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Re: Augie-Yale Territory
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01/25/15 12:50 PM
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After Yale was clipped who took over his men and his Brooklyn territory? Alfanos girl i am not too sure but i think it was the Colombos,acctually to be clear Joe Profaci.There were a lot of old time mobsters that came from Sicily and settled in Bensonhurst.Yale lived on 14th ave,and had a funeral parlor across the street.So joe profaci moved in on it,am just talking about that part of Booklyn.Dont know what happened to other parts of his territory.Colombos were always brooklyn based,Dyker heights,Bhurst and the waterfront,Red hook,Carrol Gardens etc.Sonny Franzese was from and had a crew up in Billyburg and Greenpoint.
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Re: Augie-Yale Territory
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01/25/15 02:57 PM
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Faithful1
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Hey Alfanosgirl,
Bill Bonanno, who got the info from his father, said that Yale had a very large crew, implied that Masseria (his boss) saw him as a threat and took him out, then his crew was split between several Families. If it was split it was between Masseria and Mineo since Profaci was not yet a boss. Remember though, Joe Bonanno was not yet a made member himself when Yale was killed, so he had to have been told this by others. This info came from "The Last Testament of Bill Bonanno." I was also in contact with Bill before he died, but he kept this info for himself for the book. Probably could have clarified some things had we been able to discuss it, but that's the way it goes sometimes.
Also, we only can confirm a small number of names who were actually under Yale as part of his crew. His top lieutenant was Anthony Carfano (AKA Little Augie Pisano), who became the capo of the crew after Yale was killed. According to a relative of Carfano, he helped set up Yale to be killed. The actual killers were people from Al Capone's crew in Chicago, including some of the "American Boys."
In Tony Scaduto's book on Lucky Luciano, he had a source who told him that Yale was doing bootlegging with Salvatore Maranzano, had some sort of arrangement; Maranzano was not yet fighting against Masseria, so even if this is true it would have been irrelevant. Capone biographers claim that Yale was hijacking trucks destined for Chicago and that Capone was angry at Yale for killing his friend, Jimmy D'Amato, in 1927. Yale was killed almost a year to the day that D'Amato was killed, but that could have been a coincidence. After all is said and done we have a few facts and lots of speculation.
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Re: Augie-Yale Territory
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01/26/15 12:59 AM
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Alfanosgirl:
What I've discovered and concluded about Mineo is that he became a boss around the same time D'Aquila did, around 1912. Both Mineo and D'Aquila came from Palermo, but did not get along. Mineo's territory corresponds to the Profacis and there are other indicators that lead me to conclude that Mineo was the first boss of the Profaci Family. Then in 1928 Mineo and Masseria conspired to kill D'Aquila. There were probably some insiders too that helped. When D'Aquila was killed in October, Mineo became the boss of his family and arranged for Salvatore DiBella to head his old Family, but still Mineo had the final word. What Masseria got out of this is that he replaced D'Aquila as Boss of Bosses.
D'Amato was already living in Brooklyn. Capone didn't place him there, but was probably friendly with him. Some claim that D'Amato was a spy for Capone. Maybe he was or maybe he wasn't.
Carfano was under Yale, then moved up when Yale was killed. With Adonis it's a guess that he was under Yale, but we don't know for certain. We really don't know much about Adonis in the 1920s, but he reportedly became a capo so that means that he and Carfano were equals. They were both under Masseria, then Luciano and Costello. Mineo's original Family became the Profacis and his second became the Gambinos.
Yes, it would have been great if Bill B. had opened up more, we probably could have gotten more answers, but that's how it goes.
Binnie: I highly recommend Alex's book. If you look in the acknowledgements you'll see my name as someone who helped. (This doesn't mean I'm taking credit for his work, only that I helped, nothing more and nothing less.)
BarrettM: There is physical evidence and statements that confirm that Capone's people carried out Yale's hit. There's nothing unusual for a boss to call on the capo of one crew to kill the capo of another. They were both under Masseria under that time. Masseria had Yale killed just like Genovese had Carfano killed 30 years later.
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Re: Augie-Yale Territory
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01/26/15 03:48 PM
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@Faithful. Of course, I agree with you. What I'm saying is the common narrative among non-mob watchers (and some mob watchers) is that Capone killed Yale unsanctioned, under Masseria's nose.
Thanks for the info about Salvatore Dibella! So the Profaci lineage went Mineo > Dibella >Profaci? I knew about Dibella. Not Mineo. Very interesting
Last edited by BarrettM; 01/26/15 03:49 PM.
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