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Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo #814756
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Just how powerful was he? Also, does anyone have any information on Joseph Biancone (member of the Boiardo crew)

Thanks

Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814759
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It is said that those Genovese Capos like Boiardo and DeCarlo had more clout then even DeCavalcante himself.

The Jersey Mob really got shafted a lot imo.
They let NY infiltrate their city at will and let nearly ever other family in the region dominate Atlantic City.

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Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: RedBullets] #814762
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Originally Posted By: RedBullets
It is said that those Genovese Capos like Boiardo and DeCarlo had more clout then even DeCavalcante himself.

The Jersey Mob really got shafted a lot imo.
They let NY infiltrate their city at will and let nearly ever other family in the region dominate Atlantic City.


The only problem with that logic, is that all of nj was never the decalvecantes territory, NY has been here since the beginning.


"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."

-Jordan Belfort
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814769
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I have the understanding that [ RICHIE THE BOOT} was very powerful. I saw a picture of him with joe DiMaggio they were having dinner together, I believe it was in the thirties.

I searched all over the internet I can't find that picture again. I read somewhere that he had a crematorium in one of his barns. his house has been featured on this site, and it's a mansion.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814773
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Binnie go to the facebook page: In the Godfather Garden and you will find it. The pic is with Joe, Richie the Boot and others. There are a few in there. Good Luck

Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814775
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thank you beanshooter, I knew I saw it. I could not find it again, and was accused of making it up.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814776
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Did you see the others?

Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814781
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is the book on Ritchie anygood. there were a lot of Genovese capos there in the 80tys I read boby manna was in control of al of them 4 or 5 was boots a capo in the 80tys. think there was andy gerado gatto the greek and probably more. but think people forget the lcn rules all made guys are equal. sam the plumber had 30 guys in the 60tys and sat with Gambino who had 300. just reas somewhere andy gerado was a frequent vistor to the triangle he the capo from that bullshit hbo special with the fake cop he got like 2 on gambling chargesand the fake cop acted like hes Donnie brasco.

Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: Beanshooter] #814784
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Did you see the others?


no. im not on facebook, could you post the photo.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814785
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Binnie, I don't know how. Maybe someone who is more computer savy than me can do a favor. In the neamtine check out this site on Richie....

http://godfathergarden.com/

Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814787
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The facebook post is September 19th and this is what it has written:

"Saving the 56 game hitting streak" Joe DiMaggio, Richie the Boot, (standing) Jerry Spatola and Tony Boy. Rumor had it that the Boot had Funeral Director, Jerry Spatola and Jimmy “Peanuts” Ceres assist in the1941 recovery of “Joltin” Joe DiMaggio’s Stolen Bat during his 56 game hitting streak.
As the story goes in the late 1930’s, a Newark Funeral Director, Jerry Spatola, introduced Joe DiMaggio to Richie the Boot at his Vittorio Castle restaurant and they remained lifelong friends. “And the way Richie treated Joe, it just confirmed for everybody who saw, the worth, the stature, of these two giants: Joltin’ Joe and Richie the Boot. Nothing was too good. Whatever Joe wanted, Richie wanted to have offered it yesterday. More often, it was something Richie thought without Joe asking one word. That car Joe got at the dinner (sure Richie helped with that)-he was gonna need someone to drive him, wasn’t he? So how about Peanuts?” Peanuts was Jimmy Ceres an associate of the Boot’s. Joe DiMaggio, The Hero’s Life by Richard Ben Cramer, p.143.
“By the time the Yankees took the field on an unsparingly steamy Sunday afternoon of June 29 in Washington, they rumbled head-long into an extraordinary baseball extravaganza, 31,008 people jamming the place, filling every aisle, every promenade, every corridor, every concourse, some of them actually spilling onto the field, blocking DiMaggio from the batting cage.
It was the bottom of the first of the nightcap. Henrich, hitting in the three-hole, was about to dig into the batter's box when he heard a screeching voice.
"TOMMY!"
It was DiMaggio.
"You got my ball bat!"
In later years, players would call their favorite bats "gamers." In the'40s, they were "ball bats." Now, he was missing his ball bat, the one he'd named "Betsy Ann," and he was frantic.
"Jeez, Tommy," DiMaggio said. "Someone stole my ball bat."
It had happened between games, and it had happened despite the fact that one of the batboys had been ordered to guard the Yankee bat rack. DiMaggio grabbed another, smoked a scorching line drive off Senators pitcher Sid Hudson, but it soared right into rightfielder Buddy Lewis' glove. "If that had been my ball bat," DiMaggio muttered, "that would've dropped in. All of that pent-up strain found a welcome release on the train back to New York's Penn Station. DiMaggio ordered bottles of beer all around for his teammates in the club car, and he was in a grand mood -- until someone brought up his dear departed Betsy Ann.
"Of course the guy had to pick out the best one," he muttered, shaking his head. "I had three of my bats on the ground in front of the dugout but he got the one I wouldn't take money for. Most of my models are 36 inches long and weigh 36 ounces, but I had sandpapered the handle of this one to thin it just a trifle. That bat was just right for me. I liked the feel of it. I hate to lose it."
He sighed. Lit a cigarette. Shook his head again. Then ordered another round of beers for the boys. What the hell. Life was still pretty good if you happened to be Joe DiMaggio in the final hours of June 1941, even with Betsy Ann off on her own.
She returned to him a week later, an unknowing courier delivering a plain brown package to the Yankee clubhouse, and the team celebrated as if they'd just won the pennant, such was the delight when DiMaggio finally gripped Betsy Ann firmly for the first time in nearly a week, smiling as he felt the familiar handle.
She hadn't made her way home easily. One of DiMaggio's running mates, a small-time Jersey rackets guy named Jimmy "Peanuts" Ceres who spent a lot of his down time driving DiMaggio's car and running his errands, had spent five full days hunting for the bat once it turned out that the guy who'd taken it in Washington didn't only happen to run a little bit in Newark, Peanuts' home turf, but also had the great misfortune of bragging a little too loudly about his acquisition.
The streets of Newark had ears, and most of those ears funneled back to Peanuts, and one day he and another friend, a funeral director named Jerry Spatola, paid the chatty grifter a visit. Now, this appointment went down one of three ways, depending on whose account you read and how gullible you happened to be.
The thief either a) had an attack of conscience after reading how badly Joe missed Betsy Ann, and handed the club back with sincere apologies; b) negotiated with Ceres and Spatola and accepted fair recompense for his booty; c) was "convinced" that it would be best for everyone involved if he just gave the bat back so everyone could forget the whole thing." New York Post, “How DiMaggio’s Pal Tracked Down the Stick that Made the Streak”, 6/3/07 by Mike Viccaro, “1941: The Greatest Year in Sports by Mike Vaccaro, Doubleday.

Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: Binnie_Coll] #814788
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
I saw a picture of him with joe DiMaggio they were having dinner together, I believe it was in the thirties.



"Jersey...It's where my story begins."
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814789
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Thanks NJ

Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: Beanshooter] #814790
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[quote=Beanshooter]Binnie, I don't know how. Maybe someone who is more computer savy than me can do a favor. In the neamtine check out this site on Richie....

http://godfathergarden.com/

very good read, im going to get the book.

thank you bean.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814815
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Is the book worth reading? I have it but haven't started yet. I admit I know very little about this guy but seems like an interesting read.
I've read most mainstream books about different mafiosi. Carlo's books too, (except the Iceman, not worth it) they're crap but I like his storytelling a little. I found the original Donnie Brasco and Underboss to be more engaging. How does this compare?


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: Malandrino] #814824
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Originally Posted By: Malandrino
Is the book worth reading?


I thought it was a good book, well worth reading imo.


"Jersey...It's where my story begins."
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814834
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N.J. thanks for the pic.
great story about the bat, bean, thanks.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814835
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The Boiardo book was a bore, to me at least. It's decent, but I wouldn't recommend buying it, I'd see if your library has it or something.

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Aww really? I was hoping it would be a little engaging. I read about 70-80 pages of the new Scarpa book Deal with the Devil and I found it to be too technical and specific and stopped reading. I already got it so I guess I'll read the first 30-50 pages and decide then.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: Dellacroce] #814903
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: RedBullets
It is said that those Genovese Capos like Boiardo and DeCarlo had more clout then even DeCavalcante himself.

The Jersey Mob really got shafted a lot imo.
They let NY infiltrate their city at will and let nearly ever other family in the region dominate Atlantic City.


The only problem with that logic, is that all of nj was never the decalvecantes territory, NY has been here since the beginning.


For what it's worth, (second hand information here)I believe most DeCavalcante men were originally from the Peterstown section of Elizabeth. Newark and other Essex County towns was New York or Philadelphia familiy guys. Hudson County was supposedly Genovese or Bonanno people.
Atlantic City is in South Jersey about 110 miles from the DeCavs neighborhood in Elizabeth. About 60 miles from Philadelphia.

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Re: Genovese Crew NJ - Richard Boiardo [Re: ovation32] #814928
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How about Joseph Biancone? Does anyone have any info on him?


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