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Patriarca's #828838
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Ravaged....decimated etc etc....but how many made guys do they actually have left?

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Around 30 there just keep making guys around Boston forever. Guess there only about 12 down Rhode island baby shacks wasn't making guys a lot. But once big cheese bro took over he probably let a few in. Rhode island Staten island east. Bobby deluca went into witsec summer 2010 so hasn't been any informants since.

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there is a 2011 chart,I'll try to find an updated version.


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Thank you gents....so they still make people on a regular basis. No danger of going under any time soon then.

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Around 40-50 made members, not sure how many are active. Feds think only a handful are active in Providence.Boston is where the power is now.

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http://mafiamembershipcharts.blogspot.it/search/label/New%20England


Limone Peter Boston boss ?
DiNunzio-Carmen Big Cheese b.1957- Acting Boss

Capos

Achille-Joseph The Bishop b.1936- Prov.,R.I.
Carozza-Robert Bobby Russo b.1940-
DelSanto-William Billy Black b.1943- Prov. R.I.
DiNunzio-Anthony b.1958 N.Boston
Guglielmetti-Matt Jnr. Good-looking Matt b.1948 Prov.,R.I.
Quintina-Pryce 1940- Capo Revere
Parillo-Anthony Capo Prov. RI

Soldiers

Angelesco-William b.1971 Boston
Ascenzia-Anthony The Beaver b.1960 Connect.
Barone-Pasquale Patsy b.1961 Prov. R.I.
Bonfiglia-Richard b.1954 Prov. R.I.
Bufalino-Darin b.1961
Capasso-Dennis JJ. Coliseum b.1958 Prov. R.I.
Capone-Vincent Boston
Carlo-Anthony Chuckie
Carozza-Robert Bobby Russo 1940-
Cincotti-John 1939 Boston
Colantoni-Frank*
Costa-Gregory Fat Boy 1970- Boston
Cucinotta-Antonino Nino
D'Aquila-Salvatore Butch 1941- Connect.
DeLuca-Robert Buddy 1946- U/B Prov. R.I.
DiNunzio-Louis b.1987- ? Sol
Federico-Vincent Vinny Fed 1959- Medford
Folco-Rocco Rocky 1947- Prov. R.I.
Frisoli-Michael
Galea-Pasquale 1942- Prov. R.I.
Gambale-Richard The Pig 1942- Malden
Gioacchini-Vincent Dee Dee 1952- Boston
Grasso-Mariano Mario 1950- Connect.
Imbruglia-Frank 1931- Boston
LePore-Dennis Champagne 1946 Boston
Limone-Frank Boston
Mannocchio-Louis Baby Shanks 1927- Prov. R.I.
Marfeo-Blaize 1941- Prov.,R.I.
Marino-Vincent* Gigi Portala Sol 1990-
Martorano-James* 1945-
Milano-Gaetano Costello 1951- Springfield
Paterno-Joseph 1962- Paterno-Joseph Jnr.Prov. R.I.
Pingaro-Joseph Junior 1956- Boston
Proccillo-Michael 1970-
Rizzo-Anthony 1963- Boston
Rosetti-Stephen b.1959-
Ruggiero-Joseph 1949- Prov. R.I.
Salemme-Frank Jnr.
Scivola-Alfred Chippy 1941- Prov.,R.I./ Connect.
Scudieri-John
Simone-Alfred Neighbour 1950- Boston
Simonelli-G Hartford, Connect.
Spagnolo-Anthony Spucky 1942-Capo 1990- Boston
Tortora-Carmen 1947- Boston
Vitello-John 1947-

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The reason I think they won't be gone any time soon they got 3 states to recruit from that's a big pool. A lot of these guys are up there in age but there kids and grandkids don't fall far from the tree. I couldn't guess why shacks in r.I. didn't make a lot of guys he has the state to himself. And half of its Italian. But up Boston they made a lot of guys. And I think they keep it really fast and quiet cause there the first family to get there.induction bugged that 25 yrs ago.around were I live there was like 15+ made guys in the 60-80tys. All the grandkids have legit companies from there gpops money days. There's that FBI narcotic book there was a lot guys in the Worcester/providence drug trade.

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Chart is way off. No way Providence have 4 captains, more like 1. Boston probably have 3 or 4 though.

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Marino-Vincent* Gigi Portala.....born 1990...makes him 25....really young for a soldier that.

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Originally Posted By: mike89
Marino-Vincent* Gigi Portala.....born 1990...makes him 25....really young for a soldier that.


That's when he was made I think. He's 53 years old.

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i find this family interesting because they're not centralized in one city, but spread out throught 2-3 states. since Manocchio got taken down the "power" has been in Boston; the DiNunzio brothers (also locked up now), rumors of Peter Limone, and Spagnolo being labeled as Acting Boss in his recent indictment.

Scott Bernstein, who had been more than credible as a mob reporter, posted an article on his Gangster Report site that speculates that the orders could be coming back from Providence now.
http://gangsterreport.com/patriarcas-parillo-line-top-spot/

Carmen DiNunzio is coming out of jail soon. My guess is that to unify and stengthhen whatever is left of the family, they'll split the admin between RI and MA with guys on the street in official spots.

as far as younger guys and making new members, i posted this on another board... but i doubt they are lacking for recruits. sure kids dont grow up in the little italy of boston or on atwells avenue anymore and come up like the old timers did, but there are plenty of italian kids trying to make money the fast way, into drugs, steroids, scams, bookmaking...that would love to be made. you can say that about any city in the northeast. there are always tons of kids like that. maybe the quality isnt there compared to how the old timers were raise, but the quantity ...

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Ah ok, thought was a bit far off

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Carmen cheese gets out todayi think the 17. Gonna get trapped in the snow storm coming up the coast. I mean r.I. 1 million. People half's Italian or Portuguese which muddy up the blood lines and that place gives Chicago a run for corruption . maybe 2 capos in the state tons of wanna bes. And like I said baby shacks wasn't giving out buttons like when frank salemmi took over Boston made a lot of guys to be loyal to him against Joe Russo's left overs. NYC Massimo inducted everyone's kids others then ray Jr and anther pop son that's it I think . lotta construction and tow companies don't need that around fucks up contracts from state city

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As I've said many times, Manocchio made plenty of RI and Boston guys during his 15 years at the head of table, he took it personally to use his tenor as a rebuilding period. To think a guys that had a pretty quiet and unobstructed 15 year run would let the family die is plain silly. He was very tight with Ray Sr. and understood the place the family holds in LCN history.

The younger guys lay real low and have both legit and illegal business and many of them have never been identified in public.

It's one reason why DeLuca's flip and he really hasn't been used freaks so many out he knew all the players in both states and never testified against Whitey, the Cheese or his brother.

They flipped him for a reason and everyone is curious as to why...


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Think they had deluca caught dead to rights on the extortion. They new the strip clubs pay but couldn't get close anuff . wired up deluca. Everyone plead out he gets a free pass then life for his 3rd strike like his last co de that French guy qumette.

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first off, love the fact we are talking patrairca ...I always said this but rhode island has alot more than people think, I mentioned before the names, There are milisi, leone, ruggerio, brusselli,simonelli sawtelli and more that people never heard of. Second boston is quite different. tt120 said it right they might not grow up in north end or providence but there is many italians in medford, revere, saugus, everett, and the whole north shore of boston since many of the north enders moved to those areas and the same can be said for providence as they spread around the state and the nicer areas of providence.
As far as rats go I know for sure that the young and the old mix but they dont. For example simone, spagnolo, ferrara, biago , quintina, gambale and even martorano to an extent, really dont deal with the younger guys for a few reasons but mainly the drugs. The other is to keep the "structure" tight. If deluca snd rossetti didnt fold, it be hard to say anything because beside a few informants whom we dont know, what are they giving up. I mean even do defend rosseti, he didnt give up any bodies or new schemes. I mean what indictment came out of him. Deluca gave up the dinunzio and mannochio strip club schemes. So to say the least, the informants is not really informing. But new buttons has been made because thats what I heard the last few months.


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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looks like boston might be one of the strongest families in the country, so much for the mob being taken down.

sounds like they are coming back strong as ever.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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I think rhode island is at least 20 25 man strong. you have that fuchillio kid the kids I mentioned and few more like bonagfilia and trimanti and thats not counting the old timers. I know many providence guys came up one time like 15 or so for st anthonys and through a few mutual old timers no one knew who was who and it said most of the providene guys was all button. As for Boston they are adding up. From Buffalino, to prochilio, to the dinunzio kid, to nazzarro they are adding besides the ones we havent heard. Gigi was never made. No one in that war was made . They had a bunch of connected guys the whole war was connected to the life but made many was a far cry to many drugs was involved instead of the traditional schemes and if you did dabble in drugs like angelesco, you did around the traditional schemes not make drugs a primary income like the a domonican drug lord. Dinunzio dealt with the costas and gambale which in turned dealt with other made guys but he trusted them. The same goes for quintina and spagnolo whom deals with few other guys and in turn tell their peers. Bobby Carrozza deals with his boys and many younger guys and although is made and somewhat and upper guy he has his own regime of bunch of non made guys like the ones who supported him during the war. But I know him and ferrara are still tight. IMO the board is Limone, Biago and Ferrara....Then they give orders to spag, quintuna, vito deluca, martorano, whom holds alot of weight fyi, and few other guys who are upper who in turn to their trusted ones and so on. So basically there is protection and alot of secrecy amongst eachother. If you notice the past few indictments, its very few indivisuals and that saids alot. Its either you catch me doing my dirt or not and even if you was involved getting a piece if you didnt get caught your scott free like the spagnola case recently. im sure there where kick up and few other people collecting the doe but if you didnt get caught your ok.. its a smart strategy. The only soldiers whi I believe gets really involved with the higher ups is simone, dee dee lepore and tortora and thats because they are proven...


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
looks like boston might be one of the strongest families in the country, so much for the mob being taken down.

sounds like they are coming back strong as ever.


lol

Stop living in dream land, they're losing power by the year.

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Originally Posted By: mike89
Marino-Vincent* Gigi Portala.....born 1990...makes him 25....really young for a soldier that.


sorry mike in the blog there the dob and the activity time,maybe when was made.My bad.

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I know quite a few people from Boston and they seem to have an idea that OC is a lot more prevalent than fbi stats would indicate. I'm always hearing about the crowds of wiseguys and wannabes in the north end and the irish crews and Asian gangs all over. I wonder if they just have a picture of older boston in their heads or is the family growing more than fbi reports say


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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
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looks like boston might be one of the strongest families in the country, so much for the mob being taken down.

sounds like they are coming back strong as ever.


lol

Stop living in dream land, they're losing power by the year.


Like a guy in England would know a cannon from a canoli


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Originally Posted By: blacksheep
I know quite a few people from Boston and they seem to have an idea that OC is a lot more prevalent than fbi stats would indicate. I'm always hearing about the crowds of wiseguys and wannabes in the north end and the irish crews and Asian gangs all over. I wonder if they just have a picture of older boston in their heads or is the family growing more than fbi reports say


Like I said, there are waaay more young guys around than people know about or the FBI admits.

There are two fractions, the old timers and the new guys. It's one reason Cheese and his brother were/are so important, they bridge that gap even though the old and new guys have little business interests together.

I have friends and few family members that are out an about guys and there are plenty of guys that take numbers, sell drugs and run scams on the Northshore, Southshore and and from New Bedford to Providence.

The days of hanging on the "Hill" and in the "North End" are long gone. I grew up SW of Boston about 15 miles and know for sure of one made guy there that owns a couple of semi-dumpy bars and runs football cards during the fall. His father was "connected" and now he is and I doubt anyone would ever mention his name.


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The people I know are involved in club promotion and are generally big in the nightlife out there on a personal and business level. So when they say they see the guys hanging in the north end, I don't think they mean sitting outside in track suits sipping coffee. Again, I don't know how true it is since personal friends conflict so much with official stats but they sure as hell don't think there's only 20 or 30 guys running new england


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While we're on a boston topic, how did the mob do in Boston during the big dig? With so much money out there for that project they must have been dying to get involved


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Originally Posted By: azguy
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looks like boston might be one of the strongest families in the country, so much for the mob being taken down.

sounds like they are coming back strong as ever.


lol

Stop living in dream land, they're losing power by the year.


Like a guy in England would know a cannon from a canoli


Where are you from? It's common knowledge that The Patriarca family aren't 'stronger then ever' you utter spastic.

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looks like boston might be one of the strongest families in the country, so much for the mob being taken down.

sounds like they are coming back strong as ever.


lol

Stop living in dream land, they're losing power by the year.


Like a guy in England would know a cannon from a canoli


Where are you from? It's common knowledge that The Patriarca family aren't 'stronger then ever' you utter spastic.



What's an utter spastic?

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Where you been Joey?

I have no idea what state of the Boston mob is. Law enforcement and the media will have you believe that there isn't much left of it. But where there's smoke there's fire, and it sounds like a lot of you who know Boston seem to think that there is more out there than people realize. But Joe, I always thought Biagio DiGiacomo was done with the life and focused on the restaraunt in Waltham (which does a great business). I'm not so sure about that one. And the vets like Vinny were keeping to themselves, didn't want the aggravation that the top seat caused.

Also, I think that Peter Limone's five year probation is up later this year. The day after he pled out five years ago, the government handed over over $20 million dollars to he and his family. I wouldn't come back to that life with that kind of money.

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looks like boston might be one of the strongest families in the country, so much for the mob being taken down.

sounds like they are coming back strong as ever.


lol

Stop living in dream land, they're losing power by the year.


Like a guy in England would know a cannon from a canoli


Where are you from? It's common knowledge that The Patriarca family aren't 'stronger then ever' you utter spastic.

rolleyes

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