wasnt. All in all the dude was prepared, obviously he has his family and knows many bookies and drug dealers he couldve spooked and extort, he had money and probably came back to get some more or what was owed to him. With that fucking creep you never know what he came here for.


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Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: blacksheep] #842672
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If he made enough money back in the day to still have a million dollars laying around 16 years later, he's gotta be respected for that. For all the money the Italians make, half would be broke in a week without steady income with the way they spend


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Originally Posted By: RollinBones
Not much to be confused about. The guy ran most of the city for decades, extorted everyone and was really never even that flashy. I'm sure he had millions stashed to last him through his time on the lam. All Whiteys old guys always say how he always talked about being prepared to go on the lam and I think he really meant it. The guy had like dozens of identities and even enrolled them in clubs and shit to flesh out their characters. From the day Whitey finished his federal bid in the 60's he was determined never to go back, so I'm sure he saved plenty. Although he said he went back to Boston a couple times while he was on the run I think he definitely had enough cash to last the rest of his life.

If he was getting money from anyone, it was probably his brother Billy.


Well said. I doubt Billy was giving him anything since he was being watched like a hawk. The rest I agree with you, Whitey was well prepared for this and prepared FOR YEARS before he went on the run. He knew he would have to take off eventually and did and it almost worked.

Re: whitey Bulger while on the lam [Re: mackinblack007] #843027
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Originally Posted By: mackinblack007
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When the feds found whitey, he had an arsenal of weapons and close to a million in cash. He was running for more than a decade living far from Boston. So my question is, how did he keep the money rolling in all this time? He must have kept in touch with the guys in Boston. Anyone know who his contacts were and how he kept all that money coming in? I'm thinking it would be tough for him to collect tributes from his guys with no real threat from him coming to boston and killing them, and he was too hot to get seriously involved in the streets, so I'm lost...
Are you stupid? nobody is gonna pay a fucking rat, dude had stashed money.


when did his friends know he was talking to the fbi? did they know he was an informer before he went on the lam?

just when did everyone know that he was a rat?



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Originally Posted By: blacksheep
When the feds found whitey, he had an arsenal of weapons and close to a million in cash. He was running for more than a decade living far from Boston. So my question is, how did he keep the money rolling in all this time? He must have kept in touch with the guys in Boston. Anyone know who his contacts were and how he kept all that money coming in? I'm thinking it would be tough for him to collect tributes from his guys with no real threat from him coming to boston and killing them, and he was too hot to get seriously involved in the streets, so I'm lost...
Are you stupid? nobody is gonna pay a fucking rat, dude had stashed money.


when did his friends know he was talking to the fbi? did they know he was an informer before he went on the lam?

just when did everyone know that he was a rat?

Flemmi outted him in court, lol flemmi is such a pathetic pos, doing life and still ratting, fucking loser idiot.

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Yea Flemmi knew obviously as both were rats and dealt with Connolly, and the Boston Globe I think leaked before he went on the run that he was a rat too.

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ok, thank you Dixie.



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No problem. The Boston guys can confirm the date of the Boston Globe leak, and I think there were possible rumors in the underworld that Whitey was a rat too but not sure on that and when it came out.

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Maybe he used that apartment as a large safety deserve. The cash was in the wall he probaly had millions. He got the apartment I think a few years before the pinch. Probaly had 2+ mill cash there. Whatever you say or think about Bulger he was smart. Me personally think if he was Italian would have had jerry n Larry make him no doubt. Guy loves killing prison money dressing nice pinky rings n caddy's. Say no more.

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He watched his close friends flemmi and martorano lam it. He used what they told him for his future. Always feel weird when I read in books whitey hated the mafia. Its dumb he did everything they did including all there style from the godfather film. Legendary mafia guy Joe Russo put whitey together with the winter hill gang which was another mafia crew just not made guys. They all worked hand an hand.

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That mob capo got caught on a wire saying the hill is us to some guy trying to skate on a Vegas bill or someshit. The FBI choose to ignore this and there all disgraced today cause of that really. Laary said they'll kill for us and whatnot and nothing.

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guarantee all that money was just stash money.. no way he was still getting money when he was on the run... im sure that was just money he had stashed away...he was on the fbi's most wanted list. no way he was still having people collect and run shit for him... and honestly it may seem like a shit ton of money but when you have 0 income and lets say you were on the lam for 20 years.. that money is constantly depleting...

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DSB. Yaeh he probaly put 2 mill in that wall back in the early 90 tys it was from maybe a criminal looked hard to break in its a condo unit on beach not first floor. Say me or you high on crack were not breaking into fake walls. Smart play.

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guarantee all that money was just stash money.. no way he was still getting money when he was on the run... im sure that was just money he had stashed away...he was on the fbi's most wanted list. no way he was still having people collect and run shit for him... and honestly it may seem like a shit ton of money but when you have 0 income and lets say you were on the lam for 20 years.. that money is constantly depleting...


Yea no doubt. To think anyone was feeding him money is naive because he was so hot on the Feds shit list at that point. #2 on the most wanted list and folks think he was meeting someone to get extortion money? No way.

As for the money, it would have lasted the rest of his life and that was all that he needed. He knew how to live off the bare essentials and he did so after going on the run.

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I still think this whole Whitey bulger saga was a fascinating story. The real life stuff is so much better then the made up.


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I still think this whole Whitey bulger saga was a fascinating story. The real life stuff is so much better then the made up.


definitely on that and if he did hide the money away 20 years ago that is some brilliant stuff, does anyone know for sure if he was in other parts of the world while on the run? Would he be able to get on planes or did he possibly do some of the running via freighter ships?

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They found safety de. In the united kingdom's think 50k. They just had a grand jury in Boston about his hidden money. They'll just charge all his friends n family with perjury till he gives in.

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