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Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Moe_Tilden] #824104
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Junior Gotti is a brainless thug and lowlife piece of shit. He stabbed a kid to death in a petty bar fight. He started a fight with an off duty officer in a bar (backed up by his fellow knuckledraggers of course). There are plenty of stories about him starting fights in dive bars. There are plenty of stories about his infamous stupidity. He tried to assassinate Curtis Sliwa for God's sake!!!! Someone who actually contributes to society and tries to make the streets safer for normal people.

It's fair to say Gotti wouldn't have got made were it not for his father and if he did he had he probably would have got imprisoned within a year and probably ratted.

Now he can pretend he's a good John Q. Citizen because he has enough blood money not to be in the mob anymore and/or is too stupid and carries too much baggage.

This Persico cat is the polar opposite of Gotti in the sense that he was unlucky and Gotti was lucky, and that Persico was intelligent and Gotti was an imbecile.

It must eat him up inside that that little wimp Cutolo kid, whose own father was ashamed of him, ultimately, put him under.
the colombos wouldn't have been in half the mess they r in today if they had just kept cutolo as underboss

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
It's fair to say Gotti wouldn't have got made were it not for his father and if he did he had he probably would have got imprisoned within a year and probably ratted.


Ive said this before about Jnr and the Gotti's. Call them what you want but they're stand up.

Jnr did TEN years and faced FOUR trials facing LIFE and never flipped.

I know the 'rules' are you're never meant to 'admit' to CN and because Jnr did he's a 'rat', but facing four life terms, after doing ten years is pretty damn stand up, imo.

And he never once came close to flipping so to suggest he wouldve, is baseless.


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Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Moe_Tilden] #824108
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Junior Gotti is a brainless thug and lowlife piece of shit. He stabbed a kid to death in a petty bar fight. He started a fight with an off duty officer in a bar (backed up by his fellow knuckledraggers of course). There are plenty of stories about him starting fights in dive bars. There are plenty of stories about his infamous stupidity. He tried to assassinate Curtis Sliwa for God's sake!!!! Someone who actually contributes to society and tries to make the streets safer for normal people.

It's fair to say Gotti wouldn't have got made were it not for his father and if he did he had he probably would have got imprisoned within a year and probably ratted.

Now he can pretend he's a good John Q. Citizen because he has enough blood money not to be in the mob anymore and/or is too stupid and carries too much baggage.

This Persico cat is the polar opposite of Gotti in the sense that he was unlucky and Gotti was lucky, and that Persico was intelligent and Gotti was an imbecile.

It must eat him up inside that that little wimp Cutolo kid, whose own father was ashamed of him, ultimately, put him under.

Almost everything you say is true, but you have NO FUCKING IDEA how many bodies Allie Boy has on him. I only mention this because you're a bit of a moralist. And I'm not judging you for that, that's fine with me. You know I'm quick to call these guys out myself on their shortcomings. I just did it with Greg, and I KNEW the man half my life.

But if you're gonna call Junior a murderer (and he might be), you better know that Allie Boy would kill you, then sit down to steak dinner within ten minutes. Like nothing ever happened. He's an intelligent guy (book smart, too). But he's also without conscience. Just so you know wink.

And you never returned my last pm, so I hope all is well on the Emerald Isle smile.


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Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: pizzaboy] #824122
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i didn't know angelo disliked him..but how can you like him..louie r. had his hands filled with him..two different personalities

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: bronx] #824123
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Originally Posted By: bronx
louie r. had his hands filled with him..two different personalities

Oh yeah. You remember Louie's nephew? I loved him, so I won't post his name, even though he's been dead for ten years. The guy with the wig. Anyway, by the end he got stuck in the middle of those two. I hated to see that.


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Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #824135
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for me louie can't be wrong, greg tried to make louie look weak..he was just straight. no angles that i knew of.

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #824136
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I of course never met a NY mobster and guessing that most mobsters aren't guys to be messed with won't directly earn you a degree in psychology, but just judging from pictures alone Prisco looked like he REALLY wasn't anyone to be fucked with.

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: bronx] #824137
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Originally Posted By: bronx
for me louie can't be wrong, greg tried to make louie look weak..he was just straight. no angles that i knew of.

Right on point. A gentleman. A tough guy. True CN.


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Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: pizzaboy] #824173
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Pizza, for a small fee we can show killing joke a couple suits, and a tour of harlem..lol

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: TheKillingJoke] #824174
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Originally Posted By: TheKillingJoke
but just judging from pictures alone Prisco looked like he REALLY wasn't anyone to be fucked with.

His club was right off Westchester Square. It was called the Angelique lol. Bronx remembers.

Anyway, that picture of him in the tracksuit that they used in the casino black book made him look like Manson. He's nothing like that. Now, he's not a man to be fucked with. But he helped a lot of people out of jams in his day. And not all heavyweights are like that. But you're dead on about one thing: He REALLY isn't anyone to be fucked with.

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Pizza, for a small fee we can show killing joke a couple suits, and a tour of harlem..lol

Small fee?

Shows how much things have changed lol.


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Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #824188
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Ofcourse Henry Hill stated that Paul Vario would take his wife out with stolen cards.I guess every mobster is a thief first.It seems the Gambinos had some good talent from the kids of some of these gangsters like Locascio,Gotti Jr,Depalma,Ruggiero Jr.I am sure there are more.I believe I read Castellano had a kid that was not a mobster but mobbed up nonetheless

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #824215
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@Pizza

Prisco's doing life right now, right?

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Thanks for the offer lol

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #824225
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angelo is done..

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: bronx] #824248
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Originally Posted By: bronx
angelo is done..

He's only a three hour drive from either side of Florida. But if you decide to visit, driving through that area is like "Deliverance." Literally. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.


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is he in coleman?

Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: bronx] #824293
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Originally Posted By: bronx
is he in coleman?

Yeah.


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spero died there i believe

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Originally Posted By: bronx
spero died there i believe

I dunno about that. But I know that Danny from Jersey was at Coleman at the same time as Ange. The stupid Feds probably figured they'd catch them talking about something. Because ordinarily, they'd NEVER put two heavies from the Westside in the same joint.

Plus, Ange's whole family (through his first wife) live in Florida full time now. Mostly around where I am. The guy ain't ever getting out, so if they ever transferred him, after his adult children (and ex-wife, too) uprooted their lives to make visiting easier, then I hope the people at the board of prisons all get hemorrhoids like bocce balls.


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Re: Who was dumber Gotti Jr or Allie Boy [Re: Philip_Lombardo] #824298
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think spero died in n.c. the judge in rhode island went out his way to get the old boss baby shacks florida prison cause the weather. he should be hiting the halfway house soon. other then sonny fran hes probably on eof the oldest prisoners. think allie boy in the super max that sucks. his brother should be getting sentence any day now. slow couple weeks for the 5 families. I thought there be mafia takedown part 2 by now. first time there probably 3 bosses on the street on 30yrs. pizza I always type about them articles on prisco on nj.com the ledger. I don't know how to post links but its convo betwwen prisco and his driver how ends up being that westside capos dad. the guy they found in the river in 1988. guess he fell out with manna. last mafia takedown day was 4 years ago out of them 120 guys I bet 90 are out. maybe 100. 2 got life. bth gambinos and I think the westside had like 1 or 2 guys arrested. think 50 colombos went down, there all getting out.

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Originally Posted By: pmac
pizza I always type about them articles on prisco on nj.com the ledger. I don't know how to post links but its convo betwwen prisco and his driver how ends up being that westside capos dad.

Thanks, pmac. Cheech saw that you mentioned it to me back then and he tracked it down and emailed it to me. I appreciate it because Ange is, well, if you ever figure out how to use the pm lol, shoot me one and I'll tell you what was true and what was bullshit.


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I don't think Alphonse Persico was so much dumb as much as he simply miscalculated.

He and his father obviously put their faith in their connection to law enforcement to shield Allie from prosecution. But that faith was misplaced.


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The book about big Paul and the wire in his house he tells tommy warn snake his son was gonna get pinches for drugs. It was a guy in his crew once he found out he killed himself before snake could get him. Think in a phone both. He didn't like drugs. Think Allie was more old school were Jr was a Beastie boy back up dancer anyone read the book. I order alites on amazon for 20$ better be good. Hope he talks about peter gotti

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The guy you are referring to that fell out of favor with Manna was John DiGilio. I dont know or remember if it was Manna he fell out of favor with. I know a younger guy clipped him. DiGilio was loud and overt, that bothered a bunch of guys.

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Yaeh kid wore a wire on prisco. He was johns d girlfriends kid he found out john was his pops from his baptism paper or someshit when he was older. Probably factored in on the wire but I'm sure he did something wrong for the feds to mic him up.

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Its 0 outside and Dietz pastrami sucks its like 97 fat free wasn't worth 9.99 for a poundd

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Pmac Michael gets sentenced next week , He was just up the farm last week...


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy


But if you're gonna call Junior a murderer (and he might be), you better know that Allie Boy would kill you, then sit down to steak dinner within ten minutes. Like nothing ever happened. He's an intelligent guy (book smart, too). But he's also without conscience. Just so you know wink


Yeah PB i said before that Alie boy probably has way more bodies on him than Jr but the differance is all the rats that have come out and said that jr has killed people it was all hoodlum shit and nightclub beefs that got out of hand over nothing and he ended up murdering the young guys he was the type of guy that would beat people up in a club if they accidently bumped into him and would through his fathers name around.Allie boys murder of wild bill was high level family buisness and the other murders he did when he was younger probably consisted of rackets or rules being broken.Jr if it wasnt for his father would of been no differant than those Bath ave guys

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Junior Gotti is a brainless thug and lowlife piece of shit. He stabbed a kid to death in a petty bar fight. He started a fight with an off duty officer in a bar (backed up by his fellow knuckledraggers of course). There are plenty of stories about him starting fights in dive bars. There are plenty of stories about his infamous stupidity. He tried to assassinate Curtis Sliwa for God's sake!!!! Someone who actually contributes to society and tries to make the streets safer for normal people.

It's fair to say Gotti wouldn't have got made were it not for his father and if he did he had he probably would have got imprisoned within a year and probably ratted.

Now he can pretend he's a good John Q. Citizen because he has enough blood money not to be in the mob anymore and/or is too stupid and carries too much baggage.

This Persico cat is the polar opposite of Gotti in the sense that he was unlucky and Gotti was lucky, and that Persico was intelligent and Gotti was an imbecile.

It must eat him up inside that that little wimp Cutolo kid, whose own father was ashamed of him, ultimately, put him under.

Almost everything you say is true, but you have NO FUCKING IDEA how many bodies Allie Boy has on him. I only mention this because you're a bit of a moralist. And I'm not judging you for that, that's fine with me. You know I'm quick to call these guys out myself on their shortcomings. I just did it with Greg, and I KNEW the man half my life.

But if you're gonna call Junior a murderer (and he might be), you better know that Allie Boy would kill you, then sit down to steak dinner within ten minutes. Like nothing ever happened. He's an intelligent guy (book smart, too). But he's also without conscience. Just so you know wink.

And you never returned my last pm, so I hope all is well on the Emerald Isle smile.


Pizza, how many people has allie boy killed? An estimate?

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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Pmac Michael gets sentenced next week , He was just up the farm last week...


lol


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Pmac Michael gets sentenced next week , He was just up the farm last week...


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