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California Mafia business #810983
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Hello there, I want to know more about Cali LCN. What kinda business they do? Are they involved in more than narcotics and bets? What do you know about his members? Are they paying to any boss? (I think yes but I don't know if he's in California or Chicago). You guys know some book about 21th Cali Mafia?

I know they're weak and I know some shit about Tommy Gambino, Lenny Montana, Mike Sposito, Paulo Rossi but I want to know more details about his business and organization. I can't understand if they're a fucking crime family or not.

I'll appreciate all the support about Cali Mafia.

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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811091
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There's no formally structured, viable Mafia family left in California. San Francisco and San Jose are long gone. There's maybe 8 or 10 members left total and half of them don't even live in California anymore. In fact, you could probably count on two hands the number of made guys (from all families) that live in California.

Members:
1. Louis "Little Louie" Caruso - owns Golden Air, Inc. and Caruso Mechanical Services in Phoenix, AZ
2. Michael "Porno Mike" Esposito - owns Gentleman's Video (adult film company) in Los Angeles, CA
3. Thomaso "Tommy" Gambino/43 - runs Royal Entertainment, Inc
4. Russell "Rusy" Massetta/61 - was made in Los Angeles, now lives in Cleveland, married to Pete Milano's sister
5. Leonardo "Limping Lenny" Montana - bookmaker, owns Enzo's Pizzeria in Los Angeles, CA
6. Robert "Fat Bobby" Paduano/70 - involved in 1991 drug case, loanshark
7. John "Johnny V" Vaccaro/73 - lives in Las Vegas, in Nevada "Black Book," owns Four Square Construction Co
8. Rocco "Rocky Bigfoot" Zangari/82 - moved back to Buffalo, inactive

Possible Members:
Paulo "Paulie Tattoos" Rossi - a bookmaker, owned a tattoo shop
Michael "Sports Bar Mike" Russo - bookmaker, works with LA family but not a part of according to Kenji
James Testa - was made though possibly not in Los Angeles family

Members Who Have Died Since 2000:
Charles "Bobby Milano" Caci (2006)
Vincent "Jimmy" Caci (2011)
Steve "The Whale" Cino (2013)
Louis Tom Dragna (2012)
Luigi "Louie" Gelfuso (2001)
Carmen "Flipper" Milano (2006)
Peter "Shakes" Milano (2012)
Michael "Rizzi" Rizzitello (2006)


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811099
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Not much info coming out about the LA family. Most likely because there isn't much to report. They are all but inactive right now.


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811103
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I got it. So, they aren't involved in labor unions and construction, right?

Have they a boss, a hierarchy or something? All of them are soldiers or someone is captain, for example? Are they kicking interest to bosses in Chicago or somewhere?

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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811104
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Old report from '78...Short bios on some members (page 35)

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/79411NCJRS.pdf


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811106
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I'm not interested in old facts, I'm looking for information about this guys in the 21th.

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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811107
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I didn't post it just for your taste! SMH


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811108
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I know, I was doing a clarification.

Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811112
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Jerry Brown and his unions who needs CN

Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811114
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Eugene you started the same exact thread a coupla months ago and this one is going the same way as the other one…nowhere-

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...0239#Post790239


and its because theres nothing left to talk about, maybe a handful of guys making book. the mafia on the west coast is all but dead. Operation thin crust of the late 1990's pretty much put an end to any significant activity.


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Alfanosgirl] #811117
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Originally Posted By: Alfanosgirl
Jerry Brown and his unions who needs CN


He's got the illegal voting bloc LOL!

Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811120
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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811130
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California members left. Not all of them live in the state anymore. All if not, then most of them are now legit.

Los Angeles Members.
Louis Caruso/56
Robert D'Agostino/91 May have passed away.
John DeMattia/76
Michael Esposito/66
Anthony Fiato/65 Talked. His brother Graig was only an associate.
Thomas Gambino/43
Russell Massetti/61
Steven Mauriello/63
Leonardo Montana/80
Robert Paduano/72
Dominic Raffone/70
Antonio Sciortino/85 Made in S.F. transferred to L.A. in the early 1990's. May have retired when he moved.
John Vaccaro/74
Rocco Zangari/82

San Jose Members
Carlo America/77
Larry Bracco/67 One of the last members to be made.
Donato Ditri/82
Paolo Gunetta/88
Salvatore Marino/66
Thomas Novello/63 One of the last members to be made.

San Francisco Members
Stefano Meranghi/77 Talked, deported.
Antonio Sciortino/85 Transferred to L.A. in early 1990's.
Carmine Termini/96. May have passed away. Last member to be made in the family. James Lanza said he would only make Carmine when Jimmy lived to be 100 years old. Well Carmine was made in 03' or 04'.

There are about a dozen more or so made members but they belong to other families across the states, Italy, and Sicily.

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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Dellacroce] #811134
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Eugene you started the same exact thread a coupla months ago and this one is going the same way as the other one…nowhere-

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...0239#Post790239


and its because theres nothing left to talk about, maybe a handful of guys making book. the mafia on the west coast is all but dead. Operation thin crust of the late 1990's pretty much put an end to any significant activity.

Ditto.


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811153
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Eugene, check the shout box.



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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811229
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Originally Posted By: Eugene_Dragna
I got it. So, they aren't involved in labor unions and construction, right?

Have they a boss, a hierarchy or something? All of them are soldiers or someone is captain, for example? Are they kicking interest to bosses in Chicago or somewhere?


you were just told that there is NO structured organization left...

and here you go asking if they still have crews, if they kick up...

I know that weed is quite good over there, but go easy with it for heaven's sake.

Re: California Mafia business [Re: LuanKuci] #811247
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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
Originally Posted By: Eugene_Dragna
I got it. So, they aren't involved in labor unions and construction, right?

Have they a boss, a hierarchy or something? All of them are soldiers or someone is captain, for example? Are they kicking interest to bosses in Chicago or somewhere?


you were just told that there is NO structured organization left...

and here you go asking if they still have crews, if they kick up...

I know that weed is quite good over there, but go easy with it for heaven's sake.

He opened the same thread a few months ago and didn't like the answers that he received, so he started another one hoping for a different reaction.

@ Eugene_Dragna: The California LCN is done. You can open all the threads you want, you're not going to get a different answer. If you're that hell bent on joining a criminal organization in California, I suggest you learn how to speak Spanish.


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: pizzaboy] #811375
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yes, but Thomas Gambino, the last reputed head of the LA mob, is only 43 years old ---> so you have to wonder what he is up to

that is, supposing that the LA family has disintegrated and no longer "exists," what has happened to all the young members and associates? are they working with other US families or with international Italian groups or with the Mexicans?

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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811433
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There are no young members or associates. Attrition and the birth of street gangs killed off any LA Family. While Gambino may only be 43, he's probably gone legit, or doesn't live in LA anymore. Who's making guys and whos calling the shots, like really? Who would they be under? They're too small to survive on their own snd according to law enforcement, they aren't on the books of any other family

Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811454
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Tommy (Rosario's son) lives in LA, he does legitimate work.


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811541
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The best business in CA to be in is the Medical Marijuana business. Whether it's making pot brownies or keeping shop it's too good to pass up. The DEA has been backing off in OC, There haven't been many busts lately.

Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811546
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the mafia has to still be conducting business in CA. I think it's unrealistic to assume there's no mob activity in the biggest, wealthiest state in the nation. what about this case from just last year:

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/23/local/la-me-ln-drug-trafficking-mafia-federal-20130523

Drug trafficker for the mob kept cash, cocaine in Beverly Hills

May 23, 2013|By Joseph Serna

A drug trafficker working for organized crime in New York kept millions of dollars and dozens of kilograms of cocaine in his homes in Beverly Hills, prosecutors said Thursday.

Alessandro Taloni pleaded guilty in a Brooklyn, N.Y., federal court Thursday morning to trafficking cocaine for the Rizzuto crime family of the Italian mafia. Taloni has dual Canadian and Italian citizenship and two homes in Beverly Hills, federal prosecutors said.

In a sweeping indictment returned in April, prosecutors accused Taloni and four other men of operating an elaborate cocaine, marijuana and ecstasy trafficking operation for the last 10 years involving the Rizutto and Bonanno crime families, the Hells Angels, the Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico and Native Americans from the Akwesasne Mohawk reservation.

Prosecutors say the men would use the Hells Angels and people from the reservation near the border to smuggle in ecstasy and hydroponic marijuana from Canada into the U.S. to sell.

Taloni flew from Montreal to Los Angeles, where he collected the money from the drug sales then used it to buy cocaine from the Sinaloa cartel bringing it in from Mexico, prosecutors said. The cocaine was then sent to Canada, where it was sold.

As part of the operation, Taloni kept two homes in Beverly Hills. One was his residence, the other was a stash house. Authorities say they found $1 million and 49 kilograms of cocaine in Taloni’s homes and car during a search.

“Taloni was a major narcotics distributor who used his connections to powerful international organized crime groups to obtain and distribute tens of millions of dollars worth of deadly narcotics,” said Eastern New York U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch in a statement.

Additional searches of other Los Angeles locations linked to the network turned up $1.6 million and 34 more kilos of cocaine. authorities.

Taloni could face 10 years to life in prison.

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Re: California Mafia business [Re: Eugene_Dragna] #811547
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tommy's brother tony is also made, very young..

Re: California Mafia business [Re: bronx] #811548
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Originally Posted By: bronx
tommy's brother tony is also made, very young..


Are you talking about Tommy in LA's brother?


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Re: California Mafia business [Re: bronx] #811550
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Taloni's with the Rizzutos. Has been forever. I assumed this thread was about the old L.A. family, which is pretty much done.

The Canadians move a lot of dope in the states with the cartels and biker gangs. But as far as the LCN actually having an outpost in California and having a viable family there? Not so much.


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yes tommy's brother..

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Taloni's with the Rizzutos. Has been forever. I assumed this thread was about the old L.A. family, which is pretty much done.

The Canadians move a lot of dope in the states with the cartels and biker gangs. But as far as the LCN actually having an outpost in California and having a viable family there? Not so much.


yeah,good point. well said. I'm sure it's different now, compared to the days when the traditional LA family was running things. I bet outside families are in LA. when Taloni was busted someone posted it on this board. I find these alliances between different types of organized crime groups really interesting.

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Re: California Mafia business [Re: bronx] #811557
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Originally Posted By: bronx
yes tommy's brother..


Ok, I figured. Sometimes if you would use the quote button it would make things easier, but I digress.


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yes , i forget..thanks

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Originally Posted By: bronx
yes tommy's brother..
Made with who? I doubt the Gambino's, and Shakes Milano has been out of the picture for long while

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