GangsterBB.NET


Funko Pop! Movies:
The Godfather 50th Anniversary Collectors Set -
3 Figure Set: Michael, Vito, Sonny

Who's Online Now
1 registered members (JGil916), 190 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Site Links
>Help Page
>More Smilies
>GBB on Facebook
>Job Saver

>Godfather Website
>Scarface Website
>Mario Puzo Website
NEW!
Active Member Birthdays
No birthdays today
Newest Members
TheGhost, Pumpkin, RussianCriminalWorld, JohnnyTheBat, Havana
10349 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
Irishman12 67,491
DE NIRO 44,945
J Geoff 31,285
Hollander 23,923
pizzaboy 23,296
SC 22,902
Turnbull 19,512
Mignon 19,066
Don Cardi 18,238
Sicilian Babe 17,300
plawrence 15,058
Forum Statistics
Forums21
Topics42,334
Posts1,058,814
Members10,349
Most Online796
Jan 21st, 2020
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joe Colombo's sons.. #841877
05/13/15 03:08 PM
05/13/15 03:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline OP
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline OP
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
I'm reading the Five Families for like the third time and came across Joe Cantalupo reporting that in the midst of the confusion surrounding Colombos shooting, that Carmine Persico and his brothers wrested control of the family away from Colombo's kids and loyalists for themselves. Cantalupo is quoted as saying "The Colombo boys are on the bottom now and The Persicos are on the top."

With that said, I know Anthony, Joe Jr. & the third one pled guilty during a case in which they were accused of things including gambling, loansharking, extortion and murder during the early 80's, but I didn't even think they were all made, let alone involved. My question is this, were they ever in a position to takeover the family after the shooting of their dad? And where were they during the Persico/Orena war, and which side did they fall on?

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #841884
05/13/15 03:30 PM
05/13/15 03:30 PM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 778
Castellammare del Golfo
Malandrino Offline
Underboss
Malandrino  Offline
Underboss
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 778
Castellammare del Golfo
I think at least one of them was made, no? I would think so. Also, wasn't one of his sons arrested for some bullshit charge on melting pennies or something like that? The feds must have been really desperate to get under Joe's skin.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: Malandrino] #841893
05/13/15 04:16 PM
05/13/15 04:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
B
bronx Offline
Underboss
bronx  Offline
B
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
anthony was a captain joe jr was a made guy ..chris and vinny never made

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #841898
05/13/15 04:53 PM
05/13/15 04:53 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 6,531
P
pmac Offline
pmac  Offline
P

Joined: May 2012
Posts: 6,531
Think Chris had a HBO show for a week. Wonder if his dad leftthem a lot of shit. What's was he boss for 6 yrs in the golden era. Probaly a million a year. And there wasn't any girls?

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #841902
05/13/15 05:03 PM
05/13/15 05:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
S
SinatraClub Offline OP
Underboss
SinatraClub  Offline OP
S
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,841
Vinny was the third one who plead guilty in that case, just to mention.

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: pmac] #841920
05/13/15 09:39 PM
05/13/15 09:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,372
Alabama
D
dixiemafia Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
dixiemafia  Offline
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
D
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,372
Alabama
Originally Posted By: pmac
Think Chris had a HBO show for a week. Wonder if his dad leftthem a lot of shit. What's was he boss for 6 yrs in the golden era. Probaly a million a year. And there wasn't any girls?


As long as they kept him a vegetable I imagine they had a good bit of hospital bills though.

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #841931
05/13/15 11:05 PM
05/13/15 11:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
furio_from_naples Offline
furio_from_naples  Offline

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/10/joe-colombo-jr-dies-his-1970-arrest.html

Joseph A. Colombo Junior, affectionately known as "Pop," died on October 29, 2014 at his home in Newburgh, New York. He was 67. He's survived by his wife, Diane, and kids Dina, Denise, and Joe.
He died following a long battle with Neurological Lyme Disease, according to one news report.

Joe Junior was among Joseph Colombo Senior's five children, which also includes sons Christopher, Anthony and Vincent.

Visitation will be held from 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 p.m. on Monday, November 3rd at Brooks Funeral Home, 481 Gidney Ave., Newburgh. A Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated by Rev. William Scafidi at 10 a.m. on Tuesday, November 4th at St. Mary's Church, Newburgh. Burial will follow in Calvary Cemetery, New Windsor.

In lieu of flowers, the family requests that memorial donations be made in Joseph's name to Hospice of Orange and Sullivan Counties, 800 Stony Brook Ct., Newburgh, NY 12550 or to Lyme Research Alliance, 2001 West Main Street, Suite 280, Stamford, CT 06902.



Colombo Senior, the infamous Mafia hit man who took over the Profaci family after proving his fealty to the Mafia Commission, specifically Carlo Gambino, started his civil rights effort following Joe Junior's arrest.

Colombo was later shot in the head at a rally and put in a coma from which he died years later.

Colombo created the Italian-American Civil Rights League in the spring of 1970, after the April arrest, that year, of Joe Colombo Jr. on a "rare federal complaint," as Selwyn Raab noted in Five Families, "a $300,000 conspiracy to melt down nickel coins and sell them as silver ingots."

Joe Colombo Jr. was last indicted in 1986, according to web research; he appears to have been inactive as a member of the Mafia or he maintained a truly low profile, while two of his brothers were indicted as recently as 2004 on racketeering charges.

After the 1970 arrest of his firstborn son, Joe Senior decided to follow the path never before traveled. Instead of hiring a high-priced attorney he staged demonstrations and actually had his men join him in picketing the Manhattan office of the FBI.

" At the time, mobsters had a choice of following the Colombo model of crossing over to legitimacy and political participation or continuing on a path to eventual destruction. We know which one they chose and we know the results."

The near-daily protests occurred amid the tumultuous unrest caused by the ongoing Vietnam War. Further fueling the mass protests and social unrest of the day were ethnic and feminists groups seeking civil rights and equality. There was a "rising clamor" as these movements all went on the march.

Colombo rode on the "Mafia is myth" issue and placed Italian-Americans alongside other suffering groups as being unfairly targeted by police and the FBI. Joe Colombo did win some credibility among Italian-Americans.

"The public was acutely aware of the government's abysmal record of violations of, and indifference to, the civil rights of many groups," Raab wrote.

One former mobster familiar with Joseph Colombo Sr. told us:


"Joe Colombo Sr. was a man who tried to bridge two opposing worlds and paid for it with his life. He was a man out of his time. While John Gotti was a 1930s-1950s gangster in the 1980s-1990s, Joe was a 21st Century thinker in the 1960s.
"Joe Colombo was a visionary who grabbed onto events and rode them in a way that was misunderstood by other mobsters and feared by the authorities. Had things been different we would see Joe Colombo hospitals, senior citizen centers, and camps for underprivileged kids.
"At the time, mobsters had a choice of following the Colombo model of crossing over to legitimacy and political participation or continuing on a path to eventual destruction. We know which one they chose and we know the results."

Given New York's historical home to the nation's mass media, the mob boss was able to garner extensive attention from newspapers, television and radio and became something of a celebrity.

Joe Junior, then 26, was eventually acquitted of the "silver conspiracy" charges when a key witness abruptly and for no apparent reason changed his testimony. Richard Salomone suddenly determined that Joe the younger actually didn't know nothing about the racket.
Still, Colombo's actions generated a massive response from many Italian-Americans who felt demeaned by the federal government and the entertainment industry. Colombo then formed the Italian-American Civil Rights League.

One gathering on June 29, 1970, drew some 150,000 people to New York's Columbus Circle for an "Italian-American Unity Day" rally. The participants included five U.S. Congressmen and several prominent entertainers. Reportedly, other Mafiosi, including Gambino himself supported the movement and actually used their labor muscle to get union members to quit working for the day to attend the rally.

The League swiftly attracted national attention. Colombo appeared on television interviews, fundraisers, and speaking engagements. In 1971, Colombo aligned the League with Rabbi and political activist Meir Kahane's Jewish Defense League (JDL), claiming that both groups were being harassed by the federal government.
At one point, Colombo posted bail for 11 jailed JDL members.

In the spring of 1971, Paramount Pictures started filming The Godfather with the assistance of Colombo and the League. The film originally faced great opposition in New York, where filming had been slated to commence. When producer Albert Ruddy met with Colombo and agreed to excise the terms "Mafia" and "Cosa Nostra" from the film, the League cooperated fully. This is according to a story by Nicholas Pileggi.

Colombo won additional concessions, Pileggi reported:

Ruddy approached Colombo confidently... because he had previously sat in midtown restaurants with Colombo's son, Anthony, and worked out a tentative accord. Ruddy had agreed to delete ''Mafia,'' ''Cosa Nostra'' and all other Italian words from the script. He had promised to allow the League to review the script and change anything it felt was damaging to the Italian-American image. And finally, he had agreed to turn over the proceeds of the film's New York premiere to the League's hospital fund.
When Ruddy arrived at the Park Sheraton and found 1,500 members of the League seated in the Grand Ballroom looking very dour, he was at first confused. Colombo's son quieted a few of the early boos by telling the delegates about the script deletions Ruddy had agreed to make. He told the crowd about the League's getting the proceeds of the premiere.
''I couldn't care less if they gave us $2-million,'' the elder Colombo suddenly interjected. ''No one can buy the right to defame Italian-Americans.''
It was Ruddy's turn then. He said the film would depict individuals and would not defame or stereotype a group. It was really a movie about a corrupt society. A movie about America today. A movie about what happens to poor immigrants faced with prejudice and discrimination. He pointed out that there were many roles in the film, and certainly not all of the bad guys were Italians.
''Look at who's playing the roles,'' Ruddy said, about to continue with a list of non-Italian villains in the film.
''Who is playing?'' Colombo suddenly asked.
''Lots of people,'' Ruddy said.
''How about a good kid from Bensonhurst?'' Colombo asked.
Ruddy smiled. Now he understood. During all his discussions with Anthony Colombo, casting had never been mentioned. Soon, with Colombo pointing to one delegate after another and Ruddy nodding in agreement, the crowd began to cheer as bit players and extras were chosen. At the end of the meeting, Colombo himself inserted in Ruddy's lapel a pin designating him a captain in the League.

Colombo had also been fighting a cold war with the Gallo faction. It threatened to turn hot in early 1971, when Crazy Joey Gallo was released from prison. Colombo invited Gallo to a peace meeting -- and Gallo refused, saying he had never agreed to peace. Gallo proclaimed that for $100,000 he'd call off the dogs of war.

Acting boss Vincenzo Aloi reportedly then ordered Gallo's death.

On March 11, 1971, after being convicted of perjury for lying on a real estate broker's application, Colombo was sentenced to two and half years in state prison.

His appeal pushed back his sentence.

On June 28, 1971, Colombo was shot in the head at near-point blank range at the second Italian Unity Day rally. He was standing at the podium to address the crowd when Jerome Johnson, an African-American who was wearing press credentials approached with a statuesque female assistant by his side. She supposedly distracted Colombo while Johnson could get the gun out.

Johnson fired three shots from an automatic pistol into Colombo's head and neck. Several men wrestled Johnson to the ground. A second man stepped out of the crowd and shot Johnson dead, then disappeared and was never identified.

Colombo remained near-comatose for the next seven years. On August 28, 1971, he was moved to his Blooming Grove estate. On May 22, 1978, Joe Colombo died of cardiac arrest at St. Luke's Hospital (later St. Luke's Cornwall Hospital) in Newburgh, New York.

The New York Police Department eventually concluded that Johnson was a lone gunman.

However, one theory was that Carlo Gambino organized the shooting. Colombo supposedly had refused to listen to Gambino's eventual complaints about the League; Gambino had reversed his original position of support for the League based on the fact that Colombo was seriously pissing off the FBI and NYPD.. Colombo allegedly spit in Gambino's face during one argument.
The Colombo family leadership was convinced that Joe Gallo was the prime suspect based on Gallo's ongoing hostility to Colombo when he was released from prison. In addition, the family assumed that Gallo had recruited Johnson through some African-American friends he'd made while in prison.

Crazy Joey Gallo was executed on April 7, 1972, likely by Colombo family gunmen. The killing happened at 4:30 a.m. while Gallo and his family were inside Umberto's Clam House in Little Italy to continue celebrating his 43rd birthday.

As for Joseph Junior, it appears he was last indicted in 1986 when, according to the NYTimes.com, three sons of the late Joseph Colombo and 12 other members and associates of the Colombo crime family pleaded guilty to a Federal racketeering conspiracy charge under a plea agreement worked out with prosecutors.

The arrangement provided for a 14-year prison term and $500,000 in forfeiture and restitution for Anthony Colombo, then 41 years old, of Blooming Grove, N.Y., in Orange County, who was described in the original Federal indictment as head of a ''crew'' within the Colombo crime group.

His brothers -- Joseph A. Colombo Jr., then 39, of New Windsor, N.Y., and Vincent, then 35, of Washingtonville, N.Y., both in Orange County -- would receive five-year terms. The other defendants would receive terms of 5, 9 or 14 years. The agreement, announced in Federal District Court in Brooklyn, is subject to approval by Judge Henry Bramwell, who set sentencing for Sept. 18.

All the defendants were to stand trial on a 72-count indictment charging them with engaging in a 10-year series of crimes, including murder, drug trafficking, extortion and robberies. All pleaded guilty to a count of racketeering conspiracy and to certain acts that were part of that conspiracy. The plea agreement provides for the dismissal of the remaining counts and for no further prosecution on these matters in other courts."

Then, as Jerry Capeci reported in 2011, "Christopher Colombo, who was indicted in 2004 on racketeering, extortion and gambling charges along with his mobster brother Anthony and 17 others, tried unsuccessfully to cop a plea deal to gambling charges and went to trial in 2007.

"He beat the racketeering and extortion charges but was found guilty of bookmaking, and sentenced to a year and a day in prison. ...[h]e completed his post-prison supervised release" and was at the time working with the producer of his HBO show, Chris Gambale, on a proposed reality-TV show.

Last edited by furio_from_naples; 05/13/15 11:16 PM.
Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #841934
05/13/15 11:27 PM
05/13/15 11:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
furio_from_naples Offline
furio_from_naples  Offline

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,237
naples,italy
Anthony Colombo b.1945 made
Joseph "Pop" Colombo Jnr (1946-2014)
Vincent Colombo associate ?
Christopher Colombo reality wannabe


http://nypost.com/2007/01/18/mafia-court-gamble/

‘MAFIA’ COURT GAMBLE
By Kati Cornell SmithJanuary 18, 2007 | 10:00am

Chris Colombo carries a famous gangster’s name and “looks like he just walked off the set of ‘The Sopranos’ ” – but he’s really just a simple bookie and gambler, his lawyer said yesterday.
Defense lawyer Jeremy Schneider cut his losses as Colombo’s racketeering trial got under way, conceding guilt on gambling charges, but denying that the son of murdered mob boss Joseph Colombo ran a renegade crew that used threats of violence to rake in cash.
“He looks like he just walked off the set of ‘ the Sopranos.’ He’s going to sound like he just auditioned for ‘The Sopranos,’ ” Schneider said of Colombo, whose real-life try at stardom fell flat when HBO pulled the plug on his reality show, “House Arrest,” in 2005.
“He’s a gambler. He’s a bookie. He is not a boss of a crew,” Schneider said as the barrel-chested Colombo, dressed in a flashy pinstriped suit and silver tie, listened from the defense table in Manhattan federal court.
The admission came after Assistant U.S. Attorney Lisa Baroni told jurors how Chris Colombo and his brother Anthony terrorized victims and lined their pockets as “bosses” of the “Colombo Brothers’ Crew.”
Prosecutors have conceded they invented the crew’s name for the purposes of the indictment, but not the criminal organization itself. They claim the brothers were on the losing side of the Colombo crime family war in the 1990s and struck out on their own.
Chris and his lower-key sibling Anthony, who leans on a cane and came to court in a plain gray suit, are on trial for a slew of racketeering charges, including gambling, loan-sharking, extortion and fraud.
The feds claim Anthony was double-trouble for DoubleClick – an Internet ad company that has serviced Microsoft, General Motors and Coca-Cola – after a cohort landed a job overseeing cleaning contracts during construction of the firm’s new offices.
Baroni said the insider ensured the contract went to a cleaning service under the crew’s control and approved payment for “work that was done and work that wasn’t done” to the tune of more than $100,000 in a “massive double-billing scheme.”
Chris Colombo is accused of overseeing the crew’s gambling operations in East Harlem and The Bronx and receiving cash deliveries at his Orange County compound.
Meanwhile, Anthony allegedly shook down the owner of a small construction company, forcing him to write paychecks to his wife in a no-show job scheme.
kati.cornell@nypost.com

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: furio_from_naples] #841937
05/14/15 12:40 AM
05/14/15 12:40 AM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,571
S
Scorsese Offline
Underboss
Scorsese  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,571
Wasn't there one female mob associate that they raped or something? She ended up testifying against them. I might be thinking of a different crew.

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #841944
05/14/15 04:34 AM
05/14/15 04:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
B
bronx Offline
Underboss
bronx  Offline
B
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
you have a good memory..way back ..joe sr's daughters son was doing home invasions and was pinched for many crimes, on one robbery he raped a woman.

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #842166
05/16/15 03:47 AM
05/16/15 03:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 494
N.E. Philly/Florida
PhillyMob Offline
Capo
PhillyMob  Offline
Capo
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 494
N.E. Philly/Florida
Thanks for info. Colombo was an interesting character during interesting times.


"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #842176
05/16/15 06:41 AM
05/16/15 06:41 AM
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 576
NY
B
blacksheep Offline
Underboss
blacksheep  Offline
B
Underboss
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 576
NY
The most surprising part to me is that the colombo family would settle in a filthy dump like newburgh.


Make that coffee to go
Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: SinatraClub] #842225
05/16/15 02:13 PM
05/16/15 02:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,627
DiLorenzo Offline
Underboss
DiLorenzo  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,627
Chris Colombo, the transvestite follower ???

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: bronx] #842237
05/16/15 05:21 PM
05/16/15 05:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,571
S
Scorsese Offline
Underboss
Scorsese  Offline
S
Underboss
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,571
Originally Posted By: bronx
you have a good memory..way back ..joe sr's daughters son was doing home invasions and was pinched for many crimes, on one robbery he raped a woman.


Are there any articles on that?

Re: Joe Colombo's sons.. [Re: Scorsese] #842242
05/16/15 06:27 PM
05/16/15 06:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
B
bronx Offline
Underboss
bronx  Offline
B
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,185
there was back then, i don't know how to look it up


Moderated by  Don Cardi, J Geoff, SC, Turnbull 

Powered by UBB.threads™