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When Sammy gets out... #829873
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Can he take a stroll along Mulberry st, have a sip of espresso (we know this isn't a mob stronghold anymore), move in with Karen & film some mob wives (going away that long a time has severely affected his income, infact he wasn't doing great when he went in with the lawsuits by victim families & legit business drying up once his name was exposed, & obviously the drug pipeline has dried up). So he can make do with a few guest appearances on mob wives. Maybe eddie the tall guy won't be too happy & they can film some heated exchanges over the phone seeing tall guy is inside.

All the guys he hurt are either dead or in jail, & even if they were on the streets, we all know the mob isn't what it once was. What's done is done, whacking Sammy would potentially send u away for a very long time.

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He'll be free to go where he pleases. Trust me. I doubt he goes anywhere though, he's got a bad disease, which I think may be similar to ALS. His condition has only gotten worse in the can.

Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829893
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Who knows with this asshole Sammy. I believe he gets out sometime around 2019 or so. He is on supervised release for the rest of his life.
I think his diseases he has will kill him not long after he gets out or even right before.
There gonna try to pin more murders on him I think when his time comes to a close. I just can't see them wanting him to go free after the embarrassment he was to the government.


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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: PhillyMob] #829895
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Originally Posted By: PhillyMob
Who knows with this asshole Sammy. I believe he gets out sometime around 2019 or so. He is on supervised release for the rest of his life.
I think his diseases he has will kill him not long after he gets out or even right before.
There gonna try to pin more murders on him I think when his time comes to a close. I just can't see them wanting him to go free after the embarrassment he was to the government.


This is what i been wondering if they pin those murders on him .Then someone is going to prove that what Casso(or is his word mud) said is the truth about Sammy and the FBI.
In turn will they overturn all the false convictions or half false ones .


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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829900
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I would want to see him write the obligatory mob rat update book. He probably won't because they'll snatch all the proceeds away from him in a second. But it would be interesting to delve into the mind of a guy like that. All the shit he's been through and done.

Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: RedBullets] #829923
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Yup especially if more murders get pinned on him. I can't see how they can allow him to prosper from the deaths of others. These next set of families would take any future earnings from it. Just like what happened the first time.

Now I know Karen gravano has a book out. I remember reading family members of the victims were upset about her getting money from that. Was she ever brought to court over that or is there no fight there because she didn't commit the crimes ?


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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: PhillyMob] #829926
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Originally Posted By: PhillyMob
Yup especially if more murders get pinned on him. I can't see how they can allow him to prosper from the deaths of others. These next set of families would take any future earnings from it. Just like what happened the first time.

Now I know Karen gravano has a book out. I remember reading family members of the victims were upset about her getting money from that. Was she ever brought to court over that or is there no fight there because she didn't commit the crimes ?


I agree, even though it is in bad taste. She is not him and should be able to write about it .If you think she is a victim also.I could only imagine the pain she has been through on his account.


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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829938
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He's a lowlife and got what he deserved. They're all lowlifes, but he's extra low scum.

Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: SinatraClub] #829940
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
He'll be free to go where he pleases. Trust me. I doubt he goes anywhere though, he's got a bad disease, which I think may be similar to ALS. His condition has only gotten worse in the can.


ALS is a horrible disease, I watched my uncle die from it. I don't wish death on many people but Sammy really deserves it.

Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829941
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from what I rad hes got chrones and its not that serious if you take care of yaself. and being in jail that's all you can do to make it out one day. hes not gonna do shit. if he has any money left make he moves upsate. but he sons and guesiin ghis wife are planted in Arizona for the last 20+ yrs so why whould a old guy try to move back to cold ny. yaek Karen your dads gonna try to get his shy book back yaehh. the mob wives show jumped the shark couple years back when jr was wereing the wire. it probably wont be picked up for another season. big ang bar closed down so I bet drita and the rest shops clos soon they'll make up some excuse like I was to busy blah blah.

Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829942
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Yes serp if you want to get technical Karen is a victim as well. To the degree that she and her family missed out on time with her father.
If I was her I would probably right about my life too. But it's tragic that the paycheck comes from talking about the death of others.
Sammy is scum and he deserves everything that is happening to him.

The only way he should be able to make money is by a regular job. But the question is can he survive in a normal life?


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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Serpiente] #829965
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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Originally Posted By: PhillyMob
Who knows with this asshole Sammy. I believe he gets out sometime around 2019 or so. He is on supervised release for the rest of his life.
I think his diseases he has will kill him not long after he gets out or even right before.
There gonna try to pin more murders on him I think when his time comes to a close. I just can't see them wanting him to go free after the embarrassment he was to the government.


This is what i been wondering if they pin those murders on him .Then someone is going to prove that what Casso(or is his word mud) said is the truth about Sammy and the FBI.
In turn will they overturn all the false convictions or half false ones .


I wouldn't count on that if I were you. The FBi isn't so much interested in protecting Sammy as much as they are interested in protecting the FBI.


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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829968
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That's what I'm saying alpha I don't think their trying to protect him I think they want to nail him again for the embarrassment he caused the government.


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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829973
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i can't have any amount of sympathy for Sammy gravano, one of the biggest snitches in mob history. and he is no less than a murdering dog with absolutely no remorse.

if he gets out, if he's not killed, then the mob will be seen as a joke.



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Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829975
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Can you imagine how big of a story that would be if they killed him? No way, will never happen. He'll probably die in jail anyway.

Re: When Sammy gets out... [Re: Tonytough] #829979
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How can any of you call Karen Gravano a victim ?? she was out in AZ dealing drugs with the rest of her family- she chose that vocation so she gets no sympathy from me. Also I think people are getting tired of Mob wives so maybe it will get cancelled

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Originally Posted By: bigboy
How can any of you call Karen Gravano a victim ?? she was out in AZ dealing drugs with the rest of her family- she chose that vocation so she gets no sympathy from me. Also I think people are getting tired of Mob wives so maybe it will get cancelled


Big boy I'm talking about the Gambino era not the Arizona time frame. Yes Karen Gerard and the mother were all guilty of the xtc ring. I meant when the kids were younger when Sammy did his 5 years or so for the 19 murders.
I'm saying as children they lost out on time with their loser father.


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Gravano have the Graves' disease that is an autoimmune disease. It most commonly affects the thyroid, frequently causing it to enlarge to twice its size or more (goitre), become overactive, with related hyperthyroid symptoms such as increased heartbeat, muscle weakness, disturbed sleep, and irritability. It can also affect the eyes, causing bulging eyes (exophthalmos). It affects other systems of the body, including the skin, heart, circulation and nervous system;while ALS is a terrible disease that leaves no way.

However I think that if he don't die before Gravano will be released in 2019 at 74 years, and I think he can go where he want, but must be careful that any asshole doesn't try to kill him to boast of having killed the king of the rats or a wannabe in NY whack him for became a gambinos associate or to be made.

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Nobody will touch him.

Why would they?
The current admin HATE the Gotti's and couldn't care less about revenge. And the heat it'd bring to the family? They wouldn't give the guy who clipped him a button, they'd give him two behind the ear.


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MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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sonny I talk of a group of wannabe that is drinking an espresso at a bar in New York, Joe the dago tells to frankie the wop: What a fuck, fellas is sammy gravano the rat that fucked john gotti
frankie: you're right, kill that son of a bitch and bring his head to the Gambinos.
Leaving the bar, Gravano was killed by two men in balaclavas.
End of the story.

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Gravano when he was still in witness protection showed up at the feast of Santa Rosalia on 18 ave here in Brooklyn. He left it still alive.


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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Nobody will touch him.

Why would they?
The current admin HATE the Gotti's and couldn't care less about revenge. And the heat it'd bring to the family? They wouldn't give the guy who clipped him a button, they'd give him two behind the ear.



The Gotti's aren't the only people Sammy hurt. But yes, nobody will touch him
for the obvious reasons

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Gravano when he was still in witness protection showed up at the feast of Santa Rosalia on 18 ave here in Brooklyn. He left it still alive.


Quote:
The Gotti's aren't the only people Sammy hurt. But yes, nobody will touch him for the obvious reasons


I bet that on out of jail Gravano won't have the ball to come back in NY.

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Originally Posted By: PhillyMob
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How can any of you call Karen Gravano a victim ?? she was out in AZ dealing drugs with the rest of her family- she chose that vocation so she gets no sympathy from me. Also I think people are getting tired of Mob wives so maybe it will get cancelled


Big boy I'm talking about the Gambino era not the Arizona time frame. Yes Karen Gerard and the mother were all guilty of the xtc ring. I meant when the kids were younger when Sammy did his 5 years or so for the 19 murders.
I'm saying as children they lost out on time with their loser father.
OK Philly- got you- point well taken.

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Originally Posted By: PhillyMob
Yes serp if you want to get technical Karen is a victim as well. To the degree that she and her family missed out on time with her father.
If I was her I would probably right about my life too. But it's tragic that the paycheck comes from talking about the death of others.
Sammy is scum and he deserves everything that is happening to him.

The only way he should be able to make money is by a regular job. But the question is can he survive in a normal life?


Karen & Gerard were no saints. They were firmly involved in crime and drug dealing when they went into witness protection with their father.

And if my father was a serial killing criminal, I would still love him but it would go against all my beliefs to profit from it.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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i think he gets out in 2016/2017 according to karen g

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I'm surprised there not gonna make him do the full 20 years.


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If you go to the Arizona DOC site it says Sammy's release date is 06/07/2016. I'm not sure though about his fed time, but i think it's the same.

https://corrections.az.gov/public-resources/inmate-datasearch

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