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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820489
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A lot of voters here who always vote democrat will continue to vote democrat until things like this happen. Then they will vote a republican in to make a change. They like order if that changes they will make a change. He is a one term mayor.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820497
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im not a new Yorker, but, who you gonna put in there foots.



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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820503
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Maybe the guy that ran against him last time.

I saw there debate the republican was better.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820900
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I think it is a good thing and this is why....

Before when there was a police shooting, one cop was to blame.

Now with this petulant high school maneuver of shunning the Mayor, the NYPD members are revealing their solidarity with questionable police shootings en masse.

Now one cop does the shooting, and 5 thousand petulantly turn their backs on the Mayor showing support for the shooting of unarmed suspects/non-suspects. So this is a good thing and DeBlasio should take names whenever that happens. He needs to actually clean house. He doesn't need an investigation. He can see who is against him and against due process for US Citizens.

This petulant high school behavior on the part of the police also reveals to the public the great breadth and depth of the warped attitude and mindset among the police. Four thousand cops or five thousand cops all turning their back on the Mayor in support of police shootings of unarmed suspects/non-suspects is a wake up call to the public.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820914
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^Disagree completely. These officers aren't against due process nor do they want to go out and shoot unarmed people. They are rightfully angry at a biased liberal pantywaist who hasn't supported them from the start. The only thing separating anarchy from order is the police, and the NYPD have played such an important role in bringing New York back to its former glory.

That you Alfa are attempting to paint them as warped with troubling mindsets is unfair and untrue. These cops, who feel betrayed, will never feel they have full support from the Mayor or the public for a long time because of the negative image they're being painted in. And I guarantee you de Blasio ain't makin it past one term.

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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: rockstar_man45] #820920
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Originally Posted By: rockstar_man45
^Disagree completely. These officers aren't against due process nor do they want to go out and shoot unarmed people. They are rightfully angry at a biased liberal pantywaist who hasn't supported them from the start. The only thing separating anarchy from order is the police, and the NYPD have played such an important role in bringing New York back to its former glory.

That you Alfa are attempting to paint them as warped with troubling mindsets is unfair and untrue. These cops, who feel betrayed, will never feel they have full support from the Mayor or the public for a long time because of the negative image they're being painted in. And I guarantee you de Blasio ain't makin it past one term.


I don't know what DeBlasio said or did to warrant being treated so petulantly. I really don't. I guess I have been on the GangsterBB too much to follow the news updates on the new Mayor of my city. But I really don't see how showing their back-sides to the Mayor in a show of solidarity with killer cops is helping their image. They are doing it to themselves.

What they are doing is uglier than the brawl that broke out between the cops and the firemen after 911.

Ugly.

The cops turning their backs to the new Mayor, for whatever he said or did, I do not know, says one thing for absolute certain...

They (the back turners) feel the shootings are justified. They don't give a damn about due process for thugs.

And if they stop someone, at the door of their home, or on a routine traffic stop, and they have house keys in their hand or are carrying a cell phone, or the car lurches 4 inches, they will shoot them in a nano second and then go home and forget about it and have din din with the family and feel no guilt...all because it was not a human, just a thug, and if a thug makes you nervous, you just eliminate him. Period. He's not worth the risk or the due process of law.

Problem is people are getting shot while not in the commission of any crime, and some are not even thugs.

That's why I say there's not much left to discuss anymore. Everyone knows where everyone else stands.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820962
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Jesus If you really feel that way alfa why dont you just grab a sign and go out there with those wannabe hippster scumbags and chant for more dead cops rolleyes


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: Dellacroce] #820964
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Jesus If you really feel that way alfa why dont you just grab a sign and go out there with those wannabe hippster scumbags and chant for more dead cops rolleyes


I looked into De Blasio's unforgivable sin, the act that made thousands of "righteously angry" NYPD attempt to make him an intolerable pariah....

He had the damned audacity, the unmitigated gall, to voice the mere concern that he was afraid for his own son in the present environment of policing.

OMG How DARE he?

Now that's petty and petulant. Seriously, a flying banner from an airplane saying 'we turn our backs to you'? Seriously? That's sad and pathetic.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820968
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Yes that one comment in the context of what was happening in new york and all over the country made cops feel that the mayors office didnt support the police and that the mayor was trying to fan the anti police flames. And yes all of this is coming when deblasio is in the middle of some heated contract disputes with the nypd unions. Is pat lynch using this tragedy to try to get a leg up in those negotiations? Probably a little, but as they say all is fair in love and war....and union contract disputes. But what it comes down to is that spinless liberal wants those protestors out there and hes made it pretty clear that his heart is with the protestors ,not the cops(and if you think hes not also trying to use the situation to get an advantage over the cops in labor negotiations your nuts).

And as for your comments about cops shooting people on a whim, your pulling that out of your ass.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820984
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This Socialist creep who was born Warren Wilhelm Jr. Was raised in what is known as "The People's Republic of Cambridge, Massaschusetts" . He's a fraud and the idiotic zombie democrats in NYC voted him in. You get what you deserve. The masses are asses indeed.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #820985
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I'm only speaking for myself but every time I have been in New York it has singularly been black people making me feel uncomfortable. Not whites, not asians, not latinos, not police.

It's the same every time.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Maybe there is a reason why black people have problems with the police.

There are plenty of black people who have no problems with the police. There is a good reason for it.

If you are a scumbag, you will get treated like one. If you are an upstanding citizen, you will get treated like one.

Stop expecting preferential f***ing treatment.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #821008
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While Mayor Giuliani said that Mayor DeBlasio should apologize to the police if they feel he didn't have their backs, he also feels that the police have gone too far.

And, sorry, DeBlasio said what is on the mind of many parents of young black men. One of my friends is Haitian and her husband is a doctor. He got pulled over so many times simply because he was a black man driving a Mercedes that he downgraded to a Camry. They have two sons, and she is often frightened for them.

And anyone who professes to think that's not a realistic fear for a parent to have is living in Candy Land and seeing the world through rose-colored glasses.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #821010
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Well I have lived mostly in Ireland since my parents separated so I'm no expert on these things but whenever I have been in NY my most confrontational experiences have been with black people.

Other people probably know better than me but the only person I have any sympathy with is Eric Garner. That was overkill. Brown had what was coming to him.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #821011
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This is the real Heir DeBlasio no one knew the truth when he ran for Mayor except the press and they did not print anything about his past.

 
Was an ardent supporter of Nicaragua's Marxist Sandinista government in the 1980s

Describes himself as an advocate of “democratic socialism”

Was executive director of the New York branch of the pro-socialist New Party

Served as the New York/New Jersey regional director of the Clinton administration's Department of Housing and Urban Development from 1997-99
Was campaign manager for Hillary Clinton's 2000 U.S. Senate bid.
Served on the New York City Council from 2001-09
Was elected as New York City's third Public Advocate in 2009
Was deeply influenced by liberation theology
Was elected mayor of New York City in 2013

Remember this if your going to vote for Hillary.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #821014
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His wife has said she was a lesbian until she met the hunk de blasio. Evidently, he converted her to a herosexual.

So all those doctors that said your born with it are all lying. smile


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: Alfa Romeo] #821021
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Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Jesus If you really feel that way alfa why dont you just grab a sign and go out there with those wannabe hippster scumbags and chant for more dead cops rolleyes


I looked into De Blasio's unforgivable sin, the act that made thousands of "righteously angry" NYPD attempt to make him an intolerable pariah....

He had the damned audacity, the unmitigated gall, to voice the mere concern that he was afraid for his own son in the present environment of policing.

OMG How DARE he?

Now that's petty and petulant. Seriously, a flying banner from an airplane saying 'we turn our backs to you'? Seriously? That's sad and pathetic.



I agree with you alpha, the attitude that the nypd is putting forth is " the cops are always right" is wrong. some things need discussion, turning their back on the mayor because he doesn't give the police blanket ammunity on all police killings, is a slap in the face to the people of nyc, after all the mayor was elected by the people.

im not from nyc but, the police ignoring the elected mayor, could split the city, and that would not be good.

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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: Bennie_The_Ball] #821022
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Originally Posted By: Bennie_The_Ball
This Socialist creep who was born Warren Wilhelm Jr. Was raised in what is known as "The People's Republic of Cambridge, Massaschusetts" . He's a fraud and the idiotic zombie democrats in NYC voted him in. You get what you deserve. The masses are asses indeed.


According to Wiki, de Blasio's mother is real Italian on both sides. His father was German. If he was Jewish, his maternal ancestry would have qualified him as a Jew.

He supposedly speaks Italian. How many full blooded Italians in North America speak Italian in the USA? He is Italian. Like it or not.

Besides, who would blame him for not wanting to be called "Wilhelm"? He is clearly an Italophile just like many of the posters on this site.


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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Jesus If you really feel that way alfa why dont you just grab a sign and go out there with those wannabe hippster scumbags and chant for more dead cops rolleyes


I looked into De Blasio's unforgivable sin, the act that made thousands of "righteously angry" NYPD attempt to make him an intolerable pariah....

He had the damned audacity, the unmitigated gall, to voice the mere concern that he was afraid for his own son in the present environment of policing.

OMG How DARE he?

Now that's petty and petulant. Seriously, a flying banner from an airplane saying 'we turn our backs to you'? Seriously? That's sad and pathetic.



I agree with you alpha, the attitude that the nypd is putting forth is " the cops are always right" is wrong. some things need discussion, turning their back on the mayor because he doesn't give the police blanket ammunity on all police killings, is a slap in the face to the people of nyc, after all the mayor was elected by the people.

im not from nyc but, the police ignoring the elected mayor, could split the city, and that would not be good.


Many on the police force would really like to boycott the democratically elected Mayor. Shut him down anyway they can, just because he expressed concern over his own son. But New York City does not belong to them. And de Blasio was not elected by the police. He was elected by a majority of the people of New York City.

The Mayor, as the representative of the majority that elected him has the right to ask questions about concerns he might have. If someone feels that being questioned and/or investigated is beneath them, then the meaning of what it means to belong to an "all men are created equal" democracy is lost to them. They are not above questioning. And they must answer.


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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: ItalianForever] #821031
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alpha it certainly seems as though the nypd are now ruling the city. and the democratic process [ the popular vote} will go down in flames if the cops have their way.

I liked your last post , I thought it was very good.



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Re: Cops Turn Back On Deblasio [Re: Alfa Romeo] #821036
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Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo
Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Jesus If you really feel that way alfa why dont you just grab a sign and go out there with those wannabe hippster scumbags and chant for more dead cops rolleyes


I looked into De Blasio's unforgivable sin, the act that made thousands of "righteously angry" NYPD attempt to make him an intolerable pariah....

He had the damned audacity, the unmitigated gall, to voice the mere concern that he was afraid for his own son in the present environment of policing.

OMG How DARE he?

Now that's petty and petulant. Seriously, a flying banner from an airplane saying 'we turn our backs to you'? Seriously? That's sad and pathetic.



I agree with you alpha, the attitude that the nypd is putting forth is " the cops are always right" is wrong. some things need discussion, turning their back on the mayor because he doesn't give the police blanket ammunity on all police killings, is a slap in the face to the people of nyc, after all the mayor was elected by the people.

im not from nyc but, the police ignoring the elected mayor, could split the city, and that would not be good.


Many on the police force would really like to boycott the democratically elected Mayor. Shut him down anyway they can, just because he expressed concern over his own son. But New York City does not belong to them. And de Blasio was not elected by the police. He was elected by a majority of the people of New York City.

The Mayor, as the representative of the majority that elected him has the right to ask questions about concerns he might have. If someone feels that being questioned and/or investigated is beneath them, then the meaning of what it means to belong to an "all men are created equal" democracy is lost to them. They are not above questioning. And they must answer.


I'm with Guiliani, turning their backs to the Mayor won't solve anything but for Christ's sake alpha the police have a legitimate beef just as the protestors have legitimate concerns.

Don't make this some moral conundrum. And don't pull shit out of your ass either. Mayor De Blasio encouraged the atmosphere that allowed these cops to be killed. That's on him. It would be one thing if De Blasio said he'd have concerns if his son went to Alabama and had a run in with the police. But his own NYPD? That's a problem. This is the same force that has done a lot of good for the city of New York and you cannot continually slap it in the face and not expect consequences.

No cops are not above the law. They make mistakes all the time because we are human. But you cannot take one incident on Staten Island and turn it into "the police are going out and shooting innocent people on a constant basis" which is what you're doing. Like Dellacroce said, if you feel that strongly about it, go down with those hipster granola protestors. I'm sure they'd love to have you

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