Did Frankie Rio or Tony Accardo shield Capone during the lunchtime hit by Hymie Weiss ? I always read that it was Accardo. But this new book about Jack mcgurn says it was Frank Rio. Or is this all a tall tale?

It really happened, but it's not certain who did the shielding. It was either Accardo or Rio. Traditionally it was said to have been Rio, but Roemer claimed that he overheard a conversation that pointed to Accardo. I have Accardo's FBI file and haven't found the conversation he referred to, although not all of the transcripts are in the file. So for now all we know is that it was either one or the other.

Faithful is in a paper file or say pdf file? Would love to see it if we could send it over the net.

At the time Capone had three main bodyguards.First one was Phil D'andrea,who was a constant companion of Al and was the oldest of the rest of the two bodyguards.Second was Frankie Rio, who besides being a bodyguard, he was also a hitman.And the third youngest one was Jack McGurn who was also considered as a hitman.So i highly doubt that at the time young Accardo was sitting at the same table with Capone.Tony mostly worked as a chauffeur,lookout guy and as an enforcer

Accardo's FBI file is actually a large set of pdf files or paper documents that have to be ordered from the FBI. The pdf files run into hundreds of pages. A lot of pages, however, are duplicated at the Mary Ferrell site. Not only that, the files that the FBI sends are more redacted than what's on the Mary Ferrell site. So for that reason it would be better to go to her site and look up the Accardo ELSUR files.

Gotcha, will do!!

I believe around 25% of what Roemer wrote in his books....The one i believe most was that Mad Sam pissed in his coffee !! lol

When Roemer sticks to the facts he's accurate, when he gives opinion, not so much. Still, he deserves more than 25%. The new book by Vincent Inserra corroborates a lot of what he wrote. I suggest everyone get a copy of Inserra's new book.

I remember that one! lol, lol that's one for the books.

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I need to order the book by Inserra. Say it's pretty good? I read sections of the book on Amazon.

I agree about Roemer. He tends to "promote" a little too much, but as you said, much of his information has been supported by other agents. He deserves a lot more than 25 percent.

I've read all the Mary Ferrel info and have saved files. I did not order the FBI files for the reason you mentioned. Some folks with whom I talked (in Chicago) said they were heavily redacted.

Yeah get the book its good. Only Negative thing he said about Roamer is his trust with Richard Cain and his show down with Sam Giancana . I think must of what Roamer says is True But we need the FBI Files what Prove Accardo being on the st Valentine Massacre hit and when he Saved Al Capone . If True it must be on the FBI Files I wonder who Accardo was telling or saying it to They must be High up in the Outfit For him to Open up like that to Talk About Hits Etc

In the movie 'Capone' - It was Frank Nitti... It's definately bullshit but I'm thinking it was Accardo, Toodoped might not think it, but it is highly possible. That one faithful evening Accardo was bringing Al his coffee two seconds before the gunfire.

I have his FBI files (the set of files that the FBI releases as a single subject file) and neither is in there. The FBI has a crazy indexing system and subjects (people who are subjects of investigation) are mixed in different subject files. The point is, if you order a file it's not going to be complete. I also have Murray Humphreys's files and it's not in there either (I think Roemer said he heard this in a conversation between them). I didn't see this up on Mary Ferrell either. The FBI told me they can't find the transcripts of these specific conversations.

Yeah i think Roamer must of heard it then why lie and if Tony Accardo was talkiing to murray humphreys About it being And do That Etc Etc it must be True. yeah Roamer Said he heard Tony say he was there on The ST Valentine Hit And The Franky Yale hit Plus The tony Malone in 1935 Hit on that Tony use A Shotgun and Gus Alex was his hitman partner on that hit with Gus Alex using A handgun The Way it looks Gus Alex was Tony Accardo hitman partner some times Back in the 1930s I got that info in roamer books one of the 3 Non fiction book he wrote so check it out any one who aint seen it or never heard of this info before. I do think roamer was telling the truth About what he Heard on them Bugs

Ricky, that is one long sentence! LOL

Thanks i do ave my moments

I read somewhere that Capone had between 7-9 bodyguards when he was out and about at that period after having already survived several assassination attempts . So who's to say that it wasn't accardo who saved him that day I'd wager he was a part of Al's bodyguard retinue .

Yeah i Agree with you Tony Accardo could be one of many who jump on Al or lay on top of him until the shooting stop. Al Had Loads of bodyguards And Tony Accardo was one of The main ones or After that Assassination Attempts he was seen with Al all the time so maybe he become the main one cause he save Al life .I am sure Al Had his favs Bodyguards and no doubt Tony Accardo was one of them. Tony Accardo got a tattoo on his trigger hand of a bird when he went on a trip with Al i wonder what it meant the Tattoo some sort of gang sign

@rickydelta ,yeah man I heard about the tattoo I'm sure like a lot of people he really regretted it !

@ OC Yeah i bet he did lol .I wonder what the meaning was back then in the 1920s Now a days a tattoo on the Hand is a Gang Sign Meaning the Person a Hitman Maybe that what it Meant back Then As he Sure was a Hitman

Frankie Rio, Accardo did not really come around Capone till later on when McGurn put in a good word and praise about him. It has been said that D'Andrea and Rio both took a liking to Accardo when he became another one of Capones bodyguards.

I'm betting it was Frank Rio. Rio sometimes went by Frank Cline. Accardo wasn't mentioned that much, like Giacomo stated. Everything I've read indicates it was Rio.

Roemer's book says it was Accardo but yeah I think he embellishes things in it. Deadly Valentines the biography of Jack McGurn (great book by the way) says it was Rio. Which is more likely. Accardo wasn't as close to Capone at that point was he?

That's my thinking. Accardo was just 20 and had not moved that "high" up the ladder. Anything is possible with these guys, but (IMO) everything points to Rio.