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The fast-track to getting made? #839482
04/28/15 02:11 AM
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Am I just imagining it, or do guys with relatives in the Mob get made a lot sooner than anyone else?


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Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #839483
04/28/15 02:16 AM
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You're not imagining it. It's not just the mafia that works that way. How many times privileged kids get spots in colleges, fraternities or whatever because of their relatives being in those same places. It's natural.

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #839484
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I just made a treat but this is a list of the guys that was made under the 30s.

Liborio Bellomo made in 1977 at 20y his father Salvatore was genovese made man
Michael Franzese (son of Sonny) made in 1975 at 24
Alphonse Trucchio,(son of Ronnie) 38 years made in 2001 at 24
John “Junior” Gotti Jr.,made on december 24 1988 at 24
Salvatore Testa (son of philip) made in 1980 at 24
Philip leonetti made in 1980 at the age of 27,nephew of Scarfo sr

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Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: CleanBandit] #839485
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Originally Posted By: CleanBandit
You're not imagining it. It's not just the mafia that works that way. How many times privileged kids get spots in colleges, fraternities or whatever because of their relatives being in those same places. It's natural.


Yes, and itis called nepotism.

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #839517
04/28/15 08:18 AM
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Cesare Bonventre, He became a capo in 1979 at age 28. I'm sure his uncle or great-uncle John Bonventre, who was a former Bonanno underboss pulled some string, despite being retired. He was also related to the Bonanno's through blood relations.


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Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: furio_from_naples] #839529
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: CleanBandit
You're not imagining it. It's not just the mafia that works that way. How many times privileged kids get spots in colleges, fraternities or whatever because of their relatives being in those same places. It's natural.


Yes, and itis called nepotism.


yup exactly. nepotism runs deep in the mafia

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #839534
04/28/15 10:01 AM
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I'm pretty sure that when Michael Genovese,Pittsburgh LCN, promoted Chuckie Porter in 1987 after Jo Jo Pecora died to under-boss that Chuckie was under 30. This had everything to do with drug money and nothing to do with nepotism. Although I'm well aware that nepotism brought quite a few "kids" up before their time.


"Never walk in a room that you don't know how to get out of"- Henry Zottola
Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #839535
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The 3 basciano's kids are made ?

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #839536
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Nope I don't think so, Furio.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: furio_from_naples] #839545
04/28/15 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
The 3 basciano's kids are made ?

No.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: Extortion] #839548
04/28/15 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: Extortion
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: CleanBandit
You're not imagining it. It's not just the mafia that works that way. How many times privileged kids get spots in colleges, fraternities or whatever because of their relatives being in those same places. It's natural.


Yes, and itis called nepotism.


yup exactly. nepotism runs deep in the mafia

True. Being born to it, in some way shape or form, has always made the button easier--and faster--to attain.

This was especially true during the Gotti era Gambinos. Everybody who was even halfway related to someone close to the administration was getting their kid made at 25.

To be honest, it was ridiculous. Look at Craig DePalma. Poor kid.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: pizzaboy] #839551
04/28/15 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Extortion
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: CleanBandit
You're not imagining it. It's not just the mafia that works that way. How many times privileged kids get spots in colleges, fraternities or whatever because of their relatives being in those same places. It's natural.


Yes, and itis called nepotism.


yup exactly. nepotism runs deep in the mafia

True. Being born to it, in some way shape or form, has always made the button easier--and faster--to attain.

This was especially true during the Gotti era Gambinos. Everybody who was even halfway related to someone close to the administration was getting their kid made at 25.

To be honest, it was ridiculous. Look at Craig DePalma. Poor kid.


That story truly is one of the most depressing true crime stories out there. And that's saying something. And you know that's not a dig at you PB, you know you're my favorite retiree wink

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: Chopper2012] #839557
04/28/15 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chopper2012
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
True. Being born to it, in some way shape or form, has always made the button easier--and faster--to attain.

This was especially true during the Gotti era Gambinos. Everybody who was even halfway related to someone close to the administration was getting their kid made at 25.

To be honest, it was ridiculous. Look at Craig DePalma. Poor kid.

That story truly is one of the most depressing true crime stories out there. And that's saying something. And you know that's not a dig at you PB

Why would I take that as a dig, Chop?

Greg was a horrible human being. Now, there are moralists on the boards who say that they're all "bad guys." And from a legal point of view, that might be true. But from a moral point of view? Not even close.

They're just like anyone else. Some of them are okay, some of them are assholes, and some of them are truly "bad" guys. Greg was the latter. He didn't have a jovial side and a larger than life personality. That's how Garcia may have described him in his book, but Garcia was bringing him money every week (courtesy of the FBI). But if Greg wasn't earning off you, he didn't even smile at you. And God forbid you weren't with anyone, and he decided that he wanted a piece of you? He was one of the biggest bullies I've ever seen come out of that world. And not to sound like an asshole, but I've seen a lot of them.

I don't even think he'd mind me posting this, and I may have told it before anyway. But Greg had an older son, too. He was older than Craig but still a few years younger than I am. He was a funeral director for a few years. So even though I had known him a little bit before, after he got his director's license I got to know him very well because I was already working for the union at that point.

Anyway, he's a very nice guy, but he wanted NO PART of his father's world. And because of that, Greg cut him out of his fucking life. Because the kid didn't want to be a fucking mob guy! Craig saw that, didn't want to repeat the cycle and "let his father down," so he allowed Greg to shove him into the life. And now he's fucking dead.

Originally Posted By: Chopper2012
you know you're my favorite retiree wink

Now, that was a shot lol.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: Friend_of_Henry] #839577
04/28/15 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Friend_of_Henry
I'm pretty sure that when Michael Genovese,Pittsburgh LCN, promoted Chuckie Porter in 1987 after Jo Jo Pecora died to under-boss that Chuckie was under 30. This had everything to do with drug money and nothing to do with nepotism. Although I'm well aware that nepotism brought quite a few "kids" up before their time.


Henry - even though Porter was considered part of the "younger generation" of the Pittsburgh LCN, he was 53 when he was inducted into the family in 1986; and thus, he was 54 when Genovese promoted him to underboss.

http://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20001202porter2.asp

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: K1NG6] #839615
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Initially the reports were that no one new when Chuckie was born. This is not to say that I take issue with the Post article.
Additionally I misunderstood and posted when I knew he was made Under-Boss.

I first met Chuckie in December of 1976. I was told at that time that he was already a "Made Man". Hell, he looked and acted younger than I did and I was only 29. If he was under 30 when he was made then he would to have been made in the 60's when John was boss. That didn't happen for sure. My bad - Sorry 'bout that.


"Never walk in a room that you don't know how to get out of"- Henry Zottola
Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: K1NG6] #839641
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always wondered, Last name Porter ...was he Italian at all?

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: sophilly] #839687
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Originally Posted By: sophilly
always wondered, Last name Porter ...was he Italian at all?


Only on his mother's side apparently. Quite rare for somebody like that to be made I'd imagine.

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #839696
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Robbing a card game usually helps

Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: NE1020] #839811
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Originally Posted By: NE1020
Robbing a card game usually helps


Well, unless you end up shooting at made guys. wink

"This is a low level game, guys. All you're going to get here is practice."

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Re: The fast-track to getting made? [Re: night_timer] #860065
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well first you have to be introduced. then you have to be a good earner and be a button pusher(a killer). BUT the money thing would be the main thing that would get you noticed by the upper level men. everything now a days is based on money though so just earn as much as possible and you'll forsure get noticed.


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we smoke everyone in this b word like a hookah now.
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