Was he even made or could of he been made? Read he had some Albanian in him but must of been on mothers side as the name alite sounds Italian. Was he a big as a player with the gambinos as Trevor McDonald made out or was he just another wannabe punk?

Think he changed his name to sound Italian?

Seems to have just been a low level associate, all that talk on the Trevor McDonald to sell his book..

No.

Use the search feature. There's a ten page thread on the guy that's literally no more than a month and a half old.


No, he went by Alletto to sound Italian. But his lineage is from Kosovo on both sides of his family.

Certainly enjoyed his ten minutes of fame on Trev's show!!

If I ever hear or read the name john fucking alite one more time I'm gonna flip.

Like John Alite did?

Between some people here and that jew with the Italian name, I've had enough john alite to last ten lifetimes

Never liked him..he was a gofer..

I bet George wishes he could take that book back. Alite is full of shit. Him and Jr both rats but Jr had money homes a trunking comp a button. Alite had nothing once the coke money dried up. He ran down Tampa and tried bullying people under the gotti flag and it didn't last long. Gotti crushes all alites claims in his book that's about it. Some of the shit alite said on the stand should have had him in a perjury trap but when's the last time the gov did that to one of there own. When the other cop killer calabro going for sentence the papers are gonna have a field day.

Alite is a low level rat who's only fame comes from having known Jr. Everytime I see this prick I want to throw up!

Not if it's selling, he doesn't. There's no such thing as bad publicity in the literary world. And the more that people hate on the book and on Alite, the more money they're putting in George's pockets.

You got a problem with Jews fuckstick?

You got a problem with Jews fuckstick? [/quote

Internet tough guy, watchout

Jews are ok. I don't wanna give the other site a plug here by naming him specifically. I just like to point out the pretend act too. Andrew Dice Clay probably gave him that idea

He's talking about Ed's obsession with Alite I think, it's gotten to the point where it's too much... there's like a dozen different articles about Alite. I know this whole feud is interesting to some but give me a break, it's not like they're out gunning for each other.

Bingo. That guy has such a crush on alite I think they have matching tattoos on their hearts. Plus the writer has such a thing against gotti, it makes me think he wishes he was involved somehow. Maybe he can convince alite to start a crew with him in it and they can fight what's left of the gotti family

Very true. Because if that was the case, Leiber would no longer be writing his column. Because he'd be as dead as his website.

Alite's a murderous, lying rat, and the scum of the earth. But Ed's an academic sissy writing through a phony pseudonym to live a vicarious fantasy where he wasn't the little fag who got his lunch money swiped right through high school.

I lol'd.. yeah I figured you meant him since Alite's Albanian not jewish. Makes me feel bad for being Albanian, this scumbag.. along with Rudaj and the rest of these donkeys.

You're greek, blacsheep? Born in Greece or just Greek-American? I'm guessing the latter.


@PB, I know, man... he makes it out to be almost like the old BIG and Tupac beefs, and even THAT wasn't really that big.

I'm born here but lived quite a few years over there. A few years as a baby and 5 years more recently. I was in albania for a wedding once. I went to sarande and vouliarates.

I swore I wouldn't post on any thread that had to do with Alite or Gottii Jr. but this ED bashing I couldn't pass up lol

whats the reason for being that personal? He's just a human being which tries as best as he can, at least that is what i chose to belive. Don't know if you have in fact other knowledge or reasons to be that personal. I read his blog from time to time, there a few gems. I have enough knowledge to recognize exaggerated things/fantasies..
And whats the deal with his pseudonym? He's a journalist for christs sake, not everybody wants to be affiliated with OC after a quick google.. just my 2 cents

Because he's attacked me on his blog when I called him out for giving Cicale a platform at the EXACT SAME TIME that it was revealed that Cicale was trying to con the Basciano family out of money on the premise that he could get Vinny a mistrial.

I knew about the shakedown six months before the story broke, and there are posters here who can verify that. Do you really think that Ed should have given this scumbag a voice, knowing full well that he was still trying to shake down the Bascianos? Knowing what I just told you about Ed, could you still defend him?

Funny how that didn't make it into Ed's book, huh? But it did come out later in Gangland, a much more reputable source, where Jerry Capeci ripped Ed a new asshole for omitting the shakedown from the book.


Well, having said what I just posted above, and having lived four houses away from Vinny for many years, and having watched his boys grow up with my girls, hopefully now you understand a little bit better the way I feel. And I don't sugarcoat criminality for one minute. You kill people, you belong in jail. But Cicale DRAGGED THE MAN'S EX-WIFE AND CHILDREN into it in his shakedown, and this was WHILE ED WAS WRITING THAT BOOK.


I don't read his malware filled site. But when he breaks his first gem, you be sure to let me know.


It's not that he uses a pseudonym. It's that he constantly lies about being Italian. His real name is Ed Lieber. He's Jewish, and I have nothing but love for the Jews. But he could just have easily picked a Jewish pseudonym. By swearing that he's Italian, (which was torn to threads on another site through a simple Genealogy/Ancestry search), he displays a certain self-hatred that turns me off.


That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Thank you for that. Calling Ed a journalist is like calling Al Sharpton a responsible Black leader.

You've been here a couple of years now, Mickey, and you seem like a nice guy who doesn't look for trouble. I've been here for quite a bit longer and I rarely look for trouble myself. But this is, indeed, VERY personal for me. I hate Dom Cicale, and I loathe Lieber for giving him a voice. I hope they give each other AIDS and fucking die. But for the sake of the board, and out of respect for the mods, I'd rather just let it go. Enjoy your weekend .

PB laid it all out perfect, but just to add my own 2 cents, I have seen PB discussed on that site, and never in a flattering way. Ed and the regulars who comment have spent a good deal of time blasting PB calling him a rat (which we all know is total crap), making him out to be a liar and a fanboy, etc. The guy on the other site throws plenty of jabs at PB. I was kinda shocked when I saw it the first time

It's all one guy, blacksheep. It's that Italian Heritage/Cornuto Contento, who's been bounced from every site and can't get away with badmouthing me anywhere else but with Ed.

At the risk of sounding immodest, the mods on ALL OF THESE SITES bounce him every time his jealousy of my knowledge rears its ugly head. He's sick in the head, and envious of everyone who knows more about the life than he does, which is everyone.

The rest of the people taking potshots at me and at this board are all Ed talking to himself under different usernames.

PB I'm planning on starting the Vinny Gorgeous book... what did you think of it, worth a read or not? Does it have a lot of mistakes? Does it cover most of the basic stuff? Not planning on getting Cicale's book so that's why I'm asking.



I've always suspected that, glad I'm not the only one... now I'm beginning to think you might be right. There's just way too many fanboys. I'm sure he's got a dozen loyal readers but some of them are just over the top, some guy RICO comes to mind along with others.

Ha that italian heritage guy is exactly who it was.. going back and forth with some other jerkoff.

thanks for clearin' all up, and it wasn't meant as a joke - google him and it pops up. good day sir

It's okay, Mal. But nowhere near as good as DeStefano's book about Massino. He spoiled us with that one.

One of my old tenants was interviewed for that book. She worked as a hairdresser for Vinny for years. Still cuts hair in Throggs Neck. Nice gal. She used to post here but got tossed off for being a bit too, um, unobjective about Vinny. You think I'm bad?

And there are certainly some mistakes that I'll run through with you in private after you read it (especially about some regular working people who were falsely labeled associates). So having said that, I guess I'm saying you should read it .

No problem, Mickey. Like I said, you're a quality poster, and I meant that. That's why we have an open and civilized dialogue here .

Unobjective meaning too favorable to him or on the contrary, bashing him?

A question by the way: in the Basciano book Massino never managed to tape an outright confession out of him, he only taped Vinny saying Michael Mancuso okayed the hit. But do you think it was implied Mancuso got an ok from Basciano or did he gave the order on his own?
It's somehow confusing in the quotes: "I didn't do it, do you know what I mean?" which is sometimes interpreted as an allusion to "I did do it, but not with my own hands".

P.S. Could you please later check the PM on the other forum?