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For the sins of my father
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02/16/15 12:30 PM
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Was wondering if anyone read this book yet.
For the sins of my father by Albert DeMeo.
Was either gonna start reading that or The enforcer about Tony Spilotro.
But I was curious about the Albert DeMeo book. Just because it's a family member and not the gangster. So wasn't sure how much action was really in the book.
I also have mob boss by al D'Arco. Any info on that would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Re: For the sins of my father
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I like the book. I've mentioned it before in other threads and the Mafia books thread. It's got some interesting bits and pieces and it's based on someone else's POV for a change, we all know how believable Montiglio really is. I'd give it a 3.5/5 at least.
It's basically what you expect, things are from Albert's point of view and Roy is portrayed as a family man. You should know Albert, even though a teen, was involved in a couple of things with Roy and helped him out quite a bit. Nothing really big, but collections, pickups, bringing him guns, delivering messages, etc.
Roy was killed on Albert's 17th birthday I think, the police knocked just when he was blowing his candles.
I thought the book was realistic and it left you feeling sorry for Albert. I believe he really did suffer a lot because of his father's name, mostly by the feds relentless prosecutions and hardon for him, wanting him to flip and testify against the rest of the crew.
You can tell he really loved his dad though. He claims Roy was a good family man and a great father when he was with Albert.
One of the biggest shocks to Albert was when Murder Machine came out, who he claims was exaggerated and not very accurate because it was based on Montiglio's version. He doesn't make no excuses though, he never claims his father was innocent.
I haven't read D'Arco's book.. I'm waiting for it to arrive, along with Murder Machine, Gotti's Rules, and a few others.
-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
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Re: For the sins of my father
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02/16/15 06:24 PM
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I like the book. I've mentioned it before in other threads and the Mafia books thread. It's got some interesting bits and pieces and it's based on someone else's POV for a change, we all know how believable Montiglio really is. I'd give it a 3.5/5 at least.
It's basically what you expect, things are from Albert's point of view and Roy is portrayed as a family man. You should know Albert, even though a teen, was involved in a couple of things with Roy and helped him out quite a bit. Nothing really big, but collections, pickups, bringing him guns, delivering messages, etc.
Roy was killed on Albert's 17th birthday I think, the police knocked just when he was blowing his candles.
I thought the book was realistic and it left you feeling sorry for Albert. I believe he really did suffer a lot because of his father's name, mostly by the feds relentless prosecutions and hardon for him, wanting him to flip and testify against the rest of the crew.
You can tell he really loved his dad though. He claims Roy was a good family man and a great father when he was with Albert.
One of the biggest shocks to Albert was when Murder Machine came out, who he claims was exaggerated and not very accurate because it was based on Montiglio's version. He doesn't make no excuses though, he never claims his father was innocent.
I haven't read D'Arco's book.. I'm waiting for it to arrive, along with Murder Machine, Gotti's Rules, and a few others. I thought murder machine was very good. That's what made me get Albert DeMeo book. I wanted to see the other side of Roy DeMeo. It's good to hear different sides of the story ya know. But definitely the most in depth book about the DeMeo crew and niño Gaggi. I started reading mob boss. Not bad so far.
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Re: For the sins of my father
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02/19/15 03:11 PM
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Cool thank you for the responses guys. Much appreciated.
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Re: For the sins of my father
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I'm half way through the book right now and I must say I'm much more fascinated with Albert's story then I thought I would.
Funny stuff with what Roy did for al on his birthday with the hooker at the horse stalls.
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Re: For the sins of my father
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I'm half way through the book right now and I must say I'm much more fascinated with Albert's story then I thought I would.
Funny stuff with what Roy did for al on his birthday with the hooker at the horse stalls.
Yeah albert lived a very different life. On one hand Roy didnt want Albert involved yet on the other he was teaching how the best way to shoot/kill someone. What i liked about that book it was very honest. Even though Albert idolized his father he didnt sugarcoat the bad things his father did Yes I must agree. He tells it how it is and doesn't make excuses. It amazes me how much Roy was using Albert for his go betweens with the loansharking money at such a young age. I would say it amazes me that a father would put his kid in those situations with criminal activity but look at everything Roy did. That was the least of his issues. Good book so far. I definitely recommend it for those who like murder machine and anything with the DeMeo crew.
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Re: For the sins of my father
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02/27/15 06:43 PM
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Just finished the book. Awesome read. Can't believe how much shot Albert went through even after his fathers death. Just about his previous criminal career and what the government thought Albert knew. Better book then I thought it was gonna be though.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: For the sins of my father
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02/27/15 07:01 PM
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Just finished the book. Awesome read. Can't believe how much shot Albert went through even after his fathers death. Just about his previous criminal career and what the government thought Albert knew. Better book then I thought it was gonna be though. I agree, good book, this and The Butcher were really good reads.
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Re: For the sins of my father
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02/28/15 03:26 AM
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Yea butcher was a good book. Carlo didn't live next door to Pitera so he wasn't trying to have his love child.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: For the sins of my father
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02/28/15 06:52 AM
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Just got Murder Machine, I've been wanting to read it for so long now. It's kind of a big deal to me because I live somewhere in Europe where these books about wiseguys are very difficult to find.
The Pitera book was alright, but most of it felt like fiction... he never interviewed Pitera. He only met Gangi ONCE and took a photo. The rest of the info came from the DEA guy and a bunch of old articles, yet the way he writes it's as if Carlo himself was there when things happened. Regardless I liked the whole chase in the book, the cat and mouse game of the determined DEA and the elusive and paranoid Pitera.
-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
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Re: For the sins of my father
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02/28/15 03:13 PM
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Personally i liked sins of my father more than murder machine. I think I did to pal. But I must say that I think each book kind of completed each other. If you read one I think you should definetly read the other.
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Re: For the sins of my father
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Yea he definetly had a nice chunk of money. Albert was still taking him and his friends on limo rides with hookers and spending like it was no tomorrow. I think a good while after he died.
I know Roy had legitimate interests that were still good when he died. But Albert was brought into the finances of the family at a young age. So he pretty much knew the ropes when he was older.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: For the sins of my father
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Albert was almost ruined financially I think. He implies he spent a lot of it on his escapades and friends after his father died and then the court troubles, the stupid marriage and divorce, she probably took him to the cleaners. I don't think he's got more than 20-30% of the original sum that Roy left him.
-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
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Re: For the sins of my father
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03/02/15 03:18 AM
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Yea im sure Roy had a nice stash for him though. But I'm sure Albert blew through that.
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