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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: TommyGambino] #832840
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino

Ribera social club looks nice!!


No problem Fellas...It really is Tommy, inside and out. They did a nice job on the place.


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832870
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So I read over on Scotts site the guy was locked up for 30 yrs and probably got out last couple yrs he missed the pistone memo the commission trial and the gotti saga. Should have read this site for couple days get hip to the 21 mafia. Where your. OS's wears a wire on you. Sounds like a lot of tough talk this case will probably fall apart cause I bet 100$ that the agent did some real improper shit to get these guys to trust them and they don't want it out there after papa smurf case with the kiddy rapist informant. But there fucked on the coke charges 8 10yrs around. If it was crack probably 20

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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832873
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Yep pmac, you would be correct. probably 8-12 years per sentencing guide lines in the federal system for a powder charge.
Not a whole lot anyone can do, even a good lawyer, when it comes to federal plea deals.

Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832887
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how many times did the fbi go and tell this made guy his life in danger and how come the made guy didn't go to his capo the capo to the boss and say hay the fbi keeps telling joe theres a hit on his life red flags there all in the same family of what 30 40 guys. these guys were plotting his life for 6 months. wonder how far they let the plot almost go threw just to make a case. guess this and the case in boston shaking down joker poker the only thing this far 2015. back in the pre p.c. days the feds loved to make a bust right around or on st pats day cause you know why.

Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832888
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oh I think it only carries 10yrs in the feds for soliciting murder. I remember st laurant down rhode island was asking some wired up guys to murder capo bobby DeLuca. he plead out the judge gave him 7 8 years he was playing the death role hes still alive porbaly gets out in a year. the guy wearing the wire asked if st. had permission cause they didn't wan to kill a made guy with out a ok he said yes. but the could never get anyone else. then DeLuca went on to roll

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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: pmac] #832890
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Since the files are kinda hard to parse, who was Stango trying to kill? Made or no? What reason? Thanks.

Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: BarrettM] #832894
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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Since the files are kinda hard to parse, who was Stango trying to kill? Made or no? What reason? Thanks.


He wanted to kill a made guy of a rival crew out of Elizabeth. The made guy is only identified as "the mutt/the pet". Ironically Stango's problem with the guy he wanted kill came from the guy having an altercation with the undercover FBI agent. And the guy supposedly disrespected the acting boss during a family meeting. And members of the rival elizabeth crew were making fun of stangos son on facebook messages lol. So it came down to that stango was gonna have the undercover agent hire two members of a NE biker gang to kill the guy for 25k each.


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832897
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Really does sound like a episode of sopranos if was still on in 2015. The made fun of aj on Facebook and tony lost it. Rip tony.

Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: Dellacroce] #832900
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Since the files are kinda hard to parse, who was Stango trying to kill? Made or no? What reason? Thanks.


He wanted to kill a made guy of a rival crew out of Elizabeth. The made guy is only identified as "the mutt/the pet". Ironically Stango's problem with the guy he wanted kill came from the guy having an altercation with the undercover FBI agent. And the guy supposedly disrespected the acting boss during a family meeting. And members of the rival elizabeth crew were making fun of stangos son on facebook messages lol. So it came down to that stango was gonna have the undercover agent hire two members of a NE biker gang to kill the guy for 25k each.


What is this I don't even...

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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832901
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Interesting story, incredible stupidity. I'm not a criminal by any means but even I know you don't say shit like that on a phone. In terms of the hit being outsourced, I wonder if that was out of necessity? I mean if the Decavs are under the Gambino's and Stagno wanted someone clipped, how hard could it have been to get a couple of guys from the Gambino's to do it? Or would they have perhaps turned it down and told him to get someone else to do it?

It seems mental to me, it really does. You want another guy clipped, so you go off mouthing about it to an undercover. Why not speak to someone you trust, someone going back years? This undercover is unlikely to have been there for THAT long.

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Originally Posted By: Jimmythepen

It seems mental to me, it really does. You want another guy clipped, so you go off mouthing about it to an undercover. Why not speak to someone you trust, someone going back years? This undercover is unlikely to have been there for THAT long.


The mouthing off part, ridiculous as it is, isn't even the worst of it. The way they wanted the hit to be executed reaches new heights of hilarity. Lmao hiring a couple of bikers to throw around grenades like some coked-out paramilitary lunatics. What year are we in?

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It seems mental to me, it really does. You want another guy clipped, so you go off mouthing about it to an undercover. Why not speak to someone you trust, someone going back years? This undercover is unlikely to have been there for THAT long.


The mouthing off part, ridiculous as it is, isn't even the worst of it. The way they wanted the hit to be executed reaches new heights of hilarity. Lmao hiring a couple of bikers to throw around grenades like some coked-out paramilitary lunatics. What year are we in?


Exactly. It's just crazy. I mean maybe the idea was for bikers to do it so that it didn't look like it came from his crew, but as you say to want to throw grenades around is stupid. And for 25 grand, EACH!

I would have done it for 50 bucks lol

Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832905
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Only an idiot talks on the phone about murder, fool...


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: Jimmythepen] #832906
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Originally Posted By: Jimmythepen
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It seems mental to me, it really does. You want another guy clipped, so you go off mouthing about it to an undercover. Why not speak to someone you trust, someone going back years? This undercover is unlikely to have been there for THAT long.


The mouthing off part, ridiculous as it is, isn't even the worst of it. The way they wanted the hit to be executed reaches new heights of hilarity. Lmao hiring a couple of bikers to throw around grenades like some coked-out paramilitary lunatics. What year are we in?


Exactly. It's just crazy. I mean maybe the idea was for bikers to do it so that it didn't look like it came from his crew, but as you say to want to throw grenades around is stupid. And for 25 grand, EACH!

I would have done it for 50 bucks lol


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: azguy] #832910
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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: njcapo35] #832912
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Nj sick photos my man well done...the pic of Ribera is that like a social club? It looks like a really nice house or like a community center? Seems like that would stick out in Elizabeth


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: BarrettM] #832913
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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
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Since the files are kinda hard to parse, who was Stango trying to kill? Made or no? What reason? Thanks.


He wanted to kill a made guy of a rival crew out of Elizabeth. The made guy is only identified as "the mutt/the pet". Ironically Stango's problem with the guy he wanted kill came from the guy having an altercation with the undercover FBI agent. And the guy supposedly disrespected the acting boss during a family meeting. And members of the rival elizabeth crew were making fun of stangos son on facebook messages lol. So it came down to that stango was gonna have the undercover agent hire two members of a NE biker gang to kill the guy for 25k each.


What is this I don't even...


Dellacroce stalking family members of mobsters on Facebook?


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832914
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It was in the indictment jerkoff, what are you stalking me on the board, grow up kid.


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832915
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I'm just busting chops dude.


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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #832916
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Go fuck your mudda...


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-Jordan Belfort
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*Rimshot*


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What are you still doing here, i thought i told you to go fuck your mudda


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Bah dum tiss.


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Bing pow boom , ...man I wish I was big just once lol


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im retarded and don't know how to post a pic.... but heres a link to the picture.. if someone wants to post it... was curious to see how many people could be identified in the pic... its the members of the ribera club..

http://ripost.it/2014/08/12/il-forte-leg...el-ribera-club/

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Re: Toms River Based Decavalcante Crew Busted [Re: pmac] #832968
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Originally Posted By: pmac
So I read over on Scotts site the guy was locked up for 30 yrs and probably got out last couple yrs he missed the pistone memo the commission trial and the gotti saga. Should have read this site for couple days get hip to the 21 mafia.


If he was away that long, he had to be way behind the times when he got out. I don't know how much they can tell the guys in prison to keep them up to date, the visits and phone calls must be monitored, I would think.

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Here is an article on the bust from The Mob Museum site, with quotes from me.

FBI PLUCKS ALLEGED NEW JERSEY MOBSTER FROM LAS VEGAS AREA HOME


By Launce Rake

Tales of the Mob in Las Vegas typically are seedy stories of yesteryear. But if the FBI is right, they also are stories of the here and now.

An alleged captain in New Jersey’s DeCalvacante crime family is alive and living here. Charles “Beeps” Stango, 71, was arrested this week in Henderson and charged with, among other crimes, murder, pimping and cocaine distribution. Nine alleged associates of Spango, including his son Anthony Stango, 33, were rounded up and charged back in the crime family’s home turf in central New Jersey.

The DeCalvacante family garnered a bit of notoriety a few years ago when a number of people, including law enforcement and crime family members themselves, noticed that its modern history seemed to parallel the fictional history of a crime family on the HBO series The Sopranos. Not coincidentally, The Sopranos also takes place in New Jersey and its creator, David Chase, is from New Jersey.

As with the fictional crime family, the DeCalvacante family struggled to make it to the top ranks of organized crime. Back in the closing years of Prohibition in the early 1930s, Charlie “Lucky” Luciano organized the big five New York crime families into The Commission. The New Jersey mobsters didn’t make the cut. Nonetheless, the organized crime family worked well with its friends across the Hudson River, and shared profits with the Big Five, as well as with Mob families in nearby Philadelphia and other East Coast cities.

Historically, the DeCavalcante family has been associated with the whole range of Mob profit centers: loansharking, illegal gambling, prostitution, construction-industry rackets, labor union infiltration and corruption, drug dealing, murder, theft and extortion. The family’s roots go back to the Prohibition era, but it was Simone DeCavalcante who took over the crime family and put a stop to violent power struggles in the mid-1960s. Born in 1913, he headed the family until he stepped down in 1982, and even elevated the family to The Commission sometime in the 1960s, according to Mob historians.

In recent years the family’s fortunes, like those of other Mob families, have not fared well. Struggles for leadership – with one boss being murdered because of reputed gay relationships – have sapped the family’s strength. The Gambino family of New York, when it was headed by John Gotti, grabbed money and power away from the DeCavalcantes. And between 1999 and 2005, about 60 family members were arrested and 45 imprisoned on various federal and state charges, decimating the leadership.

Charles Stango may have joined other Mob leaders who relocated to the Southwest to get away from the heat of law enforcement and the chill of winter weather. Scott Deitche, a Tampa, Florida-based expert on the Mob, says the Southwest and the Sunshine State seem to be popular destinations for some of the older bosses.

“Palm Springs still has some older guys out there. It was [Los Angeles capo] Jimmy Caci’s stronghold until he died a few years ago,” Deitche says. “Bobby Milano of the L.A. family and Tony ‘Joe Batters’ Accardo from Chicago both lived out there. Joe Bonanno [of New York’s Bonanno family] moved out to Tucson in the late 1960s, and according to many insiders, still wielded tremendous influence in La Cosa Nostra activities well after he ‘retired.’ Many of his close confidants spent a great deal of time out there.”

Deitche says a lot of people assumed the DeCavalcante family was largely an artifact of the past.

“On my end, I think this bust will be surprising to some who wrote this family off,” he says. “The Decavalcantes hit a major setback in the late ’90s, early 2000s when [family leaders] Vinny Palermo, Anthony Rotondo and a few other guys flipped. However, there were rumors that when Frank Guaracci took over the top spot, he beefed up the ranks with some Sicilians. The Decavs always had a significant Sicilian faction.

“Former boss John ‘The Eagle’ Riggi was released from prison in late 2012, but he’s around 90 so I don’t think he’s involved in this case. One other thing I noticed is that there were a number of younger associates – guys in their 30s and 40s. Not something you’d associate with the Decavs, whose made guys definitely tilted toward the Early Bird Special crowd.”

According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Charles Stango, known as “Beeps,” has five felony convictions, including a 1981 conviction for homicide. The more recent murder charge stems from Stango’s alleged order to murder a rival in the prostitution business in New Jersey who insulted the family’s leadership. Federal officials say Stango told an informant to pay two members of a motorcycle gang $25,000 each to kill the rival. Stango appeared Thursday evening before U.S. Magistrate Judge Nancy Koppe in Las Vegas, and Koppe ordered him held in jail pending his transfer to New Jersey.

Reports indicated that Stango received permission for the hit on the rival from the DeCavalcante consigliere, or top adviser, Frank Nigro, who is 72 and living in New Jersey. Nigro was one of those arrested Thursday.

In a written statement, Federal officials said the busts show that the Mafia is far from done.

“Though its ranks have been thinned by countless convictions and its own internal bloodletting, traditional organized crime remains a real problem,” said U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman in New Jersey. “As today’s complaint shows, members and associates of a long-standing organized crime family continue to ply their illegal trade, selling dangerous drugs and illegal cigarettes, promoting prostitution and threatening internal scores with violence and death.”

But the most recent arrests will hurt, said Richard Frankel of the FBI in Newark, New Jersey. “This is a severe blow to the La Cosa Nostra family,” he said.

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Very good article but a little confused as to why the DeCavs always think the Soprano's are based off of them. Didn't we clear that up. Richie the Boot Boiardo and Tony Boy among others are who the show is based on. The Luciano/Genovese crew was running north Jersey. Jersey ppl just know this but others are misinformed.

Other than that + 50 on the informative article. Thnx.

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Ok. After reading the 3 pages...

Phone calls are stupidity staring you in the face. I doubt that's happened unless the person using the phone was also using the coke, lol. It was a joke! (Kinda). Stupid doesn't last long, hence the bust. Second, hahaha@hiring out the bikers. W. T. F. That wouldn't happen under the Gambinos and if this family is umbrellaed under them, it prolly wasn't sanctioned.

My gut reaction is the Feds played/manipulated both sides to get what they wanted. I don't trust them. I've experienced my share of trying to get what they want and putting my damn life on hold. Fuckers. Sorry, that was my anger showing. Rant over about the gov't. Enjoy your Sunday.

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Originally Posted By: Girlie
That wouldn't happen under the Gambinos and if this family is umbrellaed under them, it prolly wasn't sanctioned.

Yeah, because the Gambinos didn't give us Sammy Gravano and almost induct a Cuban FBI agent. Give me a break. There's stupidity everywhere.

Originally Posted By: Girlie
My gut reaction is the Feds played/manipulated both sides to get what they wanted. I don't trust them. I've experienced my share of trying to get what they want and putting my damn life on hold. Fuckers. Sorry, that was my anger showing. Rant over about the gov't. Enjoy your Sunday.

I agree that the Government doesn't play fair. They stack the deck in their favor to win. But if you're not threatening to blow people up with grenades and biker gangs, they probably won't go out of their way to frame you wink.


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