I believe ya PB. These rats always try to portray themselves as having a conscience.. look at Henry Hill... "Aww, I tried to help him... I tried to stop it. I tried to stall for time, but I couldn't do nothing." It's always the same story. Bullshit, you were just as sociopathic as the rest of the guys, you just turned rat and want to make the feds (and judge) more sympathetic to your cause.

"You ain't a lawyer anymore Dave, you a gangster now"

Was one of the best lines in that movie.

Mother thing Jr. Points out in his book was alite trying to act like be was on the dibono hit. Jr says no way. His father made sure it was bobby boriello with 2 unmade guys there to make there bones to get made. Charles carneg and some older guy in contes crew Anthony Harpo v. Union guy. Mistakey the Irish guy mcman was there and threatend with death he say a peep. Sammy the bull gave specific orders so they get there buttons. Gotti sr wouldn't need any outside help. Like all alite killed was other drug dealers trying to kill him. He really was after 1991 like gang members say false flagging. He went to other states playing the role. He meet Ralph natale in jail.

How does everyone in the Bonnano family feel about Mancuso killing his wife? Killing a wiseguy is one thing but a woman? Not to mention your own wife. Seems like a pretty weird guy to be running the family, I wouldn't feel comfortable working with him... might as well throw in Christy Tick for that matter.

Is Di Fiore street boss for Mancuso?

The leadership of that family is so complicated.

I'm assuming that Basciano would still be official boss if he wasn't in ADX.

Not for nothing. That letter from Mancuso that Dominick Cicale revealed makes him look like a banal imbecile.

The old guard in the Bronx/East Harlem factions of the Westside and Luccheses hate him. It doesn't matter what the Bonannos think (although most of them can't stand him either). But Mancuso is the perfect lightning rod for the Feds right now because he has five years to go. No way he walks out the boss. No fucking way.

As an aside, you can throw out that bullshit about a Bronx Bonanno comeback being waged by an almost 80-year-old geriatric. It's more bullshit by a second rate journalist. The power in that family has completely shifted out east, into Queens and Nassau.


Using today's psychological standards, Furnari would be considered a serial rapist and a registered sex offender. But he's a "man of honor." Right?

I wonder if in the near future Westside and Luccheses just merge into one family. Seems plausible.

Heyyy, my home county.

never

It's not remotely possible.

They work together so well in their white collar partnerships because they're two separate groups working together. You merge them, jealousy sets in, ten guys want to be the boss, and it all goes to shit.

Those two families have been working together since the old East Harlem days, then in the Bronx, and up to Westchester. If it ain't broke, you don't fix it .

Good point, was thinking like 2 companies merging together to cut costs / increase efficiency... I guess it doesn't work that way for wiseguys

it does when they want your end, they give you a retirement party.. st john's

If in 40-50 years the mob in NYC is on its last legs, they would be the two families I would imagine to merge together. The Gambinos and the Bonnanos for that matter as well. Colombos would probably be pretty much gone (after their 4th war of course )

that far out, who knows if they will be close, gambino and lucchese, were that close, now look ..they were killing gambino guys,

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That far out, it might be the Ramirez and the Wong families that are merging.

lol.. yeah. we have campos .and knapinick or what ever his name is. the guys he could be talking about are not even born yet..!

i don't think there will ever a "merging" of 2 families discussed in a sitdown, no matter what. More plausible, and apparently already done by the gambinos, is a takeover ("we are now run by") like rescently discovered with the decavalcante's

You can say what you want about the cosa nostra, but no other ethnic group would be strong like them they ruled from the bottom to the top.

John Alite was just a good associate that did the dirty work and brought money in the top, if the big boss ordered him to go he would definitely go 6 feet under in that time.he was not one of them and if he would get caught they can always say he is not one of us and thats smart.

i would say he was a really though guy that worked for the cosa nostra but come on but he was a simple tool and would never get in the top circle.

And PB i like your info 10 times better than that ed scarpo pretending to get messages from wiseguys .the only worthy messages would be from the old timers and i doubt he would get from them

what is it worth to get emails from 2015 associate's or members emails just make me laugh that guy

I feel the same way you do about all those rats, they are all trying to save their own skins..... worthless dogs.